>> we keep hearing about sign think and sufi and shia, and i haven't heard you mention it in afghanistan. is there -- >> there's sunni. they're sunni. they're, like, saudi arabia. shia are in persia, iran. and i said that there was a perpetual, endless civil war between shia and sunni. that's everywhere. iran is shiite, and it now is trying to dominate the gulf states including saudi arabia partly as a religious war, partly as an economic matter. and saudi arabia is sunni. and those in afghanistan are sunni as well. >> that's what i -- >> okay, yes. i didn't know that at the time either. i didn't know that my afghan husband was husband to haveically the most dominant tribe. there are many, many, many tribes in afghanistan. it's basically -- the country is mount now, it's in-- mountainous, it's inhospitable, it is treacherous, it is dangerous from every point of view. people live in small villages, isolated one from the other. they have no interest in a centralized government up until this moment. i hope it changes tomorrow. and it is, afghanistan now is the largest opium producer, and th