suchll, you know, i have respect and empathy for him, with anhe's dealing ultra-right wing that if theyad cancer, and he had the cure, wouldn't accept it. i mean, i have never seen such -- a nice phrase. you believe that? >> i believe that. i believe that. so hugethe hatred is that although it's certainly not the majority of the country at all, you know -- it's maybe 20%, but it has a lot of influence. is i admire him, because he always trying to talk, trying to reach out. would say too much. but i think that's the kind of fault to have. say notome people enough. they do. >> i don't know. >> some people say he did not office in that way, in reaching out, enough. >> well, that has to do with the social criticism that he's not a -- >> exactly. whoot a guy who -- a guy drinks beer and plays poker. >> it's the notion that ronald and tipp o'neal would do battle all day and at night, have a scotch and try to talk about the world. >> they did? >> oh, yeah. that's true. >> no. i can imagine tipp o'neal doing it but i can't imagine ronald reagan -- not because he was -- just because he really di