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. >> ben, do you think that david cameron has the same politics as suella braverman?iously one of them is david cameron is not right wing, david cameron is not right wing, david cameron is not right wing. >> and the debate, the schism in british politics at the moment is not between the left and the right. >> the schism is between those that would govern us through unaccountable domestic institutions. otherwise known as quangos and international institutions like the european union. w.h.o, the un, etc. embed in place international law, which we're repeatedly told trumps domestic law and trumps domestic interests, and is prepared repeatedly to give away power from the people of this country to , to these country to, to these institutions. and if you stand, as i believe, many in the conservative party do, and certainly the labour party and liberal democrats against the nafion liberal democrats against the nation state of the united kingdom, you are anti—british . kingdom, you are anti—british. it's a matter of fact. you can shake your head, but if you take if you have po

only home secretary for six weeks anyway, but he did not take the advice of robert jenrick and suella bravermanve speeded up the deterrent effect of the rwanda flights. >> and so i'm afraid he he was not really telling us the truth when he said he'd solved it all. >> now go back to kemi , tesla >> now go back to kemi, tesla thinks the maternity leave thing was a mistake. yes, i rather warm to politicians who make gaffes. i think it shows that they say what they believe in, rather than just the script they've been given from central casting and the fact she made a gaffe or two at the conference, i thought made her, in a sense , i thought made her, in a sense, a stronger candidate because a more genuine one. more genuine one. >> more genuine one. >> well, if the gaffe had been something she believed and stuck by then you could make that defence. but i think it's totally the wrong thing to say. and do. i don't know of any normal conservative who thinks that the maternity leave is too generous, or that we should somehow act as a deterrent to people having babies. >> it's actually quite balanced. >>

and i make the same case against suella braverman as well, because i said she was very shoddy.e statements that i just think, how did you get past any selection, their own worst enemies, because it makes people. >> it makes it so for easy people to attack them. >> we want them to be speaking normally at a level that the pubuc normally at a level that the public understand and say. the things that really matter to them. that's the kind of openness that we have, what they have to be careful about is how those who are their opponents manipulate that. >> i reject that you can you can be open said for most prime minister, i reject that because you can be open. >> you can be you can speak , you >> you can be you can speak, you can be very down to earth, but you can also be very precise with your language. and that's something that, i mean, you know, journalists and people that work in our industry have to be very good at that. people that do front facing people, like people like us, for example. however, i think things that we say, for example, it's a lot harder to be taken out of co

well, the stop the boats messaging originally developed under suella braverman, who then james cleverlyaced as home secretary. he kept the messaging, he kept the policy. but at the time there was a bit of consternation over the fact that james cleverly had reportedly been very rude about the rwanda policy, saying things that i'm not sure i can repeat at this time on television, and saying that it was a useless policy. but of course he has . saying that it was a useless policy. but of course he has. he stepped away from those reported comments, trying to explain them as about implementation rather than the idea of a deterrent, which he says he has always supported. but yes, the message from james cleverly today is this idea that stop the boats as a slogan was achievable under the last parliament, set the conservative party up for failure because saying stop the boats would really imply hello would really imply that the boats could all have been stopped. i've just been photo bombed by tom tugendhat. i didn't expect that at this time. and you know, we've got to stop meeting each other this

people would agree with you, of course, and your sentiments, but you are echoing the words of suella braverman. and i'm not sure if same views. and i'm not sure if you saw this observer piece yesterday , which was headlined yesterday, which was headlined they have him by the balls. senior tories warn robert jenrick will be at the mercy of the braverman rights as leader. the party right. sorry. party figures say the front runner will be brought down by the right if he tries to move to moderate ground. if you do become leader, so , first of all, become leader, so, first of all, are you are you fearful that you'll have to move to the centre ground if you become leader? and also, are you a genuine right winger? some tory members are suggesting your rhetoric, your braverman esque rhetoric, your braverman esque rhetoric is just for this leadership race. >> well, firstly, ben, i wouldn't believe everything that you read in the guardian that i saw that article and it's a complete load of rubbish. it's in the conspiracy theory box. i believe very strongly that the conservative party has to represent th

. >> suella braverman is cancelled at cambridge.fone issues guidelines on gender identity and insects are unleashed at the lgb alliance conference. this is free speech nation . welcome to free speech nation. welcome to free speech nation. welcome to free speech nation with me, andrew doyle. this is the show where we take a look at culture, current affairs and politics. and of course, we'll have the latest from all those lovable culture warriors who have been unleashing insects. this week. we'll get to that in just a moment. but coming up, i'm going to be talking to the author of a new book that documents the hounding from protesters over her pro—women's rights views and the organisation which had its conference disrupted by thousands of crickets, will be joining me tonight and also an author found guilty of spreading pro—nazi propaganda gives his defence and of course, myself and my fantastic panel will be answering questions from this wonderful studio audience . and wonderful studio audience. and my comedian guests this evening are

suella braverman says after cambridge cancellation, she was going to go visit the society that she wast of back in the day. and sure , back in the day. and sure, cambridge university conservative association. i always think it's weird when politicians are weird, like they're in these groups in their sort of 20s. i just think, just get drunk and have sex like normal people. but anyway, yeah, but she was going to go and address them. and then pro—palestinian activists of course, got wind of it as they do and wanted to shut it down. and supposedly it was advice given that it wouldn't be safe for her. >> having said that, cambridgeshire police said we were made aware of ms braverman's planned visit and following an assessment, braverman's planned visit and following an assessment , the following an assessment, the visit was deemed to be low risk. >> yes, i saw that . >> yes, i saw that. >> so it sounds like maybe she was like trying to kind of create more of a storm by by cancelling it and then complaining. >> i know, but then they might have the, the, the, the group themselves might have