stuart miller, executive chairman of lennar. melissa, back to you. >> diana, thank you, and our thanks to stuart. so, what do we make of this trade here? couple hundred basis points is a long way from where we are right now. >> it's been a phenomenal trade. it's one i've not been in. i've been of the view, despite the unbelievable demand factors that i just felt rates were an impediment. in lennar, they are going pace over price. they've sacrificed margins, they've been trying to ompete. they've been moving, i would say lower in their asps, and that's been proven to work. whether that really translates into a higher multiple, what you're starting to see are some eps cuts, even though the numbers were solid. 60% move since the october pivot. i think i'm out still. >> it's interesting. we talked about the retailers before, so, let's just quickly talk about home builders. toll brothers, which reported a couple weeks ago, their average selling price is a tad north of a million dollars, going up. le lennar, we heard -- >> tale of two