. >> captain chesley sully sullenberger takes control of the airplane from his copilot with two simple words. "my aircraft." remarkably there is footage of the plane's last moments airborne. >> sully took over control of the airplane and called for the dual engine failure checklist that we do. and i started to perform that. >> trying to get the engines restarted. >> yes. >> was there any luck at all? >> no. the engines have to be in a certain start envelope, we call it, to start. and that usually is predicated on you going a lot faster. the airbus dual engine failure checklist assumes the engines have failed at cruising altitude. 30,000 feet would have given the pilots ample time to figure things out. hitting a flock of canada geese at just 3,000 feet, that's another story. what at this point is going through your mind? >> at this point i'm thinking, this can't be happening to me. >> if the engines weren't producing thrust why wouldn't the plane have fallen from the sky, out of control in the answer, simple aerodynamics. a plane with an engine failure can still be controlled as it come

and we'll talk to sully sullenberger about what might have been gone wrong. for the first time, the father of adam lanza talks about the sandy hook shootings and his son's mental health. >> reporter: does he blame himself in any way? >> pelley: don dahler has the story. at a blood test may predict alzheimer's disease. dr. jon lapook on the new research. and chip reid reports on what may be the biggest obstacle keeping man from reaching mars. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: the mystery has the attention of the world. what's become of malaysia airlines' flight 370. tonight, dozens of ships and planes from a numbef countries, including the united states, are conducting a search of from the boeing 777 vanished. the plane left kuala lumpur, malaysia, saturday morning for beijing, china, with 239 people on board, including three americans. today, relatives in both cities held vigils and tried to comfort one another during what has become a painful and frustrating wait for news. we have a series of reports ton

we'll get the latest from seth doane in beijing, and captain sully sullenberger. more russian troops apparently sent into crimea. charlie d'agata and elizabeth palmer are on the ground in ukraine tonight. budget cutters take aim at military commissaries. what it would mean for the families who depend on them to make ends meet. >> it would directly affect my household budget. >> axelrod: and daylight saving. who really stands to gain when we lose an hour of sleep tonight? captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news." >> axelrod: good evening. i'm jim axelrod with a western edition of the broadcast. a malaysia airline 777 cruising along at 35,000 feet from kuala lumpur to beijing disappeared off the radar early this morning, no radio call, no distress signal. and now two oil slicks seen off the southern coast of vietnam are fueling fears that the plane with 239 people on board crashed into the south china sea. relatives of passengers have been gathering at the airport in beijing. three americans are reported to have been on board. the names of two pass

schieffer: we'll hatch the latest from malaysia and our team of cbs aviation, including sully sullenberger. then ask the chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers, who he knows about the plane's disappearance. then we'll turn to the other big story, the vote today in crimea and the crisis over ukraine. what can the u.s. and our allies do if russian president vladimir putin tries to annex the former soviet state. we'll hear from former obama national security advisor tom done lone and a panel of experts about that and the other developments. 60 years of years because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs >> schieffer: good morning again as i said earlier there is breaking news now on ukraine have agreed in a phone call according to the russian ministry, to seek resolution to the ukrainian crisis through what the news release says, is constitutional reform in ukraine. that is the sum total of our knowledge of this, it just came over the wires, our state department correspondent margaret brennan has on this. what have with you able to find out? >> this is base

captain sullenberger, for a boeing 777 to disappear, it's one of the most reliable airlines out there? >> it is. and it disappeared during one of the most risky times of flight, the cruise. planes are going to spend more of their time in cruise. >> the 777, it's got built in redundan redundancy, it has backup systems if something goes wrong. the crew didn't have enough time or wasn't able to for whatever reason to actually communicate, what does that tell you? >> it tells me that something catastrophic took place there, it was sudden, unplanned and they had a lot to deal with quickly. >> captain sullenberger, you know what it's like to have to make a quick decision when something goes wrong on a flight. you say that when faced with a sudden emergency, pilots have a list of priorities, can you explain what those are? >> absolutely, in fact, most pilots know them by heart. first, 88, then navigate and only last communicate. the pilots would have been working together as a crew, there would be one pilot to his assigned a pilot flying in charge of controlling a flight path, the other pilo

the perspective now from captain chezly "sully" sullenberger, and jim toman.rcial jets for near 30 years. captain sullenberger, for a boeing 777 to disappear, it's one of the most reliable airlines out there, isn't it? >> it is. and it disappeared during one of the least risky phases of flight, during cruise. the most risk, obviously, is during a landing or takeoff. long haul planes will be spending more of their time in cruise and be statistically safer than short range aircraft. >> the 777, it's got built in redundancy, it has backup systems if something goes wrong. those systems weren't enough to right whatever went wrong and the crew didn't have enough time or wasn't able to for whatever reason, to actually communicate. what does that tell you? >> it tells me that something -- some kind of catastrophe took place there that was sudden and unplanned and they had a lot to deal with quickly. >> captain sullenberger, you know what it's like to have to make a quick decision when something goes wrong on a flight. you say that when faced with a sudden emergency, p

we'll get the latest from seth doane in beijing, and captain sully sullenberger.e russian troops apparently sent into crimea. charlie d'agata and elizabeth palmer are on the ground in ukraine tonight. budget cutters take aim at military commissaries. what it would mean for the families who depend on them to make ends meet. >> it would directly affect my household budget. >> axelrod: and daylight saving. who really stands to gain when we lose an hour of sleep tonight? captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news." >> axelrod: good evening. i'm jim axelrod with a western edition of the broadcast.

airways captain chesley sullenberger is our cbs news aviation safety consultant. you may have more experience than anyone ditching an airliner in the water. you put your airplane down in the hudson famously in 2009. these pilots, if they were forced to ditch at sea, what would they have been facing. >> reporter: a night water landing wo >> reporter: a night water landing would be extremely challenging. first of all visually it's very difficult to judge one's height above the water at night. so you have to set up a descent rate and hold it until you touchdown it would be a very challenging situation. and then if the airplane didn't break up, the evacuation had to take place life rafts would have to be deployed. it would be a real challenge. >> pelley: presumably the ocean would have been rougher as well than the hudson river was. >> reporter: absolutely. >> pelley: chance of success, not great. >> reporter: not great, possible but not great. >> pelley: now the triple 7 has an emergency locater beacon, a radio that goes off automatically in the event of an accident.

it's not like the hudson sullenberger. but great book out right now, "new york times" best-seller list called "unbroken." two aviators in rafts for 40 days. >> an extraordinary story. world war ii. >> yeah. so people survive these things. i'm hopeful that if it was a ditching that there's going to be survivors. i give credit to the australians for not overdoing it and raising people's hope. hope is slim if in fact this is debris from the crashed aircraft. but there is always that. so i just wanted to share that about -- because i can understand what the families are going through, having been through that left for dead scenario myself. >> sure. jeff, it's good to get that perspective. we're going to take a short break. our coverage continues. ska no matter how busy your morning you can always do something better for yourself. and better is so easy with benefiber. fiber that's taste-free, grit-free and dissolves completely. so you can feel free to add it to anything. and feel better about doing it. better it with benefiber.

. >> reporter: captain sullenberger from danville spoke on "face the nation." >> the aviation industry never willingly tolerates this nev of ambiguity. >> reporter: the final words from the cockpit came after one of the communications strms was disabled but gave no indication anything was wrong. investigators are trying to determine who spoke those words, whether one or two of the pilots were involved in the disappearance and if so whether they acted under duress. they are also exam ping a fight simulator taken from one of the pilot's homes. >> we don't know anything other than the kinds of information that's opinion provided to us and unfortunately provided very late by the malaysian government. >> reporter: the plaent continued to transmit faint hourly pings recorded by a satellite. showing it took a turn and went back over malaysia before disappearing. >> with the passage of time, it makes the very ability in the search much greater and makes it much harder to find out what happened. >> fames with loved ones on flight 370 voiced their anger at the malaysian government at a bea shing

now, what if they did a sully sullenberger type landing, tried to land on the water and actually landed the middle of the indian ocean, and then slowly the plane began to sink? >> well, you know, i don't know how the currents run over there. but i think when you take an airplane and try to ditch an airplane like that -- remember, sully landed in the hudson. it didn't have waves, didn't have currents like that. it was calm and it was daylight. i mean, this aircraft didn't have anything going for it. if that was the case, i'm sure it's in the bottom. >> and even if it were floating for like the sully sullenberger's plane on the sudden son, people would start getting out of the doors. so they would be floating, if you will. so it's -- these are all the theories that are out there. as you guys well know. and it's heartbreaking to think about. let's not forget, 239 people. >> absolutely. >> >> were aboard that airliner. stand by. as new data from thailand reveals a possible change in course, we're also going to check in with our own martin savidge in a flight simulator to get a feel for bein

airways pilot sully sullenberger pulled off the seemingly impossible safely crash landing his passenger-packed jet in one piece on the hudson river. >> kudos to him, man, did a great job. >> reporter: most of the time is wreckage is not in one piece, debris scatters, some sinking, some floating. >> life jackets could be in there, seat cushions, anything in the bins that floated. so it's certainly possible that substantial pieces of lightweight debris, not aircraft structure, could be found floating six days after if the aircraft struck the water. >> reporter: air france flight 447 crashed into the atlantic ocean in 2009. in this case floating debris led search crews to the wreckage five days after it went down. the debris field was relatively contained. that shows it broke up when it hit the water before some of it sank 2 1/2 miles to the ocean floor. in 1996 twa flight 800 exploded in the sky near new york. debris scattered far and wide. investigators had to map out several debris fields. the cockpit sank, but the fuselage and wings scattered far because of how high up the plane was when it e

cbs news aviation and safety consultant captain chesley sullenberger says it's very unusual for the 777 to crash midflight. >> only a small percentage of accidents happen in the cruise portion of the flight. most accidents happen in the landing or the take-off portion. >> reporter: investigators are looking into two names on the passenger list that match passports stolen in thailand. but authorities say it's too early aw any conclusions about why the flight disappeared. alison harmelin for cbs news, new york. >> the search continues. names of the missing have not been officially released. >>> taking a look at the latest developments in the ukraine, armed pro russian forces refuse to let a foreign military mission enter crimea. the group comprised of military officers from north america, europe and asia had tried to enter cry meria to try to assist with deescalating tensions there. meantime, dozens of military trucks and ships continue to carry armed soldiers into that portion of ukraine. president obama is monitoring the situation during his florida vacation and the president has spoken

and we'll talk to sully sullenberger about what might have been gone wrong.stime, the father of adam lanza talks about the sandy hook shootings and his son's mental health. >> reporter: does he blame himself in any way? >> pelley: don dahler has the story. a blood test may predict alzheimer's disease. dr. jon lapook on the new research. and chip reid reports on what may be the biggest obstacle keeping man from reaching mars. captioning sponsored by cbs

we will be live from beijing and get reaction from captain sul j sullenberger. blood test results that could defect alzheimer's disease. and former senator al franking joins us in the studio. that's the news for this monday. i'm anne-marie green. thanks for watching. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com and i'm frank mallicoa . >>> good morning jiff one. it's monday, march 10. >> nearly 4:30 on your monday and it's raining. >> yeah. >> storm clouds rolling in the bay area right now. it's going to be picking up just in time for the commute. unfortunately, here it comes rolling on in. we have much brighter and warmer days ahead. we will talk about that coming up. >> the roads are slick once again this important. the drive to work is coming up. >>> we begin with an earthquake. things falling off shelves. it was a magnitude 6.9 about 10:18 last night. it was 50 miles off the coast of eureka. there was no susan mcginnis

sullenberger's great success, landing on water is difficult. so in almost every case, the airplane does not maintain control, does not make that totally one piece landing like he did. so it comes apart. whether you're trying to land successfully or not. so we're going to have pieces in most cases. the pieces we see now are large enough. i've done a fair amount of over-water surveillance, actually, in the military. very difficult to tell what you have you from up high, where you're flying at altitude. but down low, good indications. the color is right. emergency equipment, emergency ramps, those types of things would be bright yellow, bright orange. the trouble, they would also be that way in maritime for emergencies there, too. so we can't be sure what we have. i'm a show-me kind of guy. i hope they can get a piece. >> you're not the only show-me person in this story. there are people around the world who are desperate for some indication, whether it's to assuage these just, you know, traumatized families, or just to assuage the rest of us who

we'll go to kuala lumpur on the latest on the missing plane and get reaction from captain sully sullenbergerorida, is the most corrupt city in the state and why lawmakers want to wipe it off the map. >>> and actress emmy rossum joins us this in studio. thanks for watching. i'm anne-marie green. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com watching. i'm anne-marie green. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> your realtime captioner is linda macdonald. >>> good morning, everyone. it's wednesday, march 12. i'm michelle griego. >> hi, everyone. i'm frank mallicoat. 4:30. a little weather and traffic and a little bit of change. i can't put my finger on it but something's changed a little bit. >> something strange around here. the winds are whipping around the bay area today. it looks like we have some 30- mile-an-hour gusts even one 40. but lots of sunshin coming our way. >> some of us noticed it was a two hands on the steering wheel kind of morning. we'll have the morning commute coming up. >> it was windy. >> thank you. developing news right now. ome a massive f

since there was no distress call from the captain or crew, it's just a mystery, but sully sullenberger says don't read too much into that lack of communication. >> whatever happened probably happened quickly and either kept the pilot from communicating or kept them so busy until they could no longer communicate. >> reporter: among the 239 people on board were three americans including sarah bajeck's boyfriend phillip wood. >> phillip is dead, i refuse to believe it. of anybody that could survive something like this it's him. >> reporter: the u.s. navy is helping with the search and the chinese government is also redirecting satellites to search the area from above. mentioned authorities are searching that west coast of malaysia now. it's not clear why, if they found any more evidence, ken, they haven't exposed that to the public. >> they are going to keep searching the original flight path as you say, but wasn't there a report earlier that said they may have turned around? >> right. so we've heard some possibilities that it turned around in midflight. so it may be they're just expandin

cbs news aviation and safety consultant captain chesley sullenberger says it's very unusual for the triple 7 to crash midflight. >> only a small percentage of accidents happens in the cruise portion of the flight. most accidents happen in the landing or the take-off portion. >> reporter: investigators are looking into two names on the passenger list that match passports stolen in thailand. but authorities say it's too early to draw any conclusions about why the flight disappeared. alison harmelin for cbs news, new york. >> at least one of the passengers on board that flight was from texas. another is a 2-year-old. >>> the boeing 777 is a safe plane. don knapp reports on why it's so strange for one to disappear. >> reporter: the boeing 777 is one of the industry's safest airplanes. in 18 years, the 777 never had a serious incident until last summer when an asiana airliner undershot the runway at san francisco international airport crashing and leaving three dead. malaysia airlines flight 370 was flying in the safest part of the flight when it disappeared. it was cruising at altitude in good

and we'll talk to sully sullenberger about what might have been gone wrong. for the first time, the father of adam lanza talks about the sandy hook shootings and his son's mental health. >> reporter: does he blame himself in any

. >>> captain sully sullenberger, who saved passengers when he made a forced landing on the hudson riverays solving the mystery of what happened to the flight will take a long time. >> the aviation industry never really tolerates this level of ambiguity. you can be sure huge sums will be spend to solve this mystery, even though it's likely to take months or years. >> he believes the black boxes will likely be found. >>> a new study questions whether airport security is cost-effective. it concluded that those measures are not effective, and it may be time to reduce them. the numbers were calculated before a gunman killed two at l.a.x. in november, the studies coauthor said that attack doesn't change his conclusion. >>> it was two years years ago that south bay teenager sierra lamar disappeared, and hasn't been seen since. sierra was honored at one of her favorite spots. ♪ [ music ] >> another sad anniversary. >> thank you so much. >> no problem. >> it's been two years of heart ache, searching, and waiting. >> today we come together. family, friends, to honor sierra lamar. >> family, frien

air captain sully sullenberger who made that miraculous landing on the hudson river now five years ago now cbs news aviation and safety contributor. what do you make of this latest situation, should we be hopeful about this, these new images that we've seen? >> well, good morning, bob. everyone is grasping for any bit of hope. this is an extraordinary circumstance in many ways. with each passing day it makes it more challenging because of the combined affect of wind and current on what floating debris there may be. if it turns out that this debris is part of airplane which it might not then of course searchers have to work backwards for several weeks, that wind and current information to find where on the ocean floor the aircraft may be f. that's where it is. unfortunately there was some missteps made very early on. here we are three -- in to the third week of the investigation just now beginning to narrow the search that are areas as large as the united states. >> schieffer: you know, this information keeps coming out in dribs and drabs because some of it we're learning when the searc

sully sullenberger struck a flock of geese. he is now a safety expert and joins us from san francisco. captain, good morning to you. >> good morning. i wish it were under better circumstances. >> absolutely. >> this is a flightening situation. i think people are baffled. how does a plane of this size flying over land disappear? >> it's not clear to me if this was a portion of the flight where they were under constant air traffic control surveillance from the ground or between air traffic control centers. basically, they were on their own until they got to the next point where they would be observed by radar. this makes finding the aircraft more difficult. >> officials did not receive a distress call from the plane. how unusual is that? >> not terribly unusual. this harkens back to the june 1, 2009 crash of air france 447 over the south atlantic. of course that happened over the middle of a deep ocean in the middle of the night. it was some time before the wreckage was found. of course the water is deeper in the south atlantic t

no matter whether it's a supersonic dive, vertical dive into water or a chesley sullenberger gradualn the hudson, a plane of this size has got to leave some debris. everybody agrees on that. somebody will float whether seat cushions or parts of galleys or something. so that's the big conundrum here. if you don't have debris, you don't have a crash site. and so that's why investigators are starting to look at some of the data and say well maybe it didn't -- it didn't go down in the drink. >> the possibility andy pasztor of "the wall street journal" reporting that investigators are looking at the possibility -- and this would be a huge, huge development -- the plane didn't crash but landed somewhere. i'm going to ask andy pasztor of "the wall street journal" to stand by. we'll continue the breaking news right after this. (vo) you are a business pro. seeker of the sublime. you can separate runway ridiculousness... from fashion that flies off the shelves. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. and only national is ranked highes

>> well, if it was in one piece that would mean the pilot did a quiet landing like pilot sullenberger life rafts which are equipped with emergency beacons. it's that or you do a supersonic descent where the thing breaks into a million pieces. that leaves millions of tiny pieces floating around. it's hard to imagine a scenario where you ditch or crash in the ocean without a trace left. >> everybody stick around. richard and i have come up with this. you would not believe how many questions we are getting. i have got hundreds, if not thousands during this broadcast. we're going to go through the twitter feed and we're going to ask the questions that you are sending us to our experts here. make sure you #370qs. you have time to shop for car insurance today? yeah. i heard about progressive's "name your price" tool? i guess you can tell them how much you want to pay and it gives you a range of options to choose from. huh? i'm looking at it right now. oh, yeah? yeah. what's the... guest room situation? the "name your price" tool, making the world a little more progressive. >>> we're asking

obviously there's the miracle on the hudson when captain sulle sullenberger set the plane done done -- down on the river. so even that little jump that live transmission would give you on rescue efforts probably wouldn't mean anything in the end in a crash like this. >> jake ward, thank you. john gully is a former member of the national transportation safety board. john, you've talked about this for the last few days. i'm seeing you everywhere. i don't have anything special to ask you i'm going to keep with the basics if it's okay with you. i want to ask is you why we don't know more about the disappearance of this flight? >> i recently said to a friend of mine. we are measuring this accident in the eyes of the united states, or western europe, where we have multiple radars, painting every single airplane in the sky. thousands of radio antennas, we have all the latest gadgets here in the western hemisphere. this airplane was out in the south pacific. where there's not a lot of land mass. lots of little countries that cannot afford the infrastructure that we have in the west. and we're

captain sully sullenberger, great to have you here. thank you so much. >> good to be with you again. >>> a car plowed into a crowd overnight attending the south by southwest festival. it happened outside a nightclub in austin. nearly two dozen others were hurt, five critically. the driver is under arrest this morning. adam of k.i. reports from the scene. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. we're standing about two blocks from where this all came to an end at sotheby southwest. the police tape is still up. this morning, police have arrested a man they say drove through a crowd of people. >> he just ran through a bunch of people! >> where you at? >> red river. >> reporter: this was the scene just after midnight. >> everywhere you look, somebody's been hit. >> reporter: victims lining the streets just moments after a car barrelled through protective barricades, crashing into a crowd of people. >> we were waiting to get into the show, and we were, like, around the side, and all of a sudden this car just, like, driving through, li

. >>> cbs news aviation and safety expert captain sully sullenberger knows about flying a plane in theiddle of an emergency. he's in san francisco. sully, good morning. >> good morning, anthony, norah. >> good morning to you. this defies explanation. i mean, what happened to this plane? how does a boeing 777 just disappear? what problems do you think the pilots could have encountered? >> well, as bob was just saying we don't know yet. absent any hard evidence you know, no wreckage having been found, having not found the recorders yet, all causes should be on the table. it's clear though that this happened suddenly and perhaps catastrophically, and as you noted, from personal experience and from talking to others who have been in dire emergencies, i know exactly how the workload and the pressure of trying to find out what's going on can keep a crew busy when they're unable to communicate. what happened to us five years ago, with the hudson river landing, it was an advantage. we knew very early on exactly what had caused our engines to fail, the bird strike. so i didn't have to spend a l

with us here in studio 57 captain sully sullenberger known for the miracle on the hudson landing.instinct say to you, and what is the baffling about this and what are the contradictions that puzzle you? >> well what's so frustrating for all of us -- and i can only imagine how frustrating for the families of the passengers and crew -- is that we don't know very much. there is no hard evidence. we have not found any wreckage. we have not recovered and analyzed the recorders. until we do we're going to have many more questions than answers. ultimately we will find them. >> one thing you do know is what it's like to be there under stress. it is likely a pilot would issue a distress call? >> the situation that they faced may have been so overwhelming and their higher priorities of flying the airplane and trying to solve the many problems they faced are higher priorities than just communicating that they would have done later had they had the opportunity to. so the fact that they didn't indicates to me that they were either unable to or too busy until they couldn't. >> what interests me

>> well, if it was in one piece that would mean the pilot did a quiet landing like pilot sullenberger. but you would get the life rafts which are equipped with emergency beacons. it's that or you do a supersonic descent where the thing breaks into a million pieces. that leaves millions of tiny pieces floating around. it's hard to imagine a scenario where you ditch or crash in the ocean without a trace left. >> everybody stick around. richard and i have come up with this. you would not believe how many questions we are getting. i have got hundreds, if not thousands during this broadcast. we're going to go through the twitter feed and we're going to ask the questions that you are sending us to our experts here. make sure you #370qs. to truck guys, the truck is everything. and when you put them in charge of making an unbeatable truck... ... good things happen. this is the ram 1500. the 2014 motor trend truck of the year and first ever back-to-back champion. guts. glory. ram. crestor got more high-risk patients' bad cholesterol to a goal of under 100. way to go, crestor! yeah! getting to

perhaps what captain sully sullenberger encountered when he took oven countering geese.ven though low to the ground, airline intact, made the distress car letting them know what was happening and as we know successfully landed the aircraft in the hudson. >> certainly what we would hope for with anyone having trouble. we appreciate your time today and look forward to having you back. thank you. >>> president claiming obama care is cheaper than your monthly cell phone bill. is that true? as the president makes a sales pitch on daytime tv we make a check. a stop on the tracks, how this ended and what the heck the truck was doing there in the first place is a good question. march madness happening as we speak. who do you have going all the way in your bracket? tweet me your picks. we'll read picks at the end of the show. ♪ ♪ ♪ humans -- even when we cross our "t's" and dot our "i's," we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness with our auto policies. if you qualify, your rates won't go up due to your first accident. because mak

in 2009 you'll remember the miracle on the hudson captain sullenberger was able to land his airbus a-320 on the hudson river. that happened after the plane sucked a number of canada geese into its engines. the crew knew exactly what happened as soon as it happened and they knew how serious it was. >> we hit birds. we're turning toward laguardia. >> they could not get back to laguardia or any other airport. they found this nice open spot with only a little bit of traffic in the form of water taxis on the hudson river. it was a bird strike that brought down that plane. large commercial airliners have been brought down by pilots apparently committing suicide while on the job. that's believed to be the cause of this crash in 1997, a silk air flight, crashed in indonesia. pilot suicide is also thought to be the cause of an egypt air flight in 1999, both of those incidents it's contested by various people associated by the pilots, but u.s. investigators believe members of the crew of the aircraft brought them down on purpose to kill themselves, as pilots, to kill themselves along with all t

why don't we go to the nearest big airport just like sully sullenberg. he wasn't going to fly over manhattan. this guy wasn't going to fly over kuala lumpur. there's an airport that's bigger, has over-water approaches so there's no risk to people on the ground. i think this guy was trying to do the right thing and he just got overwhelmed. we can talk about a couple of other actions. one that's very curious, had to be a human in control. in 2005 we had a 737 out of cypress, a greek airline where they had a slow decompression and a flight attendant ends up taking over control of the airplane to try to save it. it's a male flight attendant. he can't do that, but they fly for 2 1/2 hours until they run out of gas. does that fit? al diehl is not saying that's what happened, but i would sure keep looking. wie just hope the united states navy gets out there with a significant number -- >> i do, too. dr. alan diehl, formerly ntsb and an faa crash investigator. thank you so much. so we're living off mystery and intrigue fumes and we kind of all are, those of us w

we are going to talk to captain sully sullenberger on the possible reasons there was no mayday call from pilots. and then seth doan, he is in china, he spoke to the girlfriend of one of the american passengers. the reason she is still holding out hope that her boyfriend is alive. and then, finally, a california pioneer in human genetics is with us in studio 57 with his plan to help people live longer and healthier live. we all want that. the news is back in the morning. we will see you at seven. >> all right. norah, thank you. >>> it is 65:71. we have a fight over francisco's waterfront and it's washing ashore. >> should the voters have to weigh in any time a developer proposed a tall building on the edge of the bay? a judge is set to hear arguments in week. we have an inside look. >> good morning. frank and michelle. imagine you are a developer and you want to build a high-rise on the waterfront. you spend millions of dollars paying architects and lawyers and getting permits and approvals from all the right city agencies. this takes years, by the way. once you are done with that it's st

sully sullenberger was a hero because of it. is that possibly what could have happened here?d our pilot mitchell join me inside the boeing 777 simulator. martin, a lot of conversation has been going today towards how to ditch an aircraft in water. if you're in crisis and have no communications, can you bring a plane down if you're low on fuel and save the people on board? can you walk me through that with mitch? >> we can. you know, warn you we're not experts, either one of us, on that particular. but we can give you an idea of what it would feel like in the aircraft, what the aircraft might be doing. we can't take you all the way down to the water because this won't simulate it and even if we did out of respect of families who might be watching, we won't do it. we're actually over the southern indian ocean, that's all programmed in. remember, we're trying to emulate 370 as much as we know. we're about currently 906 nautical miles southwest of perth. so we're in the rough area of that debris. if you would just take us down lower. we're going to go from, where are we at? we're

sullenberger landed without any warning. >> what will strike people that is quite bizarre and will being, you have these black boxes that just got better and better over the years, why is there nothing inside them that can simply direct something back to them? >> oh, it is, but when you're under water, you rely on the pinger, in the sky, the radar. and it's down there. >> bill nye, thank you very much. we appreciate it. we'll be right back. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day women's 50+. but when we start worrying about tomorrow, we miss out on the things that matter today. ♪ at axa, we offer advice and help you break down your insurance goals into small, manageable steps. because when you plan for tomorrow, it helps you live

we saw that in the miracle on the hudson with sully sullenberger. that could be on the co-pilot.cal systems occurred. that's not unprecedented. in 1996, a value jet out of miami took off. they had a fire on board down in the cargo hold. that in the ntsb report showed a progressive failure of flight controls and electronics. this is not without precedence. it could have happened. if that had happened, the autopilot would have been destroyed also and this would be an airplane with no pilots and no autopilot and it would be out of control. if the pilots had a situation where they ran out of gas, like sullen burg are, they could have collided that aircraft to safety or at least tried to get it to safety. >> we want to look at what folks on twitter are asking. we thought we would put some questions to you guys. we'll ask one question from the viewer. assuming the transponder and acars were disconnected deliberately, is it possible the recorders would have been switched off zoo. could they be turned off manually from inside the plane. >> according to these guys, they had advised me, th

structure on the ocean, obviously different on an ocean than in a river as sully sullenberger famously here? >> depends on who's flying if it's the autopilot or human being. if it's the autopilot and it's set for a specific speed and altitude, the autopilot will desperately try to maintain both as long as it can even as the engines run dry. what happens as it does that is the nose just starts pitching upward to about a 40-degree upward pitch. that's not a good situation for any aircraft, you can imagine. so then the autopilot gives up. and what we've seen in the simulators is that the aircraft goes down tail first. that could go a couple of ways. that would lead you to believe that it would be landing hitting the water at a relatively slow speed having stalled out. now, if somebody were actually flying it down, the airplane could glide down and, in essence, you can perform a ditching. but it's pretty hard to ditch in the water at night. so i can't -- i'm not exactly sure at that time after that much flying if they were in daylight conditions or darkness. that would be a key thing. >> n

airways pilot sully sullenberger pulled off the seemingly impossible, safely landing his packed passenger jet in one piece on the hudson river. most of the time, though, the wreckage is not in one piece. debris scatters, some of it sinking, some of it floating. >> life jackets could be in there. seat cushions. anything in the bins that floated. so it's certainly possible that substantial pieces of lightweight debris, not aircraft structure, could be found floating six days if the aircraft struck the water. >> reporter: air france flight 447 crashed into the atlantic ocean in 2009. in this case, floating debris led search crews to the wreckage five days after it went down. the debris field was relatively contained. that shows it broke up when it hit the water before it sank 2 1/2 miles to the ocean floor. in 1996, twa flight 800 exploded in the sky near new york. debris scattered far and wide. investigators had to map out several debris fields. the cockpit sank, but the fuselage and wings scattered far because of how high up the plane was when it exploded. >> initial pieces of floating deb

why investigators are taking a closer look at the pilots today plus captain sully sullenberger is inemotional and physical stresses on flying a plane especially on an international red eye flight. and we'll introduce you to the mastermind behind oakland-based pandora. how he became one of the most powerful people in music. the news is back in the morning. we'll see you at 7:00. frank and michelle, back to you two. >> all right, thank you. >>> time now for kpix 5's roberta gonzales out in some mighty breezy conditions. mobile weather lab, roberta. >> wind was a big concern for yesterday's fire. you can tell that it's still windy out there. >> reporter: frank and michelle, yes. in the overnight hours, we had wind gusts up to 53 miles per hour right here in dublin in the eastern portion of the bay area. weather a concern fighting the china basin fire yesterday. so this morning i called on earlier chief of special operations at the alameda county fire department and here's what he had to say. when you saw that huge plume of smoke over china basin yesterday, five-alarm fire, what were you

sully sullenberger's miraculous water landing of us airways flight 1549 on the hudson river in 2009.return of missing children thought long dead like elizabeth smart on the three women plucked from a cleveland basement after being snatched a decade earlier make it hard to argue that those families should just give up hope. even when our rational minds tell us there's little hope to be had. the world loves a mystery. but as we continue to cover flight 370, we should all keep in mind that at the end of this fascinating story are 239 families for whom this is a very real and very personal agony. that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you back here tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern. be sure to visit us online at "thereidreport.msnbc.com. coming up next, "the cycle." >> all our thoughts are with the families right now. we're spending the entire hour on new developments on this missing plane. we've got it offered from all angles, pilots, fbi folks, a psychologist to talk about what these families are going through. it's going to be a special edition of "the cycle" next. >> indeed

we don't anticipate a sully sullenberger style hudson river landing is possible. all, you're in the middle of the ocean. it's wavy out there. i don't know. what's left over is confusing and leads to all kinds of stuff i don't want to get into. you know? because i don't know anything. it just seems wrong. >> right. if you're running an investigation and you're a little perplexed at this point is where you really go back and take a look at what you missed and maybe you made some leaps that you should have made on what you were told early on. you really have to go back and source what you have. >> i mean, it's -- oh, yeah. thank you. it's very hard to imagine that this thing could have flown over land and not been noticed by anybody. but now the folks in thailand come up today and say oh, yeah, we saw the thing in the air and forgot to tell you for 11 days. no clue. >> i think absolutely there's more radar data out there to be had. i think that's an indicator of more to be found in countries that either don't know they have it or they don't know how to figure out wha

about, because here, i can't help but think about the day i was on the air and a man named sully sullenbergerthe plane on the hudson. is there a chance this aircraft, it went down, it landed safely and radar was not -- radar didn't pick that up. air traffic control didn't pick that up. something happened to the controls on the plane where no communication could be had? >> well, anything is possible but in a situation like this you're talking about more likelihoods and more probabil y probabilities than extreme possibilities. if this plane was ditched into the ocean that would have still enabled enough time for a radio call unless all of the electronics and all of the power that took out the radios and the tra transponder, mind you, and a transponder is what allows ground control to track an airplane. you would have thought that would be a remote possibility as well. but now it is daylight there in the south pacific. southeast asia, and they know what the intended flight path was. they're not going to be waiting too long to go along that intended flight path. and if you had had an airplane and

sully sullenberger's landing in the river was a very rare event where the airplane didn't physically into a lot of smaller pieces. that was because it was under full control in daylight on calm water. and he was able to get the airplane very much slowed down. it was a nice piece of flying. but the -- for an airplane like a 777 to hit the water, it's got to break into a lot of small pieces. and then sink. most of those are going to sink to the floor. some will float. that's the debris field. the floating debris field that we're looking for right now. >> and, john, do you think as a result of this incident, there's going to be a rethinking of capabilities like being able to turn off the transponder manually in flight? and a retrofitting of planes so that they do have more modern technology? >> well, i think there's going to be discussion about it. but there are -- there are reasons to have the transponder be able to be switched off. and, remember, we don't know that that transponder was switched off. we know that it ceased to function. was that an interruption of electrical power? was