sullivan at the buzzer. frankie sullivan at the buzzer!nd the auburn tigers with a big kick of momentum as they head into the locker room. >> daymeon: shot by frankie sullivan. but i tell you what, he is a guy who put up 21 a game at daytona beach in the tournament and a big shot that time. but i tell you, if you are auburn, you can't get too excited. you are still down two points and virginia really dominated the first half. it will be interesting to see what happens coming out of the second half, matt. >> matt: fannie mae sullivan the in up one three-point shooter on this auburn team nails the three as the horn sounds. and virginia who led for most of the first half still does but their lead only two as they go to the locker room. ( thumping ) ( rhythmic clapping ) ( chanting ) ( shouting ) gatorade-- that's "g." >> matt: and we are back halftime at the beard-eaves coliseum on the campus of auburn university. virginia with a 34-32 lead at halftime. but it was five and now it is two because frankie sullivan nailed one right before the hor

sullivan, reed and waller. 6'2" and 63. landesberg will have an opportunity to post up just like you saw on the last play. >> matt: landesberg with his first three points of the ballgame. reed splits the defense. gives it to hargrove. jeff lebo says reed and hargrove have to have big games for auburn to have a chance to win. back iran and the rebound is pulled down by landesberg. he will force it up the floor. landesberg working against sullivan. five points for landesberg. and he is off to a great start. and a whistle and foul called on mustapha farrakhan of the virginia cavaliers. >> daymeon: farrakhan is known as the best defender on virginia's team. they said he is probably the most talented. it will be an interesting matchup seeing him go against dewayne reed. >> foul will be called on auburn, i believe. >> daymeon: auburn in the past has gotten called for quite a few moving screens, guys that you look at johnnie and even knox, nyes that come -- guys that come off the bench. >> lelett was the one whistled for the foul.

sullivan. he was sworn in as the 22nd director of the united states secret service on may 31, 2006. mr. sullivan has been the recipient of numerous awards for superior performance throughout his 26-year tenure with the secret service, including a distinguished presidential rank award in 2005. welcome, mr. sullivan. i thank you for being here today. without objection, the witnesses full statement will be inserted in the record now i. now i ask mr. sullivan to summarize his opening statement in five minutes. >> thank you. good morning. the u.s. secret service is an organization that maintains deep pride in the work it does on behalf of our nation. based on the high standards to which the men and women of this agency hold themselves and the standards that the nation expects, i regret, on tuesday november 24, established protocols and procedures were not followed. it allowed to individuals to enter into the white house. this was brought to my attention on wednesday november 25. i immediately direct

mark sullivan. mr. sullivan was sworn in as that's what he said attractor of the united states secret service on may 31, 2006. mr. sullivan has been the recipient of numerous awards for superior performance throughout his 26 year tenure with the secret service. included a distinguished presidential rank award in 2005. welcome, mr. sullivan, and thank you for being here today. without objection, the witnesses full statement will be inserted in the record. i will now ask director sullivan to summarize his statement for five minutes. >> thank you, chairman. good morning chairman thompson, ranking member king, and other distinguished members of the committee. the u.s. secret service is an organization that maintains deep-fried for the work it does on behalf of our nation. based on a high standards which the men and women of this agency holds themselves, and the standards the nation expects, i regret on tuesday, november 24, established protocols and procedures were not followed. allowing to individual entry

sullivan. i recognize myself for the beginning portion. erector sullivan, let me be clear that all of us there is no question about it. our oversight responsibility though when situations like this occur we have to do our job. .. at the white house any point? at the state dinner. >> at this event we had a three vehicle checkpoints and we had two pedestrian checkpoints. >> okay, and each checkpoint to those individuals have lists of the guests that would be in attendance? >> yes, they did chairman. >> the two individuals in question, the salahis, were any of them on the list? >> favor not. >> and is your testimony before us today that they should not have been allowed entrance to this event because they were not on the list? >> that is, correct. >> for the record if an individual is not on a list what is the procedure? >> the procedure would be they should not be allowed entry. at that point, for this particular event the protocol would be that that officer should contact their immediate supervi

sullivan for being here today. first let me begin by saying i think the secret service does a great job and it saddens me to see that there was such a lapse this time at the white house in the past i know there's always been close communication between the social secretary for the white house, legislative -- legislative affairs for example if we are going to have congress people come for the christmas party, and every single time that i have entered the white house there has always been somebody from the presidents -- from the white house at the very first point before you ever even get to the checkpoint where they check your purses, etc.. every time even if it's just been a meeting with the president over a particular policy there has always been somebody out there. my question -- the first question is in this pre-planning meeting did you all decide no one would be specifically assigned from the social secretary's office or legislative affairs or what have you at the first checkpoint? was that a decision made? bec

. >> andy sullivan of reuters. >> senator you picked up a fair amount of support for this proposal so the latest count 35 sponsors and cosponsors. how do you convince the rest to give up some of their authority if you're in a pro creator or tax writer you'd be handing over a fair chunk of what you to do to this commission. >> good question. what we say to them is that going through the regular order, the normal committee process has not and will not address a challenge of this dimension. and i think we know in history that when we have come to something of this significance, we have had to look to a special procedure. in the 80's we did that with social security. that was a commission. of course, we also adopted a special procedure with the summit that was at andrews air force base that came back with a bipartisan plan to put the country back on track when we were then facing record deficits. the situation now is far more acute than in either of those circumstances because the baby boom generation is poised to retire and that fundamentally change everything. we no longer have time to

thank you, director sullivan, for being here. i truly appreciate your service and the service of those who serve in your agency. and listening to my friends, the congressmen, i'm very impressed by your willingness to take responsibility for this incident. but, you know, i never, ever expected, you know -- we always expect the secret service to take a bullet for the president. we don't expect the secret service to take a bullet for the president's staff. and, you know, i think we have to have a discussion here about that issue. that clearly there are issues of collaboration and coordination that were not up to the high expectations that i know you have for your agency and that we all have. and so it's critical that we hear from the social office on this. but my main question, director sullivan is this, there has been much discussion about the planning meeting and who recommended that no representative from the social office be at the initial checkpoints. and given your 26 years of experience, would you have made such a recommendat

mark sullivan. mr. sullivan was sworn in as the 22nd director of the united states secret service on may 31, 2006. mr. sullivan has been the recipient of numerous awards for superior performance throughout his 26 year tenure with the secret service. including a distinguished presidential rank award in 2005. welcome mr. sullivan. i thank you for being here to debate. without objection the witnesses full statement will be inserted in the record. i am now asking director sullivan to summarize his statement for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. good morning chairman tom thompson, and other distinguished members of the committee. the secret service is an organization that maintains the pride in the work it does on behalf of our nation. based on the high standards to which the men and women of this agency hold themselves and in the standards of the nation expects, i regret on tuesday november 24 the established protocols and procedures were t followed here at allowing two individuals entering into the

let's listen to mark sullivan being asked the question a lot of people want the answer to. why? >> how in the world could this couple get passed the secret service without having their names on the list, without having their socials in advance, and get right up to the president of the united states? >> sir, i asked myself that question a thousand times over the last week. what we keep coming back to here is that procedures weren't followed. again, when we have found is when we pold the procedures, when we -- when we go by the protocols we have, these type of situations don't occur. >> larry: let's get into it with the panel to kick things off conk congressman bennie thompson. in washington, as well, anita mcbride, former chief of staff to first lady laura bush. in chicago, laura schwartz, former white house director of events during the clinton administration. good to see her again. joe pea throw, former secret service agent, author of the great book "standing next to history." all right, congressman thompson. what did you learn today? >> well, larry, we learned that procedures

. >> we continue this conversation with andy sullivan. is this commission going to happen? >> i am not the whip of the senate, so i can give you an actual vote count. but it does look like this is becoming more an issue of concern for the public that is exerting aggressively on lawmakers. >> i tend to agree. i think speaker pelosi recently started to talk more favorably, even though she has still some reservations about the details. that bodes well for the area. the administration is also showing signs -- that bodes well for the idea. the administration is also showing signs that suggest they are actively considering it. they have concerns about how politically achievable all of the goals really are. but they are all coming around. >> but is it a commission that is our view think will have real political muscle and the ability to rein in spending? >> if the members of the commission of the people that senator conrad describes, the many folks in congress, the people who oversee the riding of taxes and the spending of that money, then it does stand chance. those are people wi

fight that they're having so many of them rational conservative intellectuals departing like andrew sullivan and david frum. he's definitely positioning himself as far away from rush limbaugh as he can. these are all dangerous signs. but as i said, they are dangerous signs for both parties. >> arianna huffington of the huffington post. thanks for being with us tonight. >>> for a short time today, there was tri-partisan agreement on health care reform, until senator lieberman opened his mouth and exposed yet again that he doesn't know what he's talking about. that and the democrats expose republican hypocrisy over the public option. >>> our guest, senator sherrod brown and former governor howard dean. later, another day, another bad headline tiger woods ahead. (announcer) we call it the american renewal. because we believe in the strength of american businesses. ge capital understands what small businesses need to grow and create jobs. today, over 300,000 businesses rely on ge capital for the critical financing they need to help get our economy back on track. the american renewal is happening

>> larry: as ed sullivan used to say, get all the kids up close now. here she is, olive.sentingol all of the other reindeer. >> these are the jacksons. they raise them and also called a caribou. anita does a great job with this animal. the female and male, one of the few deer species that both have antlers. both the male and female. she loses the antlers after the male. that's to protect -- >> larry: is that a she? >> that's a she, yes. you've heard of rudolph the red-nosed reindeer? >> larry: heard of him, yeah. >> the reason they go click, click, click, up on the red top, click, click, click, those feet have cartilage in them. every step, it talks. it's not the roof. all the kids watching, this is what brings santa claus to your house and down the chimney. this is the female, really rudolph could have been, right, anita, a female? >> uh-huh. >> because the male had already lost his antlers. that's just a tale. tail. i want all the kids to think this is one of santa's reindeer and she'll have to go back and get ready for a long, long trip around the world for christmas.

russell sullivan, baucus chief of staff, met with a block of 20 members of staff including several baucusaides who have made a nice transition, and they said you have to let your clients know if they have someone there, it will be viewed as a democratic act said a democratic lobbyist who attended the meeting. going will say i'm interesting in working with republicans to stop health care reform, the lobbyist added. and phrma, the new york sometimes, again, my favorite, we need tauzin -- tauzin, the $5 million per year representative of phrma -- if you -- who is ever going to get into a deal with the white house again if they don't keep their word? they are just going to duke it out instead. they cut a deal. so that's, again, an answer to the senator from montana. that's probably how he got the letter, the same way tauzin wrote his letter. minority leader. senator, do you have anything? >> i have never had so many people spontaneously stop me in the airport and say, please stop this bill. i'm sure there are people in kentucky who are for it. i have not met one. there must be a doctor in ken

. >> larry: as ed sullivan used to say, get all the kids up close now. is, or she is, olive. representing in rudolph's honor all of the other reindeer. >> these are the jacksons. they raise the reindeer, also called the caribou. it's very important to know that. they are by the tens of thousands whurks see the big caribou migration up north. anita does a great job with this animal. the female and male, one of the few deer species that both have antlers. the male and the female. and she lose these antlers after the male. that's to protect -- >> larry: is that a she? >> that's a she, yes. you've heard of rudolph the red-nosed reindeer? >> larry: heard of him, yeah. >> the reason they go click, up at the top, click, click, click, is those feet there have little cartilage in the feet and they click as it walks. and that's how you've got the song. it's not you hit the roof it clicks. all the kids watching. this is what brings santa claus to your house and down the chimn chimney. rudolph could have been a female. because rudolph lost his antlers. but that's ju

director sullivan testified before our committee today that meetings were held before the eve event. have been nice if someone had been there. but the fact is that this husband and wife couple never made any list. they should not have gained entry into the white house. whether the social secretary or that staffer would be around still would be no reason of concern because they were not on any list. >> larry: anita, is it standard for the social secretary to go to the dinner? >> certainly the social secretary needs to be at the dinner because they are the eyes and ears for everything that's going on, making sure that the event is going off flawlessly. and executed the way that the president and first lady wanted it to be. you know, there have been times in the past where if last-minute emergency, a guest, doesn't come for dinner where the social secretary will take, you know, take that seat, and be seated at the dinner. but, you know, clearly, they have to be there. they have to be available. >> larry: did the bush white house ever fear strangers getting in? >> no. i think that when y

senator baucus' staff, liz fowler and russ sullivan and john sullivan, scott mulhauser, kathy koch, yvvette touch. &oon our "help" committee, michael meyers, our great staff director who for more than a decade has led this staff and for almost 20 years has worked for senator kennedy. as we all know, we're all sorry that senator kennedy could not be here for this, but i can say honestly that michael meyers carried on the torch as his staff director. did a magnificent job of getting us through this. and david bowen. david bowen. if there's one person that knows more about what this -- is in this bill than anyone else, it's david bowen. i can honestly say i've never asked him about something in this bill that he didn't know where it was and what it did. and he has been at every meeting, i don't care how early in the morning, how late at night. and i know he's been apart from his family and his children and i -- i just wish david the best in terms of being with his family tomorrow and over christmas. but david bowen has just done such a magnificent job of guiding and directing this bill and mak

>> manny sullivan was the chairman. he was a democrat from broog -- brooklyn and chauncey reid was the senior minority member and he was a republican from dupage county, illinois. i was hired by chauncey reid. >> last question on that, what role does the legislative history, not the law, play when you think bay case that comes to new >> i think it's all significant. our job is to figure out what congress intended to do in enacting a statute and i can remember being asked by members of the committee about rather tricky questions that might be presented in the case. i remember explaining to one congressman some of the difficulties that i saw in a case. he answered, well, we'll let the judges figure that one out. because it's a cooperative venture. congress expects the judges to help fill in the holes in statutes as it goes along, realizing it's not just trying to word words -- read words in a sterile piece of paper. it's important for a judge, i think. >> thank you, justice stevens. >> thank you. >> if you'd like to own a

andy sullivan of reuters. gentlemen thanks for being with us on "newsmakers" on this sunday. have a good day [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> up next a hearing on contractors in iraq. after that senate banking committee votes on a new term for federal resaid of chair ben better nan key. after that a house hearing on u.s. counterterrorism efforts. >> his mark on history includes "manifest destiny" and in his new biography of james k. polk, a country of vast delife and times of our 11th president. tonight on c-span's q and a. >> now friday's hearing on contract oversight for security forces training in afghanistan was held by the federal commission on wartime contracting. members recently returned from a trip to afghanistan where a training local security forces has been made a top priority by the obama administration. >> good morning. i'd like to call the commission on wartime contracting in iraq and afghanistan to order. our hearing. >> this opening statement is made on behalf of my cochairman

lawrence sullivan and scientists questioning the validity of global warming.d to be with you. host: the house of representatives is now in the middle of a much-anticipated debate of financial market regulation. you have been a vocal critic. why? guest: the american public does not want any more bailout. they want to create jobs, not destroy them. the bill that we have on the floor provides more for bailouts, as more job destruction, and negroes government spending at phenomenal levels. host: how does it do that? guest: on the bailout side we had somewhat of a debate going on last night about this. we had to point out to the chairman that there was language in the amendment that basically said that the taxpayer is on the hook for an unlimited amount of money. $50 billion, $100 billion, over the next several years. the treasury has unlimited authority to borrow the money to bailout of wall street banks or anyone that they want to end there is no limit in the bill. that is a bailout like we had at the beginning of the year. the american public has said enough, so

and lawrence sullivan.l congressmen tator also teaches civil rights commentary. most recently he published, republicans and the black vote which looks at the historical relationship. he is our guest sunday night on c-span's q and a. >> washington journal continues. >> our guest, with the national iranian american council serves as their president. defense secretary gates talked about possible sanctions on iran and the attitude that's been taken on its nuclear program. do those work? guest: it seems we're going that direction. but when you look at the track record of sampingses in the last 20 years it doesn't bring about a lot of hope about this being a measured action to find a solution to this issue. sanctions can transform this conflict into a different type of a conflict but bringing about a solution, i'm very doufl. for the last 15 years what we have had very stringent sanctions we have seen their nuclear program advance further, we have seen their influence in the region increase. we have seen the gove

i was watching sullivan, the head of the secret service being questioned, and when a couple snuck intosked is it against the law to lie to the secret service and he panneded it. he said it is against the law to lie to any federal official. is it against the law for a federal official to lie to us? and i think the ultimate reform in our government may be as the people are sworn in and they wear to uphold the constitution and laws of the united states, if they finish with "i swearç tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth" that may be the reform we really need. host: this twitter comment. >> some of our twitter decrease is cspanwj. coming up a discussion on terrorism. jonathan broder who writes for defense and foreign policy issues, they are coming up in a couple of minutes. cal joins us from ogden, utah, republican line. caller: my hat is to off to your former call they're talked about representatives telling us the truth. i think that is one of the best comments i have heard on c-span in a long time. as far as senate reform, the reason the filibuster needs to be left

thompson is the house -- is the homeland security chair and he is calling the security director mike sullivand he also invited the salahis. it has been said that they are not coming. he is considering a subpoena. that also begins live at 10:00 a.m. and will be c-span.org. and ben bernanke before the senate banking committee today at 3:00 p.m. next is cocoa, fla., republican line. caller: i wanted to call in and mention a couple of things, especially when it comes to the constitution and as far as how it is interpreted, nowadays, it seems that every time there is a law that is passed, the people the past these laws do not really pay attention to the logic of it and the philosophy of it as to what is actually going to accomplish -- it is actually going to accomplish. and the group's are looking 40 -- and the groups are looking for their own incentives and how it is going to benefit their next campaign as opposed to what is really going to accomplish. -- what it is really going to accomplish. that is because people are not setting the constitution. that is what has brought us to a place we are i

and on senator baucus' staff, liz fowler, bill douster, liz sullivan, kathy koch, yevette corchcorch, and shawn bitner and shawn kessler which is the pronunciation. again, we could give separate remarks about each of these individuals and their contribution. again n my office, like others, i've been blessed with wonderful people. jim fenton is my legislative directer and done a terrific job. tomaro carroll, who is sitting on the floor with me this evening. i know we're not supposed to recognize people other than members, along with jeremy sharpe have just done a wonderful, wonderful job. and i know all of my colleagues have gotten to know both of them because of their work. monica -- monica fight, lia lopez, danielle balava have made wonderful contributions as well. special thanks to billing baird present throughout the entire "help" committee and has gone way beyond. they never get the kind of recognition they deserve. they do a tremendous job in drafting the actual legislation once these ideas become -- are developed, then it requires legislative language to be written. from the adm

paul sullivan is the economics and occasional correspondent for the cbs news hour.stions on the business desk. recently he has become a fellow at yale's berkeley college and the brady johnson political economy at yale. for those of you in our discussion this afternoon, you know that he was a lively moderator in a panel that preceded dinner. with that i will turn to bob franken and ask him to conduct a discussion among our panel members on the question of has the financial crisis changed the nature of economic news? >> president jefferson. other slightly less notables. are will make a deal with you, no jokes about tiger woods. but they do make a point. people are almost desperate to pay attention that type of thing and are encouraged to do so by certain television. there is so much that is probably of greater consequence these days. what we have when it comes to financial reporting -- we have represented here the best of times. people who are admired because of their ability to take these arcane and complex principles and explain them in language that people can unde