brought in today, it is one of the plants you can have in your garden and attractive foliage in the stum -- in the summer and the birds do like the berries. but the tree in the winter time can be a wonderful piece in your landscape. and that's what i want the viewers though think about, is stop thinking about the pansies or the cabbages. start thinking about winter beauty. and the gardens are getting set up with evergreens. this time of year they've going to bring in trees with leaf changes. and a lot of those trees, in and of itself is beautiful during the winter months. >> we have a variety of shows and you can talk about what we are seeing. the thing here is to realize you don't have to give up on color. >> here is a specimen with one tree that is a brilliant blaze red. put one tree in your landscape that will set the landscape apart. even though it's a couple of weeks it is still something vibrant and people attracted to in the landscape. >> is that the name of the tree? >> no. that's a specimen among the rest of the tree. that is actually a maple and it's a red sun set maple. and it