but i like to be in the category of john prime and emmylou harris and john cougar and sturgill simpsonyou were his hero. >> i don't know about all that. i never met a man from kentucky who had another man as his hero. but i like sturgill a whole lot and i like what he does. he opened a lot of shows for us. early on in his career, anyway. i think he's authentic. i think he makes music that he wants to make. that's something i think the americana genre probably has not i've are genre has. we're not targeting an audience, really. i think, for the most part, people who you would call americana musicians are trying to make good, honest roots-based music, and that's real will you about the best you can hope for. >> rose: is there or is it made of great conflicts in nashville between pop and country and whatever other genre there is? >> i think in a lot of ways it's made up. but it's fun to think about it that way, isn't it? is it's nice to think we're winning and they're losing. i enjoy that. gives me something to do when i'm riding down the road in a tour bus. >> rose: but you are winning?