. >> submissioner sierra. here. >> submissioner leeann whiffen. >> commissioners rennee have been excused. >> i want to talk about the decision to hear and take possible action on the complaints. mr. chat field who is not here, wrote mr. shaw in may, the ethics commission regularly handles referals from the task force, however it will not ajudd kate these matters, in both complaints. he repeated that in his confidential memo to mr. shen and to mark kets of the district attorney office. because the allegation involves johnson and croy executive director of the commission, the agency cannot handle the matter. period. the commission is engaged in the discussion with the various outside agency and so forth and so on. that was in august of last year. i did a record search of your files. i just came back from sitting in the commissions office. there is absolutely records of any kind relating to discussions with any other agencies. the references to the san jose city attorney's office are dated 9 months after that. bu