like people who have suffered cases coming out of sturgis? pretty hard to identify with any great degree of certainty the spread of that particular virus through the sturgis rally. i know i saw estimates of tens of thousands of people and i don't know that you could tie all that together. all of those people interact with hundreds of people along the way to sturgis, and as they got home they interacted with others at home. so i don't think those are very reliable stats, but it's certainly reasonable to tell people what their options are and gish them those options. let them exercise those choices as responsibilitily as possible. responsibly as possible. >> speaker, i appreciate you joining us. speaker steve haugaard, thank you. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. >>> dr. anthony fauci responding to the president's attacks quoting the "godfather" plus the race to 270 with two weeks left until the election. looking at the best paths for both joe biden and president trump. ♪ you can go your own way ♪ go your own way your wireless. your rules.

it's difficult to quantify, for example, the role of sturgis in all of the states.m around the country, from every state went to the sturgis rally and there's been many people diagnosed with covid after returning to their home states. figuring out exactly what proportion of that was driven by sturgis, i don't think that we will be able to know. people may not report their illness. they may not get diagnosed. they may spread it without knowing it. there were enough confirmed cases that we know it has played a role. and there's also some, there's miscommunication by leaders even now in the dakotas for example, we heard governors in the dakotas say the numbers of new cases. the rise in new cases is because we are testing more. and that's just factually wrong, there's more serious cases. more people in hospitals. more people in icus, there's a lot of serious covid, more than there was in the dakotas, it's important for leaders to be factual about what is going on so people can react accordingly. >> thank you for coming on. >> thank you, don. appreciate it. >> cease and

remember, in sturgis, south dakota? could that be part of this?of this and probably is. it's difficult to quantify, for example, the role of sturgis in all of these states. we know that people from around the country, from every state, went to the sturgis rally. and there have been many people diagnosed with covid, after returning to their -- their home states. figuring out exactly what proportion of that was driven by sturgis, i don't think we'll ever be able to know because people may not report their illness. they may not get diagnosed. they may spread it without even knowing it. but it definitely had -- there were enough confirmed cases that we know it has played a role. and there was also some -- there's miscommunication by leaders, even now, in the dakotas, for example. we have heard governors in the dakotas say the number of new cases, the rise in cases, is just because we're testing more. and that's just factually wrong. there are more serious cases, more people in hospitals, more people in icus. there is a lot of serious covid, more than

right now, south dakota, the home of sturgis, is averaging 793 cases per million. dakota's is even higher, 918 cases per million. which if the state were its own country would be suffering the worst coronavirus outbreak in the world right now. dr. joshua wynne is on the front lines in north dakota. he's the dean of the north dakota university school of medicine and the state's chief health strategist who has warned the state needs to take rising cases seriously. i really appreciate you taking some time, doctor. give us a sense of how things are in your state right now. >> well, give, chris, and i think you got it right, that the numbers are clearly headed in the wrong direction. you know, i think north dakotans got lulled by that law that you were talking about where when the pandemic started we were relatively immune, and i think we let down our guard and now we're paying part of the price for that. >> you know, one of the things i think early on, right, when you had -- when you had the outbreaks concentrated in fairly dense and urban areas around detroit, around

we read this story about the sturgis motorcycle rally.ad a caller from sturgis and the washington post had a story about the spread of the and the seed for spread across the midwest states, particularly the upper midwest and mountain west states. one of the issues they pointed out was the difficulty in what is called contact tracing. have we gotten better at doing that over the course of the pandemic? guest: no. because we are not testing everybody. the universe of positive people. when you get sick and hospitalized and when you die, wasknow that somebody positive for covid or not. but because we have so many very mild may have symptoms who never go see the doctor or are asymptomatic and are carriers who don't know. as more people interact with one another, it makes contact tracing almost impossible because there is simply too many people. ort was one of the notions one of the ideals of social distancing is that the number of new cases would be low enough that our existing health agencies, which don't nearly have the budgets that they did

we read this story about the sturgis motorcycle rally. caller from sturgis and the washington post had a story about the spread of the and the seed for spread across the midwest states, particularly the upper midwest and mountain west states. one of the issues they pointed out was the difficulty in what is called contact tracing. have we gotten better at doing that over the course of the pandemic? guest: no. because we are not testing everybody. you don't know the universe of positive people. when you get sick and hospitalized and when you die, you know that somebody was positive for covid or not. but because we have so many people who may have very mild symptoms who never go see the doctor or are asymptomatic and are carriers who don't know. as more people interact with one another, it makes contact tracing almost impossible because there is simply too many people. that was one of the notions or one of the ideals of social distancing is that the number of new cases would be low enough that our existing health agencies, which don't nearly

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and we think part of that relates to not large gatherings, as you were talking about with sturgis, buttherings where young people get together. >> you know, we've seen that in other places. we saw it in the summer where the first wave of people infected tend to be younger because they were engaging in more sort of high-risk behavior. but it's been very hard to stop that from getting to older populations. what's being done right now at a policy level in your state to try to contain this thing? because we know where that graph goes, right? we've been through this before. >> yeah, well, exactly right. the real risk from covid, while it extends across the board, is in vulnerable populations. so we've been really focused on long-term care facilities throughout the state. so as you probably know, we have a very aggressive testing protocol, especially in long-term care facilities. one of the reasons our numbers are up is because we're doing so much testing. now, that is a good thing. so that we can identify who has it, who are contacts and so forth. so we are really focused on trying to prote

. >> we remember south dakota's massive biker rally in sturgis. >> i'm not trying to fear monger. south dakota and its icus are under surge. >> laura: under surge, under siege. whatever. we all do that. i do that. it's late at night. those claims of this covid explosion in south dakota deserve some fact checking. yesterday the state reported 621 new cases. seven deaths. as to the idea that hospitals are being overwhelmed, covid patients only occupy 12.4% of south dakota's hospital beds. that doesn't tell the whole story. the talking heads you just heard want south dakota to fail because they didn't lock down in south dakota. what has that produced? something people love. it's called a job. unemployment rate that is the second lowest in the country. look at how this compares as blue states where things are really blue. new york, illinois, california, hawaii. they had the most draconian of lock downs and restrictions. total disaster zones. joining me is kristi noem. governor, have you gotten any apologies from those individuals? >> no, no apologies, laura. my people are happy. they

they had the sturgis motorcycle rally. that may have seeded the entire upper midwest. it is not possible for one governor's choices not to affect another governor, am i wrong? >> you're absolutely right. you've seen governor nome spread disease in the mt. rushmore event. what we ask watch, the -- it's a great example of people who just ignore social distancing, ignore wearing a mask, are now defiantly saying oh, my heavens, don't listen to the scientists. threatening anthony fauci who is the world's foremost expert on diseases and suggesting everybody should get sick. some people will die, but a lot of people won't die and that is not better. it is so shocking. >> it's sick and it's evil is what it is. >> it's that. >> essentially the current implicit to explicit strategy of the president who sort of dances between whether it's impolice 1i9 or explicit, thank you for your time. >> good to see you. >>> tonight we are facing the third wave of the pandemic. what lessons have we learned as we prepare for the long winter ahead? don't go away. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ every time you touch

the sturgis motorcycle rally is now being blamed for 300 cases, at least one death. there are cases now being tied to trump campaign events in minnesota, other places, as well. how much could these big events contribute to the rise we're seeing in cases? >> these are incredible super spreader events. and that means that one person can infect so many people. and so these events, it's no shock that many of the sources of cases around the country are from these rallies, large gatherings, and yes, they happen to be in places like the midwest, florida, california, and new york, areas that we're still continuing to battle with area hot spots. so that -- all of these data points lead to the conclusion that it really is not safe to have these types of open gatherings, even if you're outdoors. we're now finding data this can be airborne for a lot longer than we expected. so we have to go back to the basics. we know it's hard, but we can do it. and we can stem this tide. but i am looking at these numbers, alicea, 70,000 new cases in 24 hours and we're probably about a month be

there's a sturgis in virus cases possibly coming up in the flu season as well yet, markets have largely shrugged it all off over the course of the past six months. is it right for the markets and traders to do so >> i think it is actually and, again, let's take the long-term perspective. the economy has come back much faster than anyone expected. much faster than it did in 2009. you had unprecedented stimulus you've had a remarkably resilient corporate sector, we're seeing that today in the last week with earnings. some companies, many of the largest constituencies in he can questionty indices have benefited and the other point that doesn't get enough credit clearly this crisis putting huge pressure on a number of households but in aggregate the u.s. household sector is in much better shape than it was in 2009 debt is down easy to service the debt the savings rate sup wealth is up and this is providing an important cushion along with fiscal stimulus for the economy and for the stock market >> so how exactly then -- i mean you say that the consumer is in a better position. they're deleve

. >> for the sturgis, the virus hit close at home. >> several people of my family contracted coronavirus. my dad, he passed away in april from the virus. so it's had a big impact on claire and that's part of the reason why she's doing virtual instruction. >> i'm sorry for your loss. >> thank you. appreciate that. we actually feel school is the best place for all kids, especially kids with disabilities, but she does have some pre-existing health conditions. she's been hospitalized a couple times with respiratory illness. >> in schools across the country children are playing catchup because of covid. some of our neediest, most vulnerable, children are at risk at falling the farthest behind despite parents like these doing everything to keep up. >> if you have a neighbor family member that has somebody in the family with a disability, this would be a great time to offer to help. >> there's something we can all do. by the way, this month is down syndrome awareness month. much more of my conversation with those families on today.com. >>> religious leaders from both sides of the aisle on one m

the sturgis motorcycle rally in august in south dakota has been linked to more than 330 cases in theand plains. what's going on here, dr. jha? how much of what we're seeing in terms of the surge can be blamed on covid fatigue? >> good morning and thank you for having me on. it is clear there is some amount of covid fatigue setting in. we've been at this eight months. also, we keep hearing from our federal leaders the end is year. t the end is near. people buck up and get ready for that, and, of course, that is misinformation. the end is not near and it hasn't been. that combination really is making it harder. i think the bottom line at this point is, we are heading into a fall and winter where we're going to see a lot more cases. we know how to beat back this virus. some states are doing it. most states are not able to right now. >> i want to ask you about something dr. fauci said last night on "60 minutes." he was talking about receiving death threats. >> a public health message to save lives triggers such venom and animosity to me that it results in real and credible threats to my

i know there's been some speculation maybe this is still related to sturgis which, obviously, not inth dakota and south dakota but is it that or is this just the -- it's getting cooler? >> yeah, a lot of it with our population is asymptomatic. people that don't know they're sick that are spreading it. so the segment of the population we're trying to drill down on are the 20-year-old to 30-year-olds. unfortunately one of the areas we're having a spike is with a segment of the community that is at risk and that's our long-term care facilities. a lot of those 20-year-old to 30-year-olds also work in long-term care facilities. we're trying to drill down and get a handle on the testing and the immediate testing so that we can start pulling off the layers of those that are at risk. >> have you thought about other curbs? where are you in bars and restaurants and are you -- what data trigger points do you have that would make you think, you know, maybe we need to put in some new restrictions? >> one of the things we're really cognizant of because we were shut down economically and within the

it should help us rethink sturgis, the rallies, tulsa where we know herm maan cane go infected and died. oh, boy, they should have been giving the right messaging. their teaching moments, who's at risk in a bar, school, wherever pf r people are. >> thank you. back in the next hour. >>> coming up, we'll take a look back to see what may be ahead for donald trump. that's next. t. who is usaa made for? it's made for this guy a veteran who honorably served and it's made for her she's serving now we made it for all branches and all ranks whether they served one tour or made a career of it. we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids usaa is easy to work with and can save you money on auto, home and renters insurance. become a member today. get an insurance quote at usaa.com/quote usaa. what you're made of we're made for get an insurance quote at usaa.com/quote so you're a small bor a big one. you were thriving, but then... oh. ah. okay. plan, pivot. how do you bounce back? you don't, you bounce forward, with serious and reliable internet. powered by the largest gig speed network in

the end of august, we had the sturjis motorcycle event in which 400,000 plus bikers converged on sturgismostly coming from the prairie state region. from the dakotas, montana, wyoming, nearby minnesota, indiana and so on. it was a massive number of people for several days, no masks to be seen anywhere. a lot of heavy alcohol use and partying. and then they disperse back to their home states and we have this explosion now across the prairie states and the old industrial result belt region of america. and this is of course also the region that the president is trying to win over in the election as his supporters right now. and it is just -- there is something so macon of going to these states that are so hard hit by accepting his message don't wear a mask and they are suffering the most. >> lori. and as we're showing the pictures here as i mentioned, moments ago at the white house, and the south lawn, you see the president of the united states before departing for his last bit of campaign rallies. tossing make america great again hats to the crowd, as you could see the crowd, lots folks in

. >> for the sturgis, the virus hit too close to home, the risk of catching it at school too great. > passed away in april from the virus, and so it has had a big impact on claire, and that is part of the reason why she is doing virtual instruction. >> i am sorry for your loss. >> thank you. i appreciate that. we feel school is the best place for all kids, especially for kids with disabilities but she does have some preexisting health conditions and has been hospitalized a couple times with respiratory illness. >> reporter: schools are doing everything to protect the kids, and especially those with special needs, but abigail is in class all day with special needs students, no longer interacting with the general population. >> you feel like she loses out no having those interactions >> yes kids copy everything so by seeing other kids more advanced on areas that she is a little delayed, it will help her a lot. >> in schools across the country, schools are playing catch up because of covid but some our neediest and most vulnerable are falling farther behind, even with our parents like ke