i had mark stucky going into space. i had virgin galactic flying is test pilot interest 620 in some ways was a blessing in disguise because it gave realistically and i'm no longer fighting for access and in some ways it was the best thing that could have happened i was really thrown. >> access for a writer is a double edge sword. you develop relationships and you have to, you end up liking people but to be able to step back and look at it with esharper eyes is in a way i think it's probably good you get addicted to access as well . access begets more access so i didn't think about that. it did enable you to step back. here's a question, how did writing this book affect your own life? you made 14 or 15 trips to mohave and your relationship with the books character and thepeople in your own spirit . were there some people talking to you, some people not and how did stucky feel? you put him out there. >> i think he feels that -- because i him the course of writing that i felt like our relationship was different. the tradit