suella braverman was as punchy as ever as you might expect.ntion on human rights and multiculturalism. here's a snippet of what she had to say. >> years ago, i was the first cabinet member to publicly call for us to leave the european convention of human rights. i was demonised then. people said i was mad and crazy for saying that. i was mad and crazy for saying that . two years on, we've got, that. two years on, we've got, you know, so—called one nation candidates in the leadership contest, like tom tugendhat leading with a pledge to potentially leave the european, hasn't gone further than rishi sunak. >> i mean, if you look at the wording there, he's done it in very caveated wording. >> but i thought that was quite telling that someone from the one nation wing of the conservative party would even want to embrace that subject. but i think the fact that he has chosen that subject, you've changed the weather. something to talk about is a reflection of how we've moved the debate and shifted the overton window. when i said multiculturalism wasn't

we were listening to the wonderful interview that christopher hope had got with suella braverman, andending in your views and they're very supportive of suella. and he says, suella must stay in the conservatives to represent and fight for us conservative party members who agree with her. i agree with annie. let's say with bob, bob says suella says all the things that normal british people are thinking. that's fine. i don't agree with this so much. she's wasting her time in the tory party as they're all leftists. well i'm not a leftist and i'm still in the tory party along with labour. she needs to go back to reform now . and frank back to reform now. and frank suella stands for all that. being british is. suella stands for all that. being british is . she needs to being british is. she needs to be conservative leader and people once again vote conservative. well, christopher hope's interview covered a good deal of ground with the former home secretary. everything from the tory leadership race to why we lost the general election to failing the electorate. on the issue of immigration. s

suella braverman was as punchy as ever as you might expect.ention on human rights and multiculturalism. here's a snippet of what she had to say. >> years ago, i was the first cabinet member to publicly call for us to leave the european convention of human rights. i was demonised then. people said i was mad and crazy for saying that. i was mad and crazy for saying that . two years on, we've got, that. two years on, we've got, you know, so—called one nation candidates in the leadership contest, like tom tugendhat leading with a pledge to potentially leave the european, hasn't gone further than rishi sunak. >> i mean, if you look at the wording there, he's done it in very caveated wording. >> but i thought that was quite telling that someone from the one nation wing of the conservative party would even want to embrace that subject. but i think the fact that he has chosen that subject, you've changed the weather. something to talk about is a reflection of how we've moved the debate and shifted the overton window. when i said multiculturalism wasn'

we were listening to the wonderful interview that christopher hope had got with suella braverman, and sending in your views and they're very supportive of suella. and he says, suella must stay in the conservatives to represent and fight for us conservative party members who agree with her. i agree with annie. let's say with bob, bob says suella says all the things that normal british people are thinking. that's fine. i don't agree with this so much. she's wasting her time in the tory party as they're all leftists. well i'm not a leftist and i'm still in the tory party along with labour. she needs to go back to reform now . and frank back to reform now. and frank suella stands for all that. being british is. suella stands for all that. being british is . she needs to being british is. she needs to be conservative leader and people once again vote conservative. well, christopher hope's interview covered a good deal of ground with the former home secretary. everything from the tory leadership race to why we lost the general election to failing the electorate. on the issue of immigration.

but when suella braverman was home secretary, it made it clear that she could not give orders, as thee are rightly independent of political control . independent of political control. rioting is always wrong and justice must always be done. let justice must always be done. let justice be done. though the heavens fall as ever. let me know your views. mail gb news. com but i'm joined now by ian acheson, senior adviser at the counter extremism project. and thank you very much for coming in. not a great look for sir mark rowley today. >> well , i'm mark rowley today. >> well, i'm surprised i've only just seen some some pictures of the apology that was put out that an apology had to be put out at all. i mean, these are people who are involved in deaung people who are involved in dealing with something that has the shape of a national insurrection. and there are busy police officers. he probably shouldn't have lost his temper. but i think, you know, we can extend him a bit of latitude at the moment. i think we can actually i mean, i'm afraid i thought the whole impression was wrong. >> firs

but when suella braverman was home secretary, it made it clear that she could not give orders, as the police are rightly independent of political control . independent of political control. rioting is always wrong and justice must always be done. let justice must always be done. let justice be done. though the heavens fall as ever. let me know your views. mail gb news. com but i'm joined now by ian acheson, senior adviser at the counter extremism project. and thank you very much for coming in. not a great look for sir mark rowley today. >> well , i'm mark rowley today. >> well, i'm surprised i've only just seen some some pictures of the apology that was put out that an apology had to be put out at all. i mean, these are people who are involved in deaung people who are involved in dealing with something that has the shape of a national insurrection. and there are busy police officers. he probably shouldn't have lost his temper. but i think, you know, we can extend him a bit of latitude at the moment. i think we can actually i mean, i'm afraid i thought the whole impression was wrong. >

the tory leadership race is now underway, but a notable absentee is former home secretary suella bravermanced to pull out after failing to receive enough support for her candidacy in an interview with gb news very own christopher hope , braverman christopher hope, braverman spoke about her chances of running for leadership again in the future, as well as addressing rumours that she may defect to reform uk. >> you won't ever stand again for tory leadership. is that because you get one chance? really, of that ? i mean, look at really, of that? i mean, look at jeremy hunt. he's had 2 or 3 goes, but with declining returns. >> listen, i very much hope the leader we choose stays in post for a very long time. >> we do tend to chop and change. let's let's give it a good go. but, no, that will be it for me, i think. >> and what's next for you? there's talk about reform. would you ever join there's talk about reform. would you everjoin reform? you ever join reform? >> i'm not going to defect a reform. no, and i hope i'm not dnven reform. no, and i hope i'm not driven out to reform by my colleagues.

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that is the suella braverman , demands the suella braverman, demands she wants to see fulfilled by therty. and it's a challenge, really, to those who might follow mr sunak. do they go after the middle ground where they get squeezed , ground where they get squeezed, maybe by the liberal democrats and labour, who are now quite strong in areas where the tories were strong before last month's general election? or do they try and deal with the reform uk threat? she said in terms that lee anderson should be a tory mp, he was badly managed by the whips in the last parliament, but she says there's no way back, she thinks, for nigel farage and she says she won't join reform unless she's forced out by her own party. and that's the challenge, i think, for these right wing tory mps, chris reform isn't going to go anywhere. >> in fact, if anything, the fact that they managed to win five mps is quite extraordinary, given the first past the post system . and obviously suella system. and obviously suella braverman knows that and given her analysis of the challenges that we face, as well as the challen

we had suella braverman as home secretary, saying that the islamists are now in charge, that london is no go zone, that london is a no go zone, that there are weekly hate marches, all of which was objectively nonsense. >> not not if you're jewish, but . >> not not if you're jewish, but. >> not not if you're jewish, but. >> well, that's also absolutely not the case. those are not threatening , marches forjewish threatening, marches for jewish people. having been on them as a jewish person with the jewish block many times. >> but a lot of jewish people are just because you're not frightened. and that's great. a lot of jewish people are frightened by them. >> can i ask you just one question about two tier policing? because this is what i'd like someone on the left of politics to answer this for me. so when keir starmer, after the black lives matter protests came out, rushed, i would argue, after nearly 30 police officers had been injured after mass disruption, desecration of national monuments, and he came out and he did the video saying, i'm taking the knee. i'm showing solidarity with b

as well, that she she goes on to talk about, which is suella braverman ., you know, suella braverman. now, you know, i don't particularly like each other very much. right you'll have to wait and see exactly what she said about that. but do you think there's suella could actually join reform ? actually join reform? >> i don't know, it seems she feels very isolated in the conservative party. she's almost sort of said, well, look, no one here agrees with what i stand for, so maybe she will. maybe she won't. i mean, again, it's not my priority. my priority is to build reform. if people want to build reform. if people want to come, that's great, but i'm not. i'm not going to spend my time chasing them around. >> how does it make you feel when. excuse me? you see people like priti patel there, who i actually think there is not a huge, huge ideological difference genuinely with with you and priti patel, who seemed quite willing to say that, that some of the rhetoric that you have used is akin to that of a home office minister taking this. i mean, what utterly lud

suella braverman making, you know, farage and suella braverman making , you know, provocative making, provocative statements about immigration, which i think is insulting to ordinary people because it tells them, actually you've got no agency and you're a bit thick and you're easily duped by these people, if you can't get your head around the fact that these issues have been burning for years and what we're seeing now is them playing out in a violent way on our streets, then frankly, you're not fit to be in power . and it seems to me today, power. and it seems to me today, over the last day or two, actually, there's now a serious element of complacency in the commentary where a lot of people think, oh, it's great. we had the counter protests and they pushed the protesters back, even though the protesters didn't really want that . well, this is really want that. well, this is the point i'm making. they weren't actually really there, weren't actually really there, were they? and therefore all is well again in britain. and you know, we're a you know, we're a peaceful, country at ease wi

talking about— —— like suella braverman talking about an — —— like suella braverman talking about anto refugee policy, the british public want control— policy, the british public want control and compassion. james cleverly said — control and compassion. james cleverly said tonight _ control and compassion. james cleverly said tonight that - control and compassion. james cleverly said tonight that we i control and compassion. james - cleverly said tonight that we cannot let rioting thugs and rioters win. but sometimes the narrative that is being _ but sometimes the narrative that is being engaged _ but sometimes the narrative that is being engaged with, _ but sometimes the narrative that is being engaged with, it— but sometimes the narrative that is being engaged with, it is— but sometimes the narrative that is being engaged with, it is like - being engaged with, it is like britain — being engaged with, it is like britain is _ being engaged with, it is like britain is painted _ being engaged with, it is like britain is painted as - being engaged with, it is like britain is painted as

i think you said illegal immigration represents an existential threat, your colleague suella bravermanmatory, isn't it? doesn't it leave people thinking they are at war, and that takes them out onto the streets thinking that violence is justified? the streets thinking that violence is 'ustified? ., the streets thinking that violence is justified?— isjustified? no, because you are not livin: isjustified? no, because you are not living in _ isjustified? no, because you are not living in the _ isjustified? no, because you are not living in the northern - not living in the northern communities where they are, let's face it. _ communities where they are, let's face it. they— communities where they are, let's face it, they can't get housing. the housing _ face it, they can't get housing. the housing waiting list at the local council, — housing waiting list at the local council, they could be waiting three or four— council, they could be waiting three or four years to get a house, gp appointments, dentalappointments. i appointments, dental appointments. i have appointments, dentalappointments

, keir starmer, nigei— suella braverman, keir starmer, nigel farage, the signals from elected — nigeln we all sleep a bit more soundly tonight _ matter. can we all sleep a bit more soundly tonight than _ matter. can we all sleep a bit more soundly tonight than we _ matter. can we all sleep a bit more soundly tonight than we did - soundly tonight than we did last night? soundly tonight than we did last niuht? ~ ., soundly tonight than we did last niht? . ., 4' ., soundly tonight than we did last niuht? ~ ., ~ ., ., soundly tonight than we did last niuht? ., ~ ., ., , ., , night? who knows? i am still really worried about _ night? who knows? i am still really worried about the situation. - night? who knows? i am still really worried about the situation. i i night? who knows? i am still really worried about the situation. i am i worried about the situation. i am pleased — worried about the situation. i am pleased and gratified about what happened, but i am still worried. i think happened, but i am still worried. think we happened, but i am still worried. i think we have deep, underlining

, those kinds of suella braverman, those kinds of statements from politicians that they are directlysued? >> no, i'm arguing that that they create the context for the riots. people have to take responsibility for their own actions. the immediate cause of the riots were people deciding to choose violence , rather than , to choose violence, rather than, google and a conspiracy theory onune google and a conspiracy theory online and realise that it was completely untrue. >> okay, i want to bring toby young in. now at that point. so sam's got a point, hasn't he? is that the various politicians potentially have raised the temperature, but ultimately the rioters are responsible for their own actions. what do you think of that? >> well, i'm reluctant to blame, senior politicians, heads of think tanks , journalists, dating think tanks, journalists, dating back 15 years for the recent disturbances, i would have thought that the reason so many ordinary people, particularly in depnved ordinary people, particularly in deprived areas, and i wouldn't quibble with sam's criticism of previous governm

you know, you're, i presume, still party ronald, but, you know, your former colleagues like suella bravermanho stoked up the woke wars, the culture wars, and used language like invasion and talked about what would the lib dems do about the cross—channel problem. the lib dems would have done something to clear the backlog. i mean , just just just let i mean, just just just let everyone stay. no part of the problem is the backlog and you know that and you know that because because they're sitting well , people because because they're sitting well, people are waiting some of them for up to 2 or 3 years in hotels waiting for their asylum to be processed. >> no, the problem is people are coming to the country illegally. >> i don't know what we'll do. i tell you what we'll do after the break. we will come back. we will discuss the backlog and we will discuss the backlog and we will discuss the backlog and we will discuss operation scatter, which is the labour government's plan to take people , young men plan to take people, young men who've crossed the channel out of hotels and to put them into so

there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00, and i'll bring you our full interview with suella braverman hope, and find out whether or not she's planning to join reform. after pulling out of the race to become the next tory leader. could suella should jump into bed with nigel? but first, here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin. thank you. good afternoon. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines . at 330, a with your headlines. at 330, a 17 year old boy accused of murdering three young girls in southport has now been named as axel rudi bacanu three children, seven year old elsie dot stancombe alice aguilar, who was nine, and six year old b.b. stancombe alice aguilar, who was nine, and six year old bb. king were killed during the attack at a holiday club. he's been remanded in youth detention accommodation after appearing at liverpool crown court this morning . angry crowds took to morning. angry crowds took to the streets of manchester, hartlepool and london with some declaring their support for tommy robinson, saying we want our cou

we are not in a position where we have suella braverman accusing the police of being biased against farright things are being done. the law is the law. if you have someone under 18 who is accused of an offence, there are restrictions on their and naming those individuals. what he did have is a fuelling rumour mill on the internet so i hear people saying that long term, the internet but it is only a short while ago were all these right—wing racist and misogynist, homophobic accounts, were closed down but in the interest of ideological free speech, for example, elon musk of those accounts have been reinstated. so if you didn't have that, if you didn't have that ability to do that, i think it will make it more difficult for people to organise. so it is to be looked looked at. it was happening not so long those people who were spreading racist, homophobic, misogynist comments were taken off the internet but they have subsequently been allowed in the us in huge increase in the amount of followers of those people.- followers of those people. thank ou. france has become the latest country to u

however, its uk story focusses on suella braverman's lucrative work tapping into the right—wing speakerng kong. 0ur scotland correspondent katie hunter reports. this is the pinnacle of pipe band competition. more than 7,000 pipers and drummers gathered in glasgow. bands from scotland, northern ireland, the usa and canada among those competing for the biggest prize in piping. 0ur 202a world champions are... ..inveraray and district. cheering i feel absolutely ecstatic. really pleased for all the guys in the band, and the effort they put in. it's been a tremendous couple of days, just really... i'm very proud of my players. and they're proud too. on top of the world for the third time. katie hunter, bbc news, glasgow. time now for the weather with helen willetts. good evening. it's been a fairly quiet weekend of weather. that's about to change. as we head into the new week, dare i say it, for some, it's going to feel distinctly autumnal. there will be heavy rain at times, and the potential for some unseasonably windy weather, as well. not this evening, though. the showers are fading, the

take for instance suella braverman or mp anderson, the other adding fuel to the fire and being responsiblee prime minister today have been very robust in how they say they are going to challenge the sort of disorder on the streets that the police will seek out those responsible. you have made it clear that this is a minority of people, they are violent, dangerous and threatening. to what extent are you seeing support from the majority of people in rotherham. after today we saw in middlesbrough around 300 people turning out to protect a mosque there. like i said, we can't lose the focus on the humanity that is out there. unfortunately, it gets out there and it whips up frenzy between the two. but after southport into attacks on the mosques and how the southport community came together and said not in our name. it is important these positive messages get out there because the vast majority of people are peaceful and law—abiding and coexist. unfortunately, it seems like social media hasjust taken over and has spread like wildfire in i think the mainstream media needs to be a lot more proactiv

how is that, i think relatively mainstream politicians, nigel farage and people like suella bravermanpanicked about what they called the islamist takeover of they called the islamist takeover of the uk, the people think this is an existential moment, people fear that the country is being taken over by invaders, it is not true, it is not the case, the fact we were telling people that, the fact we were scaring people is one of the things, the aftermath of this, we all have to look honestly at our own behaviour and ask what we did we do to contribute to this, and i think those politicians out on the relatively mainstream right of our society have a lot to answer for. there is no justification, society have a lot to answer for. there is nojustification, of course, for this kind of violence, is a prime minister was setting out, but there will be people saying, beyond the misinformation and disinformation, there are people who wanted to express concerns, not the rioters, to be very clear. calicut have a conversation about those concerns whilst also tackling this? let's be completely open ab

let's go to the daily telegraph where suella braverman she's back, she says, sir keir starmer's war on. the chancellor, rachel reeves, has been dishonest with the public in order to justify her high tax, high spend agenda. matthew laza . this £20 billion black laza. this £20 billion black hole isn't going away, is it? well no, it's not going away and it's going to have to be filled. >> which is why you've seen rachel having to take tough decisions this week. i mean, sadly, with the tragic events and the awful follow up that we've had, this week, the fact that the winter fuel allowance is going to be taken away from the majority of pensioners hasn't had perhaps the political storm it would otherwise have had. and so i think we have got tax. we've got tax rises to come in the autumn. so the big question over the summer for labouris question over the summer for labour is what taxes is it going to rise. who is it going to hit. who's going to have to share the burden? >> well, let me tell you. let me tell you what it's going to be capital gains tax. >> i think you're right. >> i think you'r

suella braverman said islamist are taking over. :, , braverman said islamist are taking over. . , ., _ over. that is something we would want to address and take - over. that is something we would want to address and take up i over. that is something we would want to address and take up with | over. that is something we would i want to address and take up with her directly. humza yousaf, former first minister of scotland and leader of the scottish national party, thank you for your time and thank you for holding on so we could speak to you. much appreciated. tiffany lynch is deputy national chair of the police federation of england and wales. we can speak to her life now. thank you forjoining us. first of all i want to get your reaction to something the government has been saying now for the past couple of days which is that police forces have the resources they need to be able to deal with the situation at the moment. d0 able to deal with the situation at the moment-— able to deal with the situation at the moment. , :, ., ., the moment. do you agree with that? absolutel . the moment.

priti patel said that, suella braverman said that.as you say, has said it is a shameful truth that britain has become a hotbed of casual criminality, which is very true. they think they can get away with it. ., ~ , ., , . with it. neil, thank you very much for coming — with it. neil, thank you very much for coming in _ with it. neil, thank you very much for coming in to _ with it. neil, thank you very much for coming in to talk— with it. neil, thank you very much for coming in to talk to _ with it. neil, thank you very much for coming in to talk to us. - let me bring you an update on those developing lines we were bringing you from the world health organization. an official says the israeli military has agreed to three different humanitarian pauses in gaza in three zones, each for three days, with a fourth day of a pause in fighting agreed if needed. the world health organization is saying that this is to allow for a polio vaccination campaigns to be carried out. the un is prepared to vaccinate an estimated 640,000 children in gaza wi

will we see people like suella braverman , robert like suella braverman, robert jenrick lee anderson labour government at the same time? of course, the labour government has actually been given a bit of a leg up by rishi sunaks outgoing conservative government in that immigration. legal immigration to the uk has declined year on year from last july because of those conservative policies to stop people coming here on student and care visas, bringing their families over immigration on those visas has gone down from over 90,000 by nearly a third, so that might help keir starmer address the root of this problem, even though it's something that lots of labour mps criticised at the time. >> olivia utley, thank you very much. that's our political correspondent, olivia utley, a quick email, if i can read it. >> yes, please. just on sadiq khan and good morning to you. you say welcome to the real world, sadiq. now you know how the jewish population of london feel as they face pro—palestine marches, which you openly support ? support? >> well, it seems a bit the gall, and i don't mean to be rud

and i think that suella braverman she's no stranger to making controversial statements, but i think that she certainly made a point there. i think in terms of the pro—palestine protest, and i'm someone who firmly believes in the cause of palestinian statehood, it's very clear that we saw a great deal of anti—semitic chanting, the displaying of pro terror paraphernalia as well, which undermines the palestinian cause . undermines the palestinian cause. but i felt like the policing response when it came to those kind of disgraceful incidents was, somewhat weak. truth be told, this phrase, far right protesters has been bandied around willy nilly in the last 72 hours, >> so much of the mainstream media just, i think, lazily reaches for that trope. does that have any real meaning in terms of this conversation about these people here? would you say there is such a thing as a do they see themselves as a far right political movement? >> well, i think it would be a mistake to dismiss perfectly legitimate concerns over immigration integration as far right extremism. now, we saw in southport, for ex

as the former home secretary, suella braverman pointed out , the convention pointed out, the conventiontively grants the right to come to this country. wait for it. listen very carefully to three quarters of a billion, let's say 750 million people, more than ten times our current population. it's time to leave this convention and set our asylum policy on democratic terms. third, the next leader must create a deterrence for channel crossings, as the rwanda policy did . without a policy did. without a deterrence, the problem will not end. and finally, the next tory leader must bring an end to mass legal migration permanently. it was clear at the election that there was little appetite for laboun there was little appetite for labour. the government lost the election. the opposition didn't win it. the reason we lost was because we neglected our voters who then stayed at home or voted for nigel farage, which ran on a reduced migration ticket. the british people never voted for mass migration and it's time to bnng mass migration and it's time to bring it under close control. at last. these st

i also wanted to know whether or not she would throw her arms around suella braverman if she became theader. those two are rumoured not to get on particularly well. why she thought she was better than robert jenrick and of course, as well . what would happen with well. what would happen with nigel farage and the reform party? i'll be on nigel's show later with another clip of what she had to say. i'm not sure it's great news for nigel. can i just very quickly, michelle, not to get into too much of your time. i have got another big scoop tonight. >> get on with it then. >> get on with it then. >> and it is revealed anyway, some of labour's secret plans for asylum seekers and illegal migrants. and i can't help but wonder, given tinderbox britain at the moment, whether or not that might actually make things a heck of a lot worse, you'll have to tune in to find out. >> that sounds riveting stuff . >> that sounds riveting stuff. patrick christys and i, for one, will be watching. that's tonight's patrick christys at 9:00. thank you very much for that. now, where were we? okay, i remember exac

plus we will be dissecting my interview with the former tory leadership hopeful suella braverman., but first the news with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> well, the prime minister today told police chiefs that officers should tackle rioters using the same powers used to ban football hooligans. he's announced a new violent disorder unit in the wake of the southport stabbings and the disturbances that followed across some parts of the uk, including

but it's a bit like suella braverman labelling most people, or seemingly too many people on pro—palestine right though. >> just tessa dunlop, william atkinson, do you do you think any of this is on on the government's communication is all about blaming it on public service issues locally, >> i think there are myriads of reasons why people go out. i mean , partly i think it's down mean, partly i think it's down to the government and the way that it's treating it. and i think especially if the government thinks it's all down to social media, then they're going to have a very rude awakening over the next five years, but i think, as we say, as i said, you know, there's the collapse of not only the previous government's failure to create the sort of capacity within the judicial system that require but various tensions that have been long running and are very difficult to manage are currently unravelling at pace. and i think, as i say , this is and i think, as i say, this is the greatest challenge to a government authority since the western discontent, the brixton, the riots. well, the brixton

they're mostly saying priti patel , suella braverman, priti patel, suella braverman, kemi badenoch, theywent to reform. why is that? well, immigration is a big part of it. how can we change that? but of course they have to defend the record of the previous government, which, as you say, is their government, which did let in enormous numbers of migrants to britain. so it's a really, really tricky balance for them to strike. and they're really aware as well of the process that takes place before a conservative leader is elected. you have it whittled down to two candidates by the parliamentary party. so the party of mps, which on the whole and obviously i'm generalising a lot here, but that rump of conservative mps who are left tend to sway a little bit more to the centre. they're sort of centre right rather than rather than the than the right wingers of the suella braverman ilk. but then once it's whittled to down two, it goes over to conservative members and they get the final vote on it. now, conservative members on the whole are much, much more right wing. so these candidates have a lot

plus we will be dissecting my interview with the former tory leadership hopeful suella braverman.t the news with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> well, the prime minister today told police chiefs that officers should tackle rioters using the same powers used to ban football hooligans. he's announced a new violent disorder unit in the wake of the southport stabbings and the disturbances that followed across some parts of the uk, including one outside downing street. last night, sir keir starmer insisted he'll put a stop to the thugs . stop to the thugs. >> the community of southport had to suffer twice. a gang of thugs got on trains and buses, went to a community that is not their own, a community grieving their own, a community grieving the most horrific tragedy . the most horrific tragedy. >> well, in relation to that tragedy in southport, a 17 year old male charged with three counts of murder and ten with attempted murder in southport has been named as axel rudi cabana. three children, seven year old elsie dot stancombe ali agha, who was nine, and six year old b.b. king, were

take for instance suella braverman or the other adding fuel to the fire and being responsible for theose. certainly the home secretary and the _ language they choose. certainly the home secretary and the prime - home secretary and the prime minister today have been very robust in how they say they are going to challenge the sort of disorder on the streets that the police will seek out those responsible. you have made it clear that this is a minority of people, they are violent, dangerous and threatening. to what extent are you seeing support for the majority of people in rotherham. after today we saw in middlesbrough around 300 people turning out to protect a mosque there. ~ �* there. like i said, we can't lose there. like i said, we can't lose the focus _ there. like i said, we can't lose the focus on — there. like i said, we can't lose the focus on the _ there. like i said, we can't lose the focus on the humanity - there. like i said, we can't lose the focus on the humanity that | there. like i said, we can't lose i the focus on the humanity that is out there. unfortunately it gets

. >> but suella braverman got rid of that because she she brought in guidance to get rid of that kindse. and they've scrapped that because it's labour and it's like, okay, scrap the higher education free speech bill. scrap that, bring in this islamophobia definition, which is far too robust and ridiculous. and yeah, they claim it's to stop tensions. they think tensions have been ignored between jewish people and muslims because they this guidance is making things slip through the net or something. it sounded tenuous to me. >> it was quite interesting. in at the edinburgh fringe, i noficed at the edinburgh fringe, i noticed that, you know, this time last year i was interviewed by various people as a stand up comedian. did i think it was going to have a chilling effect on comedy? you know, the snp's slightly, weaponized. they've got a really turbulent, posted hate speech thing. and i said, well, i don't we'll see, but i don't. well, anyway, the only case that it came that came close was reginald d hunter was accused of it. you know , by by, accused of it. you know, by by, jewish. couple

i mean, suella braverman we know. we know what she says. suella braverman says. i tried to do it.tters to the prime minister. they weren't properly answered. you know, we know what suella would say. and of course, she was kind of almost a rival for the right of the party. the last time that they all ran for leadership. so i think priti patel has got a different view. she thinks, well, i'll be honest about this. we have to supply a workforce to the care sector. many of them come from overseas. let's own that one. rather than fight it. >> got it. christopher, thank you very much . you very much. >> that's all from britain's newsrooms today. hope you've had fun. and it's been informative. nana's back tomorrow. i'm back tonight. 8 to 9. >> what time are you on next? we've got. good afternoon britain. stay tuned. i'll be here at three tomorrow. don't miss it. >> well, emily, i just got off a train. and it turns out that these inflation busting pay rises aren't going to prevent the strikes. they're going back on strike. can you believe it? i thought they would. >> i thought they would.

we've heard overnight from suella braverman on gb news political podcast, chopper's politics podcast.ld me that the party's got to re—engage with those 4 million reform uk voters and get them back on side. and the challenge, i think for any of these candidates is what they do. if they go into the middle ground, they go into the middle ground, they risk being squeezed with they risk being squeezed with the lib dems and labour. but what do they do with reform uk? many would say unless you neutralise nigel farage, somehow before the next election, you'll still have a split right wing and you can't win power. so yeah, we'll hear from robert jenrick. he'll say the government is tired already. he's, he'll say there's no commitment on defence spending. that 2.5% of gdp commitment. the tories made but labour hasn't made yet. or when they'll get there. and the ambition to build new homes. he's saying as a former housing secretary, robert jenrick will say, that they scrapped the ambition to build new homes where they're required . new homes where they're required. he says that labour have taken

. >> well, it would reverse those changes introduced last year by former home secretary suella bravermanice that downgraded the duty to monitor these sort of non—criminal hate incidents. okay >> well, joining us is mo lavette, a program coordinator at the academy of ideas. mo, thank you very much indeed. >> good afternoon britain. it is 1251 and this is good afternoon britain. >> it is indeed now the home secretary. she's going to require police to record more non—crime hate incidents. now, this is a reversal of changes made by the conservatives to protect free speech. >> well, it would reverse those changes introduced last year by former home secretary suella braverman, which issued new guidance to police that downgraded the duty to monitor these sort of non—criminal hate incidents. okay >> well, joining us is mo lavette, a program coordinator at the academy of ideas. mo, thank you very much indeed. these non—crime hate incidents have been a bit controversial, haven't they? i mean, what exactly are they? and should police be spending time recording them ? recording them? >> yeah. so i m

and in fact, we've heard from suella braverman. when she was home secretary before she was home secretary before she was sacked, she said that the police were choosing favourites when they were policing those palestinian demonstrations last year , although three other year, although three other contenders to be tory leader have said they don't believe there's two tier policing in this country. so that is a live debate happening right now and that's where we are. we get to hear from the home office or the home secretary, i should say, by the way, to both of you, that the way, to both of you, that the home office have not put a single minister up to be interviewed on gb news since labour won the election, and we're trying to make sure that changes. but i think they've got to try and talk to our viewers and our listeners who are deeply concerned about what they see on the on the, on the streets in this country. >> yes. and they're more than welcome to come on this program, chris. it's all very well and good.the chris. it's all very we

he called out former conservative ministers, by which we read suella braverman lee anderson.ion worse. now, how is that going to play politically? it feels as though the violence has sort of the debate has moved off the streets and into the political sector, and i think it's going to get quite ugly, but it's quite i mean, that's interesting in and of itself, isn't he? >> stoking the rhetoric in sadiq khan's view then, is people saying, and whether you agree with it or not, and i'm not saying you should agree with lee anderson or suella braverman, but the idea that saying i'm not happy with what is happening to my country, then you're accused of stoking is problematic. >> yeah. and i think this is going to be a really, really difficult issue for keir starmer looking towards this term at the end of this term of parliament and the next one, because he now has quite an odd coalition of voters with the sort of majority that keir starmer won. he has those kind of left wingers who were very, very much represented in some of his own mps, and someone like sadiq khan, who believe that

because originally when he came into the home office, it was sort of to try to temper suella braverman and wants to leave the echr and positioning himself very, very clearly as a potential future conservative leader. so we'll have to see. but of course, attacking labour, as you would expect. but the fundamental problem is that the conservatives had 14 years promised to stop the boats failed to do so. you know, the numbers have continued to rise . numbers have continued to rise. and so they've been in power. and so they've been in power. and again, talking about the fact that there's only 100 prison places, more prisons should have been built. well, they had 14 years to build them. so this stuff is , is difficult. so this stuff is, is difficult. but yes , he certainly is making but yes, he certainly is making very clear what he will do with the conservative party if indeed he gets put in charge of it. >> thanks, catherine. thank you very much indeed. let's talk about this prison situation, which we were speaking to robert jenrick about 100 spaces left in men's prisons. right. this is in

. >> and yet we have had criticism of the police by figures like former home secretary suella bravermann itself could have been said to have undermined the police, suggesting that they've got a two tier approach. then the pubuc two tier approach. then the public looks at that and thinks, goodness me, if the person who was once running the home office thinks this, what am i to think? thinks this, what am ito think? and that then leads people to think that they can take liberties with the police, hurl bncks liberties with the police, hurl bricks and rocks at them , shake bricks and rocks at them, shake police cars and turn them upside down and torch the police station in sunderland. >> no, i disagree, there's no justification whatsoever explanation. but there's no justification for doing that. i think it is right that we hold the police to account, and that we ensure that they are even handedin we ensure that they are even handed in the way in which they enforce the law, whether that is in the disturbances, the terrible disturbances in harehills in leeds, a week or two ago, or indeed here