it seems that director mulvaney has suk secceeded in the early s of taking over at the bureau. we didn't have a morning in which two directors showed up. one filed suit. we don't know where that stands at moment. the other one, mick mulvaney, showed up with donuts. >> insane. think of the week mulvaney would have without the cfpb. you have a budget. we're facing a government shutdown. we have tax reform. but he has time to take over the cfpb. >> reporter: well, that's right. to the first point about the legal issue, guys, look, i've been talking to white house officials. they feel very confident that the federal vacancy act trumps, for lack of a better word, what was in dodd/frank. this is within the president's authority to appoint an interim director. of course, you have the justice department in the eight-page memo that you mentioned agreeing with that, as well as the cfpb's legal counsel. which i think is a really interesting and important point to underscore. i wouldn't be surprised if we heard a little more from mick mulvaney a little later on today. look, this is going t