he is in conversation with sudeep reddy deputy global economics editor at "the wall street journal"."deputy global economics editor at "the wall street journal"." >> host: your new book is called "hidden in plain sight: what really caused the world's worst financial crisis and why it could happen again." you were a member of the financial crisis inquiry commission which was investigating the causes of the financial crisis. you dissented not only from the democrats on the committee but also from the republican appointees. what did you see that they didn't? >> guest: i had been looking at the housing system in the united states and dodd-frank, i'm sorry, fannie mae and freddie mac for quite a while before i got on the commission. so i had quite a lot of background about what has actually been happening in the housing sector. so i was looking for the commission to look into what happened with fannie mae and freddie mac, what will they might have played in the housing crisis, and ultimately the financial crisis. and i found that the commission was not interested in that. and they wouldn't