commissioner sugaya. commissioner wu. and president fong >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes 6 to gore and places you under the comments and questions. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. the first item is i am scheduled to increase go a surgical procure on the 16 and won't be in attendance and there's a chance i may not be here on the 23rd and it's hard to change the scheduling of that procu procure so to gossiping give you accurate notice for the 23rd and possibly the 16. open another item i'd like to recognize that tomorrow is my fabricates a one hundred that birthday and he served as a commissioner in pleasant town and they did a good job out there if you've had the opportunity to velocity that town. they were one of the first few opportunity towns to keep their main street and enduring takes place out in the main street and it's the site of a lot of parades and another thing they did acquit well, there me made some good improvements over the years and eliminated some buildings that were built in the 50s not

those are my thoughts. >> commissioner sugaya. >> yes, i have one question. on the minutes, it's not a question about the minutes. but it's the way that things are identified. on 111 california, which was on monday -- not monday but on november 14th. i recused myself and in the minutes i am identified along with commissioner borden as being absent. technically i guess i am absent. >> in that particular case, commissioner sugaya. i remember because you were requested to recuse yourself from the previous item. and on the minutes it shows you actually recused. but we never recused you from the second item. but because you were absent that's how we chose to identify. because technically speaking you were not officially recused from both items and why it appears that way. >> all right. >> good answer. >> no, i remember that and i had to think what to do. >> that's fine. on the second item i have, the governor of california has an annual historic preservation award program. and i think the director's memo indicated that the twin peaks tavern land-mark recognition w

commissioner sugaya and lt. governor guadagno. so moved, commissioners, that motion passes announcements 6 to zero >> commissioners item 17 csa was continued and will place you on that 18 abc at is 15 hundred request for a condition. >> excuse me. should we tack - take a 5 minute break. less than 5 minutes. >> okay welcome to san francisco planning commission regular meeting. we're in the process of calling items 18 abc. at the 1500 page street request for conditional use authorization >> good afternoon. i'm with the department staff. as the project team has a presentation i'll obey belief. the item before you is a hifkd resource to create one hundred percent of housing projects in conjunction with the mayors housing. it would convert unit. the existing building covers approximately 90 percent of the area and as a result, many requirement can't be met because of the existing complnts. the building has been vacant for a number of years. the disappointment are for the conditional use authorization. the proposed su d was presented to

commissioner sugaya. >> yeah. i move to certify of the eir. >> second. >> i actually don't have a conflict that i commissioners, if there's no other comment there's a motion and second. commissioner antonini. commissioner borden arrest commissioner hillis. commissioner sugaya. and commissioner wu >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously and place you an items 4. the san francisco 6 adaptation of finding under the california environmental quality act of gentle referral and request for permit authorization and a mike smith. so mr. gillman gave you guys a go presentation. i'm going to skip to the necessary stuff. 3 of the sites are located with within the city's coastal zone the lake merced and the south wind facility and the north wind facility. pursuant to planning code section 330 the that planning zone application is required as the project site is located within the coastal zone boundary. the project is appeal able to the commission because it's a major works project. the lake merced f

commissioner sugaya. >> yeah, i think what commissioner moore is trying to get at is something beyond just the design. and to try to put it in the context of the urban design plan and the downtown plan and see how all of those different policies and parameters and whatnot could affect this particular corner. that i understand. i think that without -- everything costs money. so -- i think one of the directions she was indicating was perhaps there could be a different approach to the structural system. you had the existing structural system which is concrete and it's in bays. but is there a way to lay a mat or something on top of that and then it becomes an independent system that is supported from underneath the -- but you have more freedom up above to play with different design aspects. and that's the kind of thing, maybe unreasonable, i don't know. but i think that's direction that commissioner moore is trying to get us to look at. short of that, then going back to commissioner hillis's concern about it being too much, trying to make it too integrated or not integrated. i think is so

. >> commissioner sugaya. >> this is a dumb question but the 20,000 is per unit. >> correct. not a dumb question. >> commissioner antonini. >> let me see if i understand this correctly. one of the restrictions was that the participants to be eligible to pay the money and to be able to convert had to be in line as of april, 2008. they had to be already tic owners in a compliant situation. and anyone who got into something like that after that period of time will not be eligible for the conversion to condominiums. >> no, that's not correct. the first year it's that 2008 time frame. starting april of 2014, they had to be in a tic as of april of 2011. the date each year, the date slides up. >> when is the cut-off date for someone who has gotten in a tic to be able to convert? is it the date of the legislation? >> i don't understand the question. >> all right, let's assume that people thinking there was a lottery last year and jointly converted a six-unit building. are they able to take advantage of the conversion? at what date are they not able to take advantage of the conversion

. >> commissioner sugaya? >> i like the concept. i think the idea of having this kind of establishment is great. the only problem i have with it is our approval is not for this specific establishment. we are approving a conditional use permit to allow a bar to go in there and hopefully, i don't know what the motion is going to be, but if there is approval, i would hope that this business stays around for a long time. because if it doesn't, the conditional use still there and another operator can come in and make it a regular type bar whatever that, however we want to characterize that, hard liquor or whatever. i suppose they would have to get a different abc license. to staff, how closely can we tie this conditional use, could you describe the kind of liquor license or maybe the project sponsor can describe the exact type of liquor license that you are getting from abc? >> part of the conditions of approval is limited to a 42 liquor license to sell beer and wine only. if they wanted to get a general license, they would have to come

commissioner sugaya. commissioner wu. and president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously have to zero. now that you've done that you can tape our 2014 consent calendar. the hearings scheduled for the 2014 proposed meeting dates. commissioners i've provide you with a draft hearing schedule for 2014. january 2nd has been cancelled as a result of this hearing schedule but it will appear here. january 30th is a fifth thursday of the month and you generally cancel those hearings. on thursday may 29 is a fifth thursday. july 3rd is cancelled for the jout. july 31st is a fifth thursday and you generally tack a hi, ate in the last two weeks of august. and then there's the holiday for thursday september 25th i believe it's rancho an that's being recked and october 30th is scheduling cancelled it's a fifth meeting. and thursday, november 30th is thanksgiving and christmas is cancelled and january 1st for new years eve. i would recommend you cancelled an additional meeting between january 30th and may 29 you'

. >> commissioner sugaya? >> yes, am i to understand that in the extended family situation that the rental unit is going to be for the in laws. >> my client has arrived, one of them. is that okay for them to address that. >> yes. please come to the microphone. >> my name is tom. my wife susan and are the owners of the home. yes. it's our intention now and it has been since we bought the home in 2007 for it to be a multifamily home. my wife's elderly parents would live with us. they are currently staying with us now. my wife is expecting a baby tomorrow. >> in terms of where they are living now do they less invasive -- live in the city? >> they live in california. they are planning to live with us. >> commissioner moore? >> if what we heard is correct we are talking about a single family home with the provision of the house being used as a two family home because we are maintaining entrances and plumbing fixtures that they are two independent units. what concerns me is while the unit we are gaining the studio u

. >> on that motion, [roll call vote taken], antonini, hillis, moore, sugaya, wu. that passes unanimously 6-0. >> all right. welcome back to san francisco planning commission meeting for december 12, 2013, >> please turn off all cellphones and electronic devices. >> commissioners you left off on item 13. 13. 2013.0663c m. smith; 4155 558-63222 333 dolores street - east side between 16th and 17th streets; lot 057 in assessor's block 3567 - request for conditional use authorization, pursuant to planning code sections 303, to amend motion no. 16683 which authorized children's day school to install three temporary classroom structures on the property. the conditions of approval contained in the motion stated that the structures must be removed within 10 years from the date of occupancy 20144. children's day school is requesting to retain the structures on the site for an additional 10.5 years 20244. the property is located within a rm-1 residential, mixed, low-densityy district, and 40-x height and bulk district. this action constitutes the approval action for the proj

. >> commissioner sugaya. >> if you can't say it in 10 minutes, you are not going to be able to say it in 15, i don't think. we are faced in the architectural world making presentations on specific time limits. when you go in to speak on an interview, they give you five or 10 minutes to get the project. you have to practice and you condense your presentation into whatever time frame there is. the longer there is, of course you will take all the time in the world to add things and whatever. and i see oral presentations as supplementary to the materials we have received in our packets. which are obviously much more detailed or should be than what is presented. so the orals i think are kind of a summary statement. and maybe there are things that have come up in the meantime when the packets have gone out and they thought of other things. but i think those can fit well. and if there is an opportunity to ask for more time, that's fine. >> commissioner moore. >> what we mostly have on larger co presentation is corporate and legal and not all are balanced their weight with each other. and i a

. >> commissioner sugaya. >> yes, i don't know if i missed it or what in here. when commissioner comments were made that were addressed to some staff activities that might take place, like status reports or memos or something like that. we used to receive a list of those requests. and the status of each one. whether they were done, i guess if they were done, they upon tak -- they were taken off. is that a procedural thing or part of our rules or what? >> if i could respond to that commissioner. it got a little squirrely in the sense that a commissioner would make a request. but i am not sure that the entire commission would agree with that same request. if you want to revisit an action item list, is what you are referring to. think as far as myself and i think even staff is concerned there would be appreciation if there was a consensus. for instance, if a single commissioner made a request directing staff to do something. we found ourselves struggling to which one we respond. >> i like to remind us and we are still doing it. either habitually or because we know

commissioner antonini, hillis, moore, sugaya, commissioner chair wu. that motion passes 6-0. and places you on public comment. i have no speaker cards. >> any general public comment? seeing none, public comment is close. meeting adjourned. [ meeting is adjourned ] >> >> >> >> on december 28, 1912, san francisco mayor stared into a sea of 60,000 of constituents that gathered at geary. the berth of the first publicly owned transit system in the city, the san francisco municipal railway. the inteblth of our everyday life everyone with the seniors use it for work and play. although there's a many valuable websites on line. >> the first thing a senior will ask me is about viruses if they go on websites what are the discharges of being on the internet. >> for instance, you see something that maybe from the bank and the first thing it starts asking you for a private information where you get intiger's offers and they're not real. the way to tell where it's a fishing scam or not is who it's from. they can fake a name that says paypal but they can't fake an e-mail address it would be

commissioner wu, moore, commissioner sugaya.ssioners first on your calendar items proposed for continuance point 14.27 improvement and habitat continuance to january 9, 2014. >> >> zoning map amendments. those are all the continueances i have >> any public speakers on items proposed for continuance. >> this is on dolores and 17th? >> no. we are on items for continuance. >> yeah. this was a notice. >> right now we are talk ing about the items. 333 dolores is on item 13. you can speak on that item when it's called up. >> is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> commissioners antonini? >> move to continue the items. >> second. >> on that motion, commissioners to continue the matters and proposed. commissioner antonini, moore, sugaya, wu. that motion passes unanimously 6-0. places you in consent calendar. it may be voted on by roll call vote. it shall be moved from the calendar and considered at a future hearing. item 3. 1650 mission street. item 4, 1423, lily street. request for condominium

. >> commissioners, sugaya? >> i think that's some of what's reflected in the table of your last page because you have in rin con -- monies coming in. so that must account for the second tower that's being constructed now and others. trying to think the boundary between rin con -- and transit is it folsom? >> i believe it is folsom. i'm not too sure. we are working on integrating the improvements in rin con. >> some of the other projects and this captures the fees also. >> yes. >> okay. >> commissioner borden? >> just two small questions. because the emerald park was given to the city, does that then move around money anticipated for the park and where does that money go? >> that's correct. the revenue projections you are showing was generated from the park and it will be placed forward than in 2 years. >> in the cases of the various transportation projects, i noticed that some are in conjunction with tep planning. are some of the dlans -- dollars with the tep project. >> the tep is still under environmental rev

on that motion commissioner antonini, borden, hillis, moore, sugaya, chair wu. that motion passes unanimously 6-0. places you on item 12. hyde street 1040 hyde street. >> good afternoon, vice-president wu and members of the commission and department members staff. the item before you is a request for conditional use authorization to establish a bar doing business as liquid gold located within the polk street. the applicant wants to sell a wine. the definition of a bar allows abc license to sell beer and wine and on sale beer. the project sponsor has agreed to only pursue a license 42 an allowing the sale of beer and wine on or off the premises. it would occupy a 140 skwaeft -- square feet. three letters of opposition from the neighborhood of concentration of bars and alcohol establishments in the neighborhood and eight letters in support and concerned about the concentration of bars in the neighborhood and the impact on their business and 60 signatures opposed to the project. many were received after your packets were delivered. i have them here. the department

. >> commissioner sugaya. i don't know what we're talking about >> commissioner antonini suggested bringing the 30th book. two people are missing open the 23rd so if we add back the 30th we'll move told me items from the 23rd audits i believe you can move those items to february 6th with two things on the calendar >> i guess whose going to make the decision from the items be obey moved from the 23rd to the 30th. >> we can decide items the further out it goes we don't know the promotions but we could have promotions coming in late and a i don't see a reason to add back the 30th is my point. if we're concerned about absence we can deal with that. in terms of we can bring back and cancel the meeting for some reason director ram do you see - i i know the calendar have been relatively lighter in the latter part of this year. do you see the workload in the department generating more items for our hearings >> actually, i do. >> we're in a bit of a lull because we're between the period where a lot of the promotions be