we allowed people to -- >> brennan: trump's covid czar said those people who atten attended sturgis,f they had worry maworwore,it would have saved l. when you talk about personal responsibility -- when your personal choices put others at risk, isn't that the opposite of responsible? >> governor: it has been an incredibly challenging year for so many people. and everyone across this country knows someone we have lost to this virus. i think we need to examine the actions that we have taken and see if it allowed people to make decisions and honored our rights and freedoms in this country in a way that respects what makes america special. making decisions in one state, dr. fauci just said, might be very different than another state should be doing. i have one community that may need to make a different decision on what they would like to do than another community that may be a different size, be at a different infection rate or hospitalization rate. that's why i gave them that flexibility. we took this virus very seriously, but i also let them look locally at what was the best actions to

you live in a beautiful art of the country, sturgis it's a place i've been to thousands of times may be. i hope you stay strong. i hope you endure and no we are going to do our best to get through this. -- know we are going to do our best to get through this. guest: i expend -- extend my sympathy. that caller exemplified what people in south dakota are like. they believe in god and they support good government. i think that's one reason why senator daschle and i could get along. our backgrounds are similar. we came from low to middle income families. we lived in states with a lot of agriculture. we came from good hard-working people. that gave us a chemistry that allowed us to get things done. that was a great call on the republican line. host: both houses of congress are dealing with covid and getting vaccines out. from what you have seen, your assessment of how they are dealing with it and what advice would you offer? guest: we would like for it to have been done that are or smoother or quicker. my wife and i have gotten the second shot. there was no reaction. we will take time to

and then there was the sturgis motorcycle rally and it became one of the biggest superspreader eventsencouraging people to come to the state. >> protect their health and still enjoy their way of life and events like the motorcycle rally. our economy benefits when people come and visit us. >> by november, the dakotas were leading the world in covid deaths. and not only did she continue her hands-off approach, she made it harder for indigenous communities in her state to enact checkpoints to stop the spread of the virus where they live. it's a microcosm of what's happened throughout this entire pandemic. after the break, i'll be joined by the president's senior adviser for covid response and part of that response must contend with the fact that the virus is disproportionately hitting communities of color and with variants spreading, the disparities could get worse. a 35-year-old black man in alabama, one of the first diagnosed cases of the uk variant passed away yesterday. in a facebook post, his wife wrote that, quote, i wouldn't want -- wish this on anyone. you are now our guardian an

you live in a beautiful art of the country, sturgis it's a place i've been to thousands of times may hope you stay strong. i hope you endure and no we are going to do our best to get through this. -- know we are going to do our best to get through this. guest: i expend -- extend my sympathy. that caller exemplified what people in south dakota are like. they believe in god and they support good government. i think that's one reason why senator daschle and i could get along. our backgrounds are similar. we came from low to middle income families. we lived in states with a lot of agriculture. we came from good hard-working people. that gave us a chemistry that allowed us to get things done. that was a great call on the republican line. host: both houses of congress are dealing with covid and getting vaccines out. from what you have seen, your assessment of how they are dealing with it and what advice would you offer? guest: we would like for it to have been done that are or smoother or quicker. my wife and i have gotten the second shot. there was no reaction. we will take time to make s