captain sullenberger. thanks so much for being with us. >> good to be with you, breanna. >> i know you certainly have studied and heard all of the information that we're getting about air asia flight 8501 at this point. can you walk us through? i think i want to look at it and walk us through the procedure to deal with this. >> there is strategic weather avoidance, and tactical weather avoidance. the airline dispatcher who helps the pilots plan the flight would be looking at the best route of flight to avoid weather as much as possible. the piles, once they reviewed the flight information would want to make sure that they can operate the flight safely and then the tactical weather avoidance happens during the flight as they look at weather ahead of them and whether it's visually out the cockpit windows or on the onboard weather radar. the investigators will be looking at how adequate the information was provided to the dispatcher and the pilots was. what alternative flights might there have been? how good

we have reports from deborah patta and jeff pegues plus captain sully sullenberger on the type of plane one he is very familiar with. a ferry disaster off the coast of greece. fire leaves it stranded and more than 300 trapped. carter evans details a difficult rescue effort. >> federal lawmakers have signed off on a new kind of savings account that awards not interest but prize money. jill schlesinger explains. and new technology meets the new testament. allen pizzey on the nano -- >> this is the captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> jeff: hi, everyone, i'm jeff glor. and the first full day of searching is under way. crews are looking for airasia flight 8501 which has now been missing for more than 24 hours. teams from at least three different countries are involved. 162 people were on 8501 including 17 children. the search zone is in the java sea in between surabaya indonesia, where the plane took off and sing more-- singapore its intended destination. we have a series of reports. a terrible nine months facing malaysia we begin with deborah pat

we'll talk to captain sullenberger who landed on the hudson river in 2009. plus new york city mourns the death of rafael ramos killed on duty while sitting in his squad car along with his partner as city braces for moring a irrelevant and possible attacks against the police what can be done to ease tensions in new york city and around the country. we'll talk to william bratton the commissioner of the new york city police department and former new york city mayor rudy guiliani and update on the ebola preparedness with the coordinator ron klain all that plus bob schieffer's interview with laura hillenbrand author of "unbroken" the story of louis who survived world war ii plane crash was captured tortured for two years in japanese prison camp. "unbroken" is now a major motion picture. hillenbrand tell us how her battle with rare disease helped her write his story. >> when he was talking about really suffering, i knew something about what that felt like. i think it enabled him to open up. >> garrett: and special look back at 60 years of news on "face the nation.

more hours than chesley sullenberger who executed the landing on the hudson. the captain of the airasia likely had about the same skill set based on his experience based on an author. >> he would have been just as competent to perform the miracle on the hudson. >> reporter: what we don't know is what happened in the cockpit before the plane went off radar. the potential clues include the presence of bad weather in the area and the request to increase altitude, which was denied because of additional air traffic close by. what the captain may have done with that information is still an open question. for example, whether the pilot may have tried to disregard the controller's guidance. >> what disturbs me is did he begin a climb without a clearance from air traffic control, that might be indicative of an emergency problem developing. >> reporter: there was also no known communication before it went on off radar. not necessarily a radio malfun shun. >> we're trained early on to navigate and communicate being the last thing. if indeed the contributing factor was th

more hours than chesley sullenberger who executed the landing on the hudson. the captain of the airasia plane likely had about the same skill set based on his experience according to author les abend. >> he would have been just as competent to perform the miracle on the hudson. >> reporter: what we don't know is what happened in the cockpit before the plane went off radar. the potential clues include the presence of bad weather in the area and the request to increase altitude radioed to air traffic control, which was denied because of additional air traffic close by. what the captain may have done with that information is still an open question. for example, whether the pilot may have tried to disregard the controller's guidance. >> what disturbs me is did he begin a climb without a clearance from air traffic control, that might be indicative of an emergency problem developing. >> reporter: there was also no known communication before it went on off radar. not necessarily a radio malfunction. >> we're trained early on to aviate, navigate and communicate being

we have captain chesley sullenberger sully, the pilot behind the miracle on the hudson.we're going to talk to him about how what the pilots maybe should have done here because a lot of experts are wondering if this plane didn't stall and we're also going to talk to him about whether pilots should be better trained when it comes to flying really not relying so much on automation and what they could have done. he had the obvious benefit of immediate help after he landed that plane on the hudson river and it's been days since this has happened. so we're going to ask him about that and whether these planes should be monitored and we'll also talk to a spokesperson about the u.s. navy about resources headed in that direction. >> looking for it on the situation room with brianna keilar. i like the southbound ofnd of that. millions of you will opt for uber and god bless, but that ride might cost you more than usual. why uber is hiking prices tonight and what the extra charges might mean for the coverage tigz and competition and that's next on our money lead. narrator: these are

remember sullenberger sucked up birds canadian geese and lost both engines. we've had aircraft go down because they ingested hail. it's very rare but thunder storms have hail so this aircraft may be intact floating as i explained earlier, it does have what's called a ditching switch which allows this air bus, this unique air bus to we' developments here. >> no doubt. as you talk about previous accidents that have involved air craft inhaling hail, has that ever involved an air bus 320 to the best of your knowledge. >> i haven't checked the database. it was a d.c. 9 that crashed near atlanta back in 1977 that i worked on shortly after joining the national transportation safety board. a double flame out because it ingested hail. literally destroyed or damaged the engines so they couldn't get a start kind of like sullenberger with the birds going into the engines. i don't know. i frankly kind of doubt -- i think there have been 21 major incidents with air bus 320. i don't recall any of those involving hail ingestion. the investigators look at all of this. the key

we have reports from deborah patta and jeff pegues plus captain sully sullenberger on the type of plane one he is very familiar with. a ferry disaster off the coast of greece. fire leaves it stranded and more than 300 trapped. carter evans details a difficult rescue effort. >> federal lawmakers have signed off on a new kind of savings account that awards not interest but prize money. jill schlesinger explains. and new technology meets the new testament. allen pizzey on the nano -- >> this is the

and this is of course the same kind of aircraft that sully sullenberg landed in the hudson with. he didn't have time to throw the switch but the aircraft will float. so there might possibly be a good outcome. we don't know that this aircraft broke up in flight like the air algier flight. or in the case of the air france crash in 2009 that derek mentioned, that aircraft was flown into the water. one small correction, the engines didn't fail. the pilots just misinterpreted the data and literally flew the aircraft at 12 -- 11,000 feet per minute into the atlantic ocean. obviously, that aircraft disintegrated. we found debris floating right after the -- you know, within days they located debris on the aircraft accident. >> alan, i heard you say something earlier about -- we'll move off the weather in a moment because weather a factor in the area. weather believes perhaps to be the reason he or she, whoever the pilot is, for the deviation. but i heard you say that an airplane at these levels, we are talking about ace, can inject hail and could possibly therefore go down intact. >> wel

we will talk to our aviation expert doctor chessly sullenberger. in there is that air bus 320, the very same kind of aircraft that captain sullenberger miraculously landed safely in 2009 on the hudson river. we will also continue conversation nationally about police tactics justice brutality, with new york city police commissioner william bratton and former mayor rudy guiliani. we will update the global and u.s. response to ebola whether the white how's bowl a a coordinator ron klain. if you have seen unbroken, you might want to stay opportunity for lauren hillbrant because she wrote the best selling book that set all that in motion. all that coming up next on face the nation. >> major garrett in for bob schieffer this morning. thanks major, appreciate it. >>> 8:41. still to come, a cloudy start this sunday but temperatures are mild, so that is some good news but it will not stick around. carol will explain coming up. >>> also kicking and punching caught on cameras a fight at a pennsylvania mall gets so violent that some stores had to shut down ear

by the way, the a-320, it's my understanding, is the same type of aircraft that sully sullenberger landedthe hudson however, we have night and day conditions. >> yeah. that is the case right, les? >> a-320s. >> it absolutely is. >> all right. more questions, more of your questions answered by our expert panel after a quick break right here. ♪ ah, push it. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ push it. ♪ ♪ p...push it real good! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ ♪ oooh baby baby...baby baby. ♪ if you're salt-n-pepa, you tell people to push it. ♪ push it real good. ♪ it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. ♪ if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance you switch to geico. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. ♪ i'm pushing. i'm pushing it real good! i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because it gives me... zero heartburn! prilosec otc. the number 1 doctor-recommended frequent heartburn medicine for 9 straight years. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. >>> back with our continuing coverage of that airline that disappeared, airasia flight 8501. we continue to c

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>> well, i would think that a sullenberger style or miracle on the hudson style landing is probably the least likely scenario in all of the scenarios that we could project with regard to this aircraft weapon we're talking about two different bodies of water, the hudson river, although it has a swift current, is a reasonably calm body of water. with shores that are within visual proximity of one another. even in the fact that miracle on the hudson, they were not able to reach that portion of the checklist in which the bottom of the aircraft was sealed prior to the landing. and the aircraft did float for a period of time. in the case of air asia, we had severe weather conditions at the time. and this severe weather condition would produce, would be expected to produce at minimum gail force to gusts of low hurricane force winds. in a shallow sea, what we would see is very rough waters that would make -- >> anthony, we're going to have to leave it there. i want to thank you so much, anthony brown, who's been covering the story with us. thank you for the latest, we'll continue to cover the q

they could pull it off as indeed your great captain sullenberger did in new york.raft no doubt, lost control, or something of that nature. we cannot know yet. it would not have been something which is planned by the looks of the whole incident. i don't think this was a planned descent on to water. >> no mayday call. we will know when they find and hear from the voice data recorder what was happening on the flight deck. alastair thank you. breaking news in the search for missing airasia flight 8501. debris found in the sea. live team coverage after the break. huh, fif utes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yeah, everybody knows that. well, did you know that playing cards with kenny rogers gets old pretty fast? ♪ you got to know when to hold'em. ♪ ♪ know when to fold 'em. ♪ ♪ know when to walk away. ♪ ♪ know when to run. ♪ ♪ you never count your money, ♪ ♪ when you're sitting at the ta...♪ what? you get it? i get the gist yeah. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. let me get this straight... [ female v

. >> captain sullenberger would say he would have been just as xenl to perform the miracle on the hudson what we don't sng what happened in the cockpit before the plane went off radar. the includes include the prengs of bad weather in the area and the request to increase altitude radioed to air traffic control which was denied because of additional air traffic close by. what the captain may have done with that information is still an open question. for example, whether the pilot may have tried to disregard the controller's guidance. >> what disturbs me is that did he begin a climb without a clearance from air traffic control? that might be indicative of an emergency problem developing. >> there was also no known communication before it went off radar. not necessarily a radio malfunction. >> we're trained very, very early on to i have a great and navigate and communicate being the last thing. because communicating in this particular circumstance if indeed a contributing factor was the weather, the less people would be able to help you was air traffic control. >> the captain is a former mi

slightly more flying time than pilot chesley sullenberger who executed a water landing in new york withsengers and crew on board. all survived. the captain of the airasia plane had about the same skillset based on his experience. >> captain sullenberger would say he would have been just as competent to perform the miracle on the hudson. >> reporter: what we don't know is what happened in the cockpit before the plane went off radar. the clues include the presence of bad weather in the area and the request to increase altitude which was denied because of additional air traffic close by. what the traffic may have done with that information is an open question. for example, whether the pilot may have disregarded the controller's guidance. >> what disturbs me is did he begin a climb without clearance. that might be indicative of an emergency problem developing. >> reporter: there was also no known communication before it went off radar. not necessarily a radio malfunction. >> we're trained very early on to aviate navigate and communicate being the last thing. communicating in this situation

we saw that captain sullenberg er set this down safely, and we can hold out some small hope, but it ist is to be that they don't want to be isolated and boxed up and put in jail. and when they are taken to the hotel and fed and housed and everything, the investigators do need to make sure they are right there with them, and giving them the information they need and don't make them feel like they have been put in prison. >> let's hope it is happening, and it is hard to get the information of what is happen, but let's hope that it is happening and this time it is a lot better. we are will need to take a break, but stay with us for continuing coverage. hey! i guess we're going to need a new santa ♪(the music builds to a climax.) more people are coming to audi than ever before. see why now is the best time. audi will cover your first month's payment on select models at the season of audi sales event. visit audioffers.com today. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in

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hours were with airasia on the airbus 320, by comparison slightly more flying time than pilot sullenberger back in 2009 with 155 passengers and crew on board all survived. at least in terms of experience he would likely have developed a pretty good skill set by now. >> and he's flown this particular plane before? >> absolutely. for 6100 hours, in fact. that's a lot of flying time. now, as far as his family goes i can tell you a little bit about that as well. we understand according to some of the limited reporting so far, he has two kids. it's been widely reported that they recent lie experienced a loss his father told the bbc his son the captain's brother had recently died of diabetes and the last time they were together was at the funeral, in fact. >> so sad. then we have this heartbreaking tweet from the captain's daughter that i just want to put up for our viewers. it reads data please come home i still need you. please return dad. dad, come home dad. you have to come home. it puts into perspective the feelings these families are feeling at the moment. joe johns we appreciate your repo

we'll talk to captain sullenberger who landed on the hudson river in 2009.ng with his partner as city braces for moring a irrelevant and possible attacks against the police what can be done to ease tensions in new york city and around the country. we'll talk to william bratton the commissioner of the new york city police department and former new york city mayor rudy guiliani and update

everybody talks about captain sullenberger and jeffrey styles who landed on the hudson but it was calm water, clear day. they were both trained in water landing. most pilots are not. that's a very rare circumstance. it will be very important to get out there and start searching. both countries have to cooperate. air bus will be sending assets to aid in the search because it's an air bus plane. >> mary do stand by for us. it is very good to have you with us at this time as we try to piece together the information has coming in to us. it is coming in to us very slowly. let me reset that an air indonesia flight is reported missing. this is a flight that set off from indonesia and was making the way to singapore where air traffic controllers lost contact with the air craft at 7:24 a.m. that is what we're hearing. that is what cnn is being told. we're told that the pilot reportedly requested an unusual route before the plane lost contact. we also got information saying the plane had asked to fly at higher altitude to avoid clouds. this is a developing story. that has not yet been con confir

captain sully sullenberger successfully landed the plane on the hudson river.ved. miguel marquez, cnn, new york. >> back with me now, matthew wald mary schiavo, tim taylor, jeff wise and les abend. you said you don't like the word safe. >> no. safer. >> why is that? >> safe is a -- it's either safe or it isn't safe. it's -- it leads people to assume things. >> that something is 100% -- >> and nothing's ever 100%. >> fail-safe. or failproof. let's dig deeper and talk about this airbus a320. how safe is it? i have to use that word. >> these planes are workhorses. i mean they go up they come down, they're in the air more often than not. the thing that ages an aircraft isn't how much time it spends in the air. it's really what they call a cycle, how many times it lands and takes off. that's what puts the stress on the frame. this thing was six years old. it was considered young. they can take an enorls amount -- they're built very robustly. they're very solid. and if you look at the number of flights that take place every single day around the world compared to the

captain sully sullenberger tells us why it's different this time.t's ahead. >>> go gunmen opened fire on a police patrol unprovoked. part of los angeles under a tactical alert. the two gunmen with rifles fired at officers last night in southern los angeles. officers did return fire. police have one suspect in custody but say another is on the run. none of the saers were hurt. >>> and new york police are winning more high profile support. giants coach tom coughlin wore an nypd ahh during sunday's matchup with the eagles. players players wore warmup shirts that said "peace." but they're not getting support from city hall. >> good morning. bill de blasio's support of new york's finest was never anything but lukewarm at best. and it has now pushed that relationship near the breaking pound. >> reporter: streets were turned into a sea of blue on saturday in trib putte to officer rafael ramos. >> our hearts are aching today. >> reporter: but as mayor bill de blasio addressed the mourners, many officers outside turned away. new york police commissioner bill

it's about upkeep and as sully sullenberger says no matter how the plane is made there's always the humanthis week let's face it. but if you're flying within asia, there are a lot of airlines that you might be connected to. it might be a good idea to consult this list to should which have been banned. now, a lot of airlines banned actually got their act together and they're you need to update that list as well. >> let's talk about the wreckage and and they've recovered dozens of bodies. do you think we'll pretty quickly of what caused this crash? >> yeah the lesson of flight 370 is you can't find a needle in the haystack if you can't find the haystack. it's in relatively shallow water. remember, the black box gives you the last two hours of recorded conversation in an airplane cockpit. this happens within 48 minutes of takeoff. we're going to find out once they get that black box, the actual chain of events. >> thank you very much. >>> passengers are flying from las vegas to london this morning, one day after a scary emergency landing. look at this video, it shows virgin atlantic plane a

but we know how dangerous they can be, remembering the landing in the hudson by captain sully sullenberger. george? >> jim, thanks. no matter the cause, what a sad, sad story. >> very tragic. >>> turn now to the massive fire that destroyed an apartment building in los angeles and shut down traffic on two freeways. firefighters now trying to determine if it was set intentionally. brandi hitt is in l.a. with the very latest. good morning, brandi. >> reporter: good morning, lara. this morning, we have learned 20 federal agents and specialists will soon be joining this fire investigation. flames burning so hot this morning, we have seen firefighters still putting out hot spots, 24 hours later. from fighting this inferno, to now sifting through the rubble, this morning fire investigators are trying to determine whether this wall of fire engulfing an entire block of downtown los angeles -- >> heavy fire. multiple floors. >> reporter: -- is the work of an arsonist. >> it's all just about the level of involvement that concerns us. >> downtown l.a. on fire. i can feel the heat. >> reporter: red hot

. >> and this is the same aircraft that sully sullenberger landed on the hudson. >> you hope so. >> gosh hope so, 162 people on board. airasia flight 8501 vanishing now about 14 hours ago over the pacific. >> the plane reportedly flying in some nasty storms. joining us now, fox contributor robert mark and fox news aviation analyst mike boyd. guys monsoons we know monsoons come all the time in that area. the pilots in this particular case, the pilot had over 20,000 hours. you know we keep hearing how everything was normal which in my mind makes the whole thing more frightening. what was abnormal? what could have been abnormal about this situation? mike. >> well, weather is never normal. things can happen in the sky. airplanes have been torn out of the sky on the path not very often with weather like this. mistake res maek made and sometimes things aren't seen. so this is a piece of metal in the sky and things can happen. but it happens so rarely that that is why we're on fox news talking about it. >> very interesting point. i want to get your take on this, as well in the sense that most a