glynn secker with demos like these being branded hate merches by the british home secretary suela brotherman we asked why jvl had chosen to be present. speaking on behalf of jewish voice for labor i'm the national secretary and we're here, obviously in solidarity with the people of gaza, what we think is happening is unbelievably atrocious, it's a gross violation. of human rights, the war crimes and what's happening now actually is genocide, and it's astonishing that this is being done really without the main powers, particularly america and britain reigning in netanyahu and stopping this this horror, we see that we say this as jews, because we're groups of jews. like our counterparts in, there's another group here called jews for justice for palestinians and a jewish socialist group and others, but also a big group in the states called jewish voice for peace, and all of us put human rights at our core, and to see israel, the military might of israel doing this to the palestinians, is so horrendous in terms of our core beliefs and who we are and what what it means to be a jew, but we have to

moson, but i just want to bring uh ivon ridley back in to this one, because you talk there about suela brotherman almost daring richy sunak to to sack her, the fact that he cannot, and in some ways kind of walked back a little bit of the damage that was done by her article in the time, saying, ultimately it's for the police chiefs to sort this out, and he'll be you know heavily ensuring that they do and ensuring that they'... take responsibility, how do you find that situation playing out? well, i found myself in the rather bizarre position of defending the head of the metropolitan police, because sir has been put an impossible position now by this out of control, home office minister, he he's in no- win um quite how and and what advice he's going to give to his police officers for the marches in future. it's it's difficult to know, and of course, what suala braven has done is indirectly, i'm sure she, well, who knows what goes on in her mind, but indirectly she's put out an appeal to every right-wing nut to go along to these peace marches, and i've been on them and and they are peaceful marches,