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let's bring in our next guest, john berman, stuart stevens and nara haq. of course i'm joking a little bit about the idea. first of all, if he is sitting across from you, he had a je ne sais quoi. >> is that french for neck? i'm talking about jake. >> the rock was huge there. i was thinking about it. >> was it intimidating for you? >> it was exciting more than intimidating. >> because i get the excitement part of it. >> i think this whole segment went left. >> right, depending where he runs. >> he would be the first professional wrestler. >> no. >> as a candidate. jesse ventura. wwe, and ran for office. he won't be the first action hero in office, arnold schwarzenegger did that. see it's sort of like there is a well trodden path down this road if he wants to go that way. so it's not a can. i think when celebrity candidates can, it's should. >> i knew you were going say that. we have a graphic of, you know, our various dalliances with celebrities who have successfully made the transition into politics. and what you'll see is that they're all -- well, this i

our next guest john berman, stuart stevens, and mayor hut. of course i'm joking a little bit about the idea, but let's say if he's sitting across from you, he had as jenna said quote. i don't speak >> french is that french for neck? >> he has an enormous neck, i'm talking about jake. the rock was huge there. >> is that intimidating for you? >> it was exciting more than intimidating. i >> get the excitement part of it. >> what i could be one day if -- he would be the first professional wrestler as a candidate >> now! >> jess event truer, he would be the first action hero in office, arnold schwarzenegger did that. there is a well trodden path down this road if he wants to go that way. so i think with celebrity candidates the question is should they? >> we have a graphic of our various islands with celebrities who have successfully made the transition into politics, and what you will see is that they are all, well this is then dressed as politicians. what i wanted to see is them in their characters. many of these guys are these kind of superhero

joining me is charles coleman, civil rights attorney and msnbc legal analyst, and stuart stevens, senior adviser of the lincoln project. stuart, i want to be with you. i have been aware of politics my adult life, but ever since i have worked in campaigns, it was always republicans who voted absentee. it's how in 2004 it kind of looked good for john kerry when i was working down there in florida for an outside group, watching this election come in. the early vote was strong for kerry, because black voters, young voters, people who have to work every day and can't necessarily hang out on election day, they voted strongly for kerry, and then you had the election day vote where really republicans usually have to catch up and see if they can overwhelm the number of early votes that democrats have put in place, and then the absentee votes almost always meant that if those came in and it was close, they were going to win. what do you make of what looks like evidence now that trump deliberately turned that table over, deliberately turned his voters against this form of voting so that he could cl

let's bring in democratic poster and nbc political analyst vernon on monday, and stuart stevens, a veteran mid-romney and bush presidential campaigns. he's not with the lincoln project and he is the author of it is all a lie, how the republican party became donald trump. stuart, some despite the scandal surrounding walker, this race is close. why? >> it's close structurally because georgia really is a blue state now. did this is extraordinary, what's happened here, in the republican party. there was an old saying in the soviet union that was attributed to yeltsin that goes, they know we know that they're lying, but they keep lying, and we keep pretending to believe it. that sums up the state here with the republican party and particularly with walker. everybody knows he's lying. they're pretending that they that they know he is not lying. they know he's lying. it's just, look, this guy is going to lose this race. and the question is, what else is the republican party in georgia going to lose with him? and why is it that no other statewide elected official in georgia or other republican off

and then we're sorry that stuart stevens, who was originally scheduled to be here he has lots of mississippi ties from here started with thad in political campaign in the in the seventies kind of high watermark politically working mitt romney in 2012 as his top campaign adviser his most recent book and we certainly regret that he can't be here due to covid but it's most recent book it was all i have a republican party became donald trump and he offered that in 2020. we found out about thursday night. and just like spectacular stroke of fate steve hayes was here and that's like looking on your bench and like, oh roger clemens is ready to start for us. so we have we have a great great honor of having steve join us. he is known in meals, media circles as a founder of the dispatch. work has appeared all over the place. washington salon, new york post, been all over tv, seen mclaughlin group, fox. we might talk a little about that later. msnbc's cnbc, c-span. he's worked at the athens editor national journal, editor in chief of the standard, and he also authored a book which we will talk about a

joining me now, stuart stevens, senior adviser to the lincoln project and author of it was all a lie,y became donald trump. and tara setmayer, former republican congressional communications director and senior adviser to the lincoln project. stuart, i'm starting with you. because the washington post piece frames mccarthy as this political animal with a small grip on his party. but does he really? what do you think of his chances of becoming speaker if the republicans retake the house? >> i kind of like your chances better, jonathan. i don't think -- you don't have to be a member of the house to be speaker, if by the way. it becomes -- listen, i think this is a fantasy. i think what is playing out here is something that has played out throughout this trump era, where establishment republicans who know better are trying to control this radical element that they have now empowered, and they think they can control. they think they can ride the tiger. it won't work. when mccarthy announced this new program they were going to do, or platform, who was right over his left shoulder? marjorie -

but yesterday, the white house of stuart that no us soldier will step foods that grade based university professor steven guy h said natal clearly wants escalation. and if they can use one mania as a platform for its troops, i think that the remaining of space there is a true hero and it should be sure to leave of his country. ah, he knows what such a conflict would mean for romania and that is why he's sacrificed with his career. why on earth would romanians were orthodox christians of the 2nd largest north was christian nation. russian orthodox church be involved in a conflict or with a with, with the, with the russians. mean that is against romanians ha, the interest of romanian people. but if it falls into the plans of flora, i'm afraid a conventional if not even god forbid nuclear a war world war 3. and, you know, we are moving closer to such a escalation. we should remember to statements that was said almost 20 years ago by george w bush, when he called, i'm paraphrasing that romania is a spear of washington or of, of america towards the east. so, ah, what he said in honor words is that in the even