. >> i agree with you commissioner studley and there are lobbyist and there are lobbyists and the cartoon is of someone evil. but as you say, there are many public interest organizations that are lobbying for the issues that really >> at the federal level and the supreme court level and the state level, a lot of these, i think that there is a lot of conflict for, you know, laws that cross purposes. so, we have to keep that in mind. what i think that i will do with this item is that very soon that your proposal is going to be referred to us, for the comment and recommendation and i think that we can build a discussion on these issues into what is there and if we determine that it does not go far enough, we can pass that and continue to work on reforms of the commissioners want to say. and we will continue on that and we will see what we think needs to be either added to or altered in that proposal that will avoid some of these concerns. >> and as part of that, i think that it would be helpful to know that there are only 86 lobbyists and can we have a memo that sort of describes what each o

. >> i have two comments, one, going to the commissioner studley, question, i think that the problem of going outside of this memo was other areas, and is because they are not listed on the agenda, we may, may have to put them down for a subsequent meeting. >> yeah. >> and for example, i do have something that the end one, we talk about the others, and the other possible things and i do have an item that i do want to add to bring up. but my original question was, addressed to the city attorney. is it right that what mr. bush said, that if there is a contribution made to a candidate when it becomes apparent that it was an improper contribution, either it was too much or it was solicited or that the employer gave the employee the money and the candidate just gives it back? or is he required to forfeit that to the city. >>vy to move my car and i just walked in and maybe my timing was just right. >> if a candidate has accepted, we are talking about 1.26, the contribution band? >> if a candidate accepts

. >> commissioner studley. >> here. >> commissioner hur? >> here. >> any public comments on matters on the agenda and not on the agenda. >> i am larry and we want to include the impact that the pending legislation will have on san francisco campaigning and reporting and that is timely now because we are going into an election season and if the legislation such as the disclose act pass its will have a direct impact on what it is that people are required to do here, and it will be good to have the ethics commission provide an update and this is similar to what the fpc does, and also i would note that los angeles ethics commission is participating directly in the conversations with the ftpc and the state on the california disclose act and offering their insights from their experience. and i would recommend that the san francisco ethics commission also participate in discussions so that they could have the benefit of your experience. thank you. >> thank you, mr. bush. >> i would just mention to the commission that we are spending the day with t