it's not, first of all, the spiritual director of sufism oriented who is dr. carol wilen conner at this time and is, part of the relationship isn't at all related to our financial contribution of sufism. we have things we are very committed to. >> thank you. please join us. >>> welcome back. if you joined us you know we've been talking about sufism oriented and schools and what terry and others have done in the schools. tell us more about that. >> one of the expressions we're mentioning is a more public service and serving god through service to his creation has been to the schools and we are very happy that the preschool in the past two years has been identified as the best. it's very affordable. we try to keep the cost as low as we can. all of the teachers are dead dated to serving the children who living the highest principals we can, our love for god, the things at the heart of sufism. we integrate very richly into the curriculum the art. there's a lot of music and drama and fine art. the children are the broad spectrum. >> it's the way in which we live an

graphic, al-ghazali, he provided, he took over and provided a much more philosophical defense of sufism. so finally, well, like the monastic path in christianity or other areas, religions have to take care of their mystics, and so what we fd here is that the path is embraced and we're allowed to see it. so let me let a true sufi sheik speak just a bit about his experience. >> [translator) >> we take from jesus christ this- upon him his humility in dressing. humility in eating. i will mean the whole knowledge. nobody can become a mystic, a sufi, without having a deep knowledge. we love those who hate us. we bless who curse us. we do not keep hatred against anyone in the world. we're against rules. and we do not even curse those who are fermenting. we hope that god will illuminate his way to the right. >> you speak of love and humility in the sufi tradition. do you feel that then the violence that we sometimes see in the holy land is very painful, very difficult? >> [speaking in arabic] [translation] >> violence cannot emerge from people- it cannot emerge from people who love god, in any