>> don't forget, arthur sulzberger jr.had made a really bad mistake when he appointed hal reins as the editor of the "time yes in 20001. he won multiple pulitzer prizes. he was a great editor of the "new york times," one of the greatest after 9/11. but he had a very difficult management style. he was brusque, and he was brulal, and ultimately he lost the support of the staff, and in the the end, arthur sulz berg in 2003, had to fire him -- >> there was a plagiarism issue. >> yeah, absolutely right. when he debated whether to make jill abramson the next editor of the "times" in 2011, or dean beckett, he worried that jill abramson was like hal in many ways, that she was too rough-- not as rough as hal by any means-- but she had a brusque reputation, and he worried about that. he told me at the time that he was profile abramson, that he decide she had the experience, she was tough, and she had the digital experience, that dean beckett lacked the same amount of experience and he chose her. they had a good relationship for a pe

that was viewed as a combative move by the publisher, arthur sulzberger. i do think that the question of sexism is a fair one to explore. i would add that it is not simply due to her attitude in page-one meetings. >> would this have happened if there was no -- someone as strong, prepared to take over, who clearly had himself some conflict with jill according to what we read and someone that the paper valued as a future editor and probably jill thought of as a future editor-in-chief. >> certainly. having dean who is executive editor in that position created some new pressures. he was trying to be coached by -- poached by other news organizations and that might have played in to this as well. what we know is that jill abramson did not have a great relationship with our thistles -- relationship with sulzberger. there are areas where they butted heads as well. when you have that dynamic owing -- going on, added to some of these moves up that i mentioned behind the scenes, maybe behind peoples back added to a general frustration with her management style, with

so sulzberger lost more ground by staying away from the cameras. abramson will wind up just fine because with those boxing gloves she punched her way to victory in the spin war. coming up, anderson cooper gets even with a dallas talk show host and this footage of strippers. hey, it's part of the story. our video verdict is straight ahead. >>> here are a few of your top tweets on the v.a. scandal. the problems might be old but the story isn't. we now have evidence of how ridiculously short the president has fallen in his promise to the vets. did they hold bush accountable? steve, they were slow, but in part it has been an old story the media has heard for a long time. they never look deeper to see deaths. clyde watkins, old story going on for years. fundamental reform to fix. media won't cover a story that long. >> it has been an old story that has been covered a little bit, and i don't know if the media will continue to cover it but any little bit helps. >> like to see the media suspend the a.d.d. and stick with this for a very lock time. >> brian

in terms of the sulzberger family and the shares, 90% of that is owned by the sulzberger trust, were you have eight family members that rotate throughout the years that control this. >> public shareholders, are they ok with this one man one vote structure that is in place? >> if you don't like it, don't invest in it. a lot of shareholders say i am not doing this media company think as i not going by this. did just that. they held the shares for 11 years, lobbied for about a year and a half to change the class structure. i got other institutional shareholders behind them. end of the day they were forced to sell because they could not execute any change. were talking to paul sweeney a bloomberg industries. >> alix steel joining us. thank you so much. theext we'll check situation in latin america and the latest on brazil's economy. bottom line on bloomberg television continues. >> a river series threatens to man --e serbia posner serbia's powerplant. at least 35 people have died in serbia and bosnia in the five days of flooding caused by unprecedented torrential rain. it is the next pha

he was saying, in effect, "you, arthur sulzberger, will have blood on your hands if there's another attack that could've been prevented by this program." i think anybody would feel goosebumps. >> the new york times broke the story about the national security agency... >> narrator: nevertheless, the times decided to publish the story, revealing the

and and -- the >> we probably should point out that sulzberger's father was known as punch sulzbergernd -s >> pinch. >> but what's amazing to me is e here we have a news organization that has now become -- it's like the entire news business is working out all of its anxious about the challenges the news business faces and the tensions between the business and the h news side through the prism of the difficulty of the "new york times" and i hope to god the rest of the news world is not as apparently mismged by a family run -- as a family run y-run enterprise as this one appears to be.>> >> i want to get to the question that brit raised with you. look, she was the first woman mn editor of the "new york times." big deal. on the other hand, if she's going to be raised to that position as a first woman, that also means maybe she should get fired. >> of course. she could absolutely get fired. i think s you raise an importan point thebu way she was treated. i'm far more concerned with the pay discrimination.here >> what about the temperament discussion? she was brusque.point. >> i don't beli

so sulzberger lost more ground by staying away from the cameras.and abramson will wind up just fine because with those boxing gloves she punched her way to victory in the spin war. coming up, anderson cooper gets even with a dallas talk show host and this footage of strippers. hey, it's part of the story. our video verdict is straight ahead. (mother vo) when i was pregnant... i got more advice than i knew what to do with. what i needed was information i could trust on how to take care of me and my baby. luckily, unitedhealthcare has a simple program that helps moms stay on track with their doctors and get the right care and guidance-before and after the baby is born. simple is good right now. (anncr vo) innovations that work for you. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. ♪ >>> time now for our video verdict. when a dallas tv commentator named amy kushner said she was disgusted by that footage of nfl prospect michael sam kissing his boyfriend and stormed off the set, it triggered quite a reaction. >> anderson cooper of cnn was less than please

what do you make of arthur sulzberger getting killed in the press yesterday? >> they bungled it and completely and absolutely. they reason they had to put it out on saturday because all the sun shows are going to be talking about how "the new york times" really bungled it. the problem is it's peak that -- pathetic he had to attack jill after shoving her out the door. >> they spent a lot of ink, though, on this equal pay issue, and now it turns out that there wasn't equal pay even though the times says there was, and they look like hip owe credits. the coverage was weighted heavily in the equal pay issue. >> we can talk about this story all day. i think it's fantastic. to have the publisher of the "new york times" complaining about mainstream media coverage is fantastic. i mean, here this is the -- >> try to restrain yourself. >> this is the team that created the mainstream media tactic of bullying. i disagree with lauren completely. the simple fact is that there was one source in the story. that's clear it was jill abramson. she completely made up this whole p

father was known as punch sulzberger.s known as pinch. >> but look, what is amazing to me is that here we have a news organization that has now become -- it's like the entire news business is working out all of its angst about the challenges the news business face and about the tensions between the business and the news side through the prism of the difficulties at the "new york times". and i hope to god the rest of the news world is not as apparently mismanaged by a family-run -- as a family-run enterprise as this one appears on be. >> i want to get to the question britt raised with you. she was the first woman editor of the "new york times". big deal. on the other hand, if she's going to be raised to that position, that also means maybe she can get fired. >> of course she can absolutely get fired. but you raise an important point about the way she was treated and i'm more concerned about the pay discrimination. >> some people say she was brusque and difficult, but there have been plenty of male editors who have been bru

they had a new report done by the sun of sulzberger jr. >> join the meritocracy. >> whatever. another subject another day. the son's report was she is so concerned about relations between the newsroom and the business side that she's slowing down this transition that needs to be made if "the times" is to remain financially viable. >> we auk about the fact that the times won eight pullitier prizes under jill abrahamson's tenure. one of the issues that people -- we'll talk about this. the way she was fired. fired in the middle of the week so suddenly she was gone before the announcement, not able to make some kind of statement, her reading glasses reportedly still on her desk after she left and it turns out that he also fired janet robinson, while abramson was the first female executive editor -- are they living in a glass house? >> look, i'm with brit on this. we don't know the details of it. i do know this. this seems to be a dysfunctional institution. it's a publicly traded company. in essence, "the new york times" is controlled by the sulzberger family, now in the third gene

quoting publisher arthur sulzberger jr. ten tenure i heard about a series of issues including arbitrary decision making, failure to consult and bring her colleagues with her, inadequate communication and the public mistreatment of colleagues." he went on "ultimately i concluded she had lost the support of her masthead colleagues and could not win it back." let's talk about that, shall we? joining me now host of cnn's reliable sources brian who used to work at the "times." brian, i have to begin with you, jill abramson was your boss and here you are covering media. you're wearing two hats for us right now. i'd like to go back first to her speech this morning at wake forest. i've been reading a lot of the tweets from her daughter and on instagram and ahead of time her daughter put on instagram that her mother would take t the #highroad. but she surprised us in which she did address this firing. what did you make of the speech. >> she surprised me. i thought she would make a cut l subtle references and move on but she talked a

c-span: first tell us who arthur sulzberger ... >> guest: i'm sorry. he is the son -- the only son and heir of punch sulzberger, who was publisher from 1963 until january of this year. several weeks before punch stepped aside and young arthur became the new publisher of the times in january of this year, he was at a bar mitzvah for one of the innumerable, sort of, sulzberger clan, and also there was harriet rabb, who had been the attorney pressing the women's class-action suit. so harriet found herself at lunch seated next to young arthur. and she said, with some trepidation, "my name is harriet rabb." and arthur's face lit up and he grabbed her and he said, "harriet rabb!" he said, "have you read nan's book? isn't it fabulous? i loved it." young arthur is a feminist and he's been pushing to close the gap between the salaries of men and women doing the same job, which is country-wide and society-wide and industry-wide. he's really doing things. he's really a devoted feminist and i have high hopes for him. the fact that he does come off well in the book

but arthur sulzberger's response was, what this shows is that women are fired, sometimes, just as men are. >> well, that's reasonable enough. and yet, somehow, the attention and criticism i think was focused on the woman in this story, jill. and not on, say, the fellow who runs the paper, who has had a heck of a lot of executive editors in the past decade who has hired them and who has fired them. so, perhaps there's some temperament going on there. you know? we don't know the exact facts. it seems to me, all of the exact facts about money. but has there been a little pushing around of a woman here? i suspect so. >> well, here's what's real. you know, it's not just journalism. women on average are paid less in every sector. and when women are assertive and commanding leadership, people call them names like pushy. nancy pelosi has been remarkably successful as a speaker. john boehner hasn't gotten anywhere close. and yet, people don't draw the comparison. and she gets roughed up by the right a lot. i guess we just see it too much to isolate this from so many other things where women ar

than her predecessor and, according to sulzberg sulzberger, abramson had been advised before she needed to change her management approach. from abramson's side we have tried to contact her but no report from her yet. but her daughter is releasing a picture of her mother, you can see it, her mother is in boxing gloves with the hashtag "pushing." she posted this on instagram just last week. meanwhile, back here at wake forest, some 500 miles from where the "new york times" is published, preparations are under way for the graduation ceremony on monday. and the university's president saying "i cannot think of a better message for the class of 2014 than that of resilience." and we wait to hear what jill abramson will have to say to these 4,800 graduates, erica. 50% of them are women, 50% of them are men. >> and plenty of people who aren't at the graduation will be listening as well. thank you. >>> david gregory is moderator of "meet the press." good morning to you. >> good morning, lester. >> throng that "new york times" statement, it seems they got a little bit behind. has that allowed the

arthur sulzberger was responsible for her appointment.utjill but many, many women in top positions. she was a role model for the women. we know how upset they are to see the way in which she was dismissed. >> can you look back in terms of your struggles with the industry, when women begin to raise these issues in the newsroom with management, the reaction, what happens to those who speak out? >> well, there are those people who have supported women. there are always allies among the men. and it is also true that many men in management feel that women aren't as qualified, or getting ahead because of affirmative action. that creates tension among your colleagues. therefore, women are always scrutinized in their management abilities. you know, how they manage. because so much stigma is attached to being more assertive, being aggressive, being what is called pushy. and women, unfortunately, have to learn how to navigate those waters well and men don't. shoulderesting you mention pushy. although there a non-disparagement agreement, i guess jil

publisher arthur sulzberger informed him. joining me now from washington dylan byers of politico, he broke today's news after covering the turbulence at the times all year, i am please to do have him here on this program. dylan, tell me about what happened and why this decision was made. >> sure. it was very sudden, and because of that thing we don't have all of the answers yet. what arthur sulz burger said it had nothing to do with the quality of the paper under her tenure. of course a year auto we reported there were some frustrations among members of the staff request her leadership they found her to be combative in some cases and in some cases condescending. we don't how much of a role that played. she also had struggles with the time ceo mark thompson who had taken a more aggressive approach to handling editorial operations in the news room than in the most. but we still don't have the pull answers as to why she left. >> rose: trace for me because you've been covering this story and you were clearly the one to break this

but she told sulzberger that she had warned him, sulzberger said that didn't happen.that is true, understandably he was upset. was this a fireable offense if it happened? >> i think one of the challenges in modern america is that the sexism is not going to be so blatant as, honey, get back in the kitchen and pimake me a dri. you can point to that incident. you can point to the fact that there were other folks in the newsroom who had an issue with her management style. but ultimately you have to look at the sort of broader trends. there is a new study out that shows that male ceos on average are ousted about 25% of the time. female ceos have ousted about a third of the time. so women are being kicked out more often. and i would argue that because it is so tough to get to the top as a one, that these women are likely more qualified, more capable that the males that they're a even being judged against. so when you look at the bigger picture, it's clear we have a problem in terms of women being judged by a different standard. >> we were wondering in the newsroom where jil

it has been a very difficult challenge to arthur sulzberger times staff.een shifting into the digital world and it takes time. you have an installed base that is very difficult to >> maybe the control and ownership is part of the problem. >> that kind of control was designed for media companies to protect editorial integrity. that has been adopted, as you just said, by google and facebook. i find it less rationale for i don't know. -- >> you do not like that? >> i do not like that. i think mark zuckerberg is doing a great job and deserves to stay. he will keep his position and keep the company. perhaps will come when he should be viable to shareholder changes. -- there seeing it concept is getting by. could not getou on the new york stock exchange if you had two classes. >>i think they now allow you -- >> look at alibaba. withe media side, huffington post being sold to aol and all of these other digital news sites. they had no brand and now they are valued at three or four hundred million dollars. at one point, guys like you did not want to touch these sit

>> everyone with the exception of sulzberger, abramson, and mckay were surprised. >> congratulations on breaking such a huge story. we'll be right back. stay with us. ♪ >> glenn greenwald is here, an investigative journalist who reported for "the guardian" recognized with the village surprise. his stories are grounded in the classified documents leaked by edward snowden. the disclosures have unleashed a national debate about the balance between security and civil liberties. he recounts his story of the revelations in the new book. it is called "no place to hide: edward snowden, the nsa, and the u.s. surveillance state." i'm pleased to have glenn greenwald at this table for the first time. welcome. let's start with the title, "no place to hide." comes from frank church? >> the famous church committee of the mid-1970's that discovered when surveillance apparatus were in the government without transparency or oversight, it would inevitably be abused. nobody knew that this had been amassed and the mandate of the nsa was never talked about domestically. just the existence is so dangerous

lot of sort of legacy media organizations and i think what the times needed if you listen to what sulzberger said today as they needed a more concrete leadership structure. clearly, there was something not working out with jill abramson either in general or a specific issue so they're trying to write that ship and bring in some stability to the newsroom under the new executive editor. >> we will come to him in a moment. jill was not present at the meeting in which the publisher announced the change. >> which is very strange. usually when the torch is passed from one leader to another, you have both of those people in the newsroom at the same time. that was not the case. statement saying she enjoyed her time and that was about it. it was very terse and she was not there when the statement was made to the newsroom. >> are people suggesting, as i think they did at an earlier time, that there may be sexism? charges are certainly of sexism regarding the criticism that she was a combative leader and she could be condescending. there were criticisms when we reported a year ago that would never be l

>> hearing from arthur sulzberging saying the dismissal had nothing to do with pay and gender to knock down the reports last week. jill abramson learned she was making less money than her predecessor, she confronted management and afterward dismissed. so here's how he's answering, he says, quote, perhaps the saddest outcome of my decision to replace jill as executive editor it's been cast as an example of the unequal treatment of women in the workplace. he goes on to say, in her last year on the job, abramson, look at her total pay package making 10% more than bill keller. and he lists the reasons that she was dismissed. he said it had to do with failure to consult and bring colleagues with her, arbitrary decision making, public mistreatment of colleagues and other characteristics. we spoke to a media executive, when you've got even the implication of gender discrimination, she says she can understand why the "times" without try to address it head-on. >> it would only suggest that the publishers or "the new york times" so worried about being regarded as a sexist he's willing to take th

"new york times" publisher sulzberger has denied media reports that her dismissal had to do under unequal pay or the company's treatment of women. he sites her management style for the reason for her firing. >>> still to come, it will cost you more to go to disneyland. why the theme park is raising its ticket prices. >>> how one bay area professional sports team is trying to make history with a piece of virtual currency. that story, coming up. >>> looking forward to that. you might notice the humidity out there when you walk outdoors. plenty of cloud cover. we actually have a slight chance for some mountain thunderstorms as we head through the latter portion of the day. better chance for your tuesday. we'll take you through the changes in your forecast, and a sneak peek at memorial day weekend when nbc bay area comes right back. >>> the virtual currency bit continue, a bay area sports team wants to bring it mainstream by accepting bit coin in the stands. >> nbc bay area's bob redell inside the new earthquake stadium in san jose. bob, you can't see bit coin, but, of course, you can use it.

sulzberger pet out serious, damning allegations and she should be able to respond.er whether the non-disparagement cause exists, her daughter has been responding, posting instagrams since wednesday. one had abrahamson at a boxing ring with boxing gloves on. on friday she wrote, this story is not over, not by a long shot. i do think we'll hear from this editor, i do think it's going to continue a conversation about how men and women are treated differently, not just in the need yeah, on television, for example, but in newsrooms. >> what is your take on that. do you think women in your experience, from what you've seen, women are treated differently or expected to do things differently? >> at "the new york times" -- i talked to a lot of my former colleagues there in the last few days, there are pretty important questions that have come up about whether women are promoted as often and as well as men and whether they're paid the same amount. not a lot of clarity on that issue. arthur salz burger says -- i still hear from female editors and reporters who say there's a do

. >> reporter: newspaper publisher arthur sulzberger jr. said it had nothing to do with the fact she was a woman. but it was an issue with management. an issue she discussed in 2011. >> i can be too brisk with people and you can just read on it my face. >> reporter: still, she graduates, resilience is more important than success. >> it meant more to our father to see us deal with a set back and try to bounce back than to watch how we handle our successes. she what you are made of, he would say. >> reporter: advice for new graduates and herself. mara schiavocampo, abc news, new york. >>> and now a very different clash making headlines tonight. we are talking today about the nba charging donald sterling for his racist comments. it's official. a hearing scheduled for june 3rd. after that, the league could force sterling to sell the los angeles clippers. >>> another headline from the world of sports tonight. an athlete got a big break today. a horse named california chrome got a break today with a little help from something unglamorous on his n

sulzberger began to speak and the president said, "i'm going to go first. i want to talk to you about this program. i want to talk to you about why this is important, why we think it saves lives, and why it should not be made public." >> narrator: the president turned the meeting over to general hayden for one of his famous briefings. >> it's hard to brief in the oval. you know, you can't... no visual aids. hard to roll out something in front of somebody. so i gave them the best explanation of the program i could, but i did bring up specific examples. >> the example he gives them is a plot in which a radical was planning to bring down the brooklyn bridge, apparently with a device similar to a blowtorch. and it actually kind of makes the times editors kind of scratch their heads, because they think this is kind of surprising, that somebody can sit there with a blowtorch or something like that and bring down the brooklyn bridge without anybody noticing him and stopping him first seemed absurd to them. >> i think arthur believes that the president may have cra

how did you take the statement from sulzberger? >> it was needed, necessary and probably too late. for three days that's a narrative from abramson's camp saying she was the victim of sexist behavior, paid less than the male predecessor and that she was treated poorly and that was descriptions of her as being pushy, as being brusque, sexist descriptions and it's possible she was a poor manager, not holding on to the support of the newsroom. in my experience with her, she was a beloved figure of reporters and someone that the editors struggled to work. >> struggled to work with how? >> when i was thinking of coming over here, i met with her and talked with her and whether i was leave, she reacted and made it easier to leave. she wasn't very friendly about it. let's just put it that way. it's that kind of brusque behavior, that kind of aggress i behavior. >> it wasn't in the statement, i don't know if you looked at this, as well. but it's been reported now this was a fight over the other co-managing editor to bring a co-managing editor in, hire him and basically being disingenuous wit

and according to sulzberger, abramson had been advised before that she needed to change her managemente're still waiting to hear her version of the story. but her daughter did put out a picture on instagram about her mother. meanwhile, back here at wake forest, about 500 miles from "the new york times," the final preparations are being made for the commencement address. and the university professor saying he can't think of a better message for the class of 2014. it is timely and most likely every one of these 4,800 students will be listening very carefully to what jill abramson has to say. alex, you should know that the class here of graduates of 2014, 50% men, and 50% women. >> do you think there's a ghost of a chance that she won't address this? or is it all going to be about, you know, bringing women up and not letting the 50% of that class beat them out, as the women are vying for their jobs and getting going in life? >> reporter: i'll tell you that some of them will be disappointed if she doesn't say anything about it. because we talked to some of the graduates here on campus this

sulzberger use of we seemed strange until i realized it is the vanity fair piece.he felt any vulnerability in the view of himself of gender diversity, he did not portray it. the paramount view was this was not a place that penalizes women. what is your takeaway from all of this? >> well, i think it has started a conversation because all of the initial conversation we had, she was paid less, she was difficult, fed into the kinds of discrimination that women in the media and workplace in general are often feel that they are generally paid less across the board and being a difficult woman and someone who asserts herself and stands up for herself, they are stigma tiesed for that. we know that. that's what sparked this enormous conversation which actually i think hopefully will be positive in the end. i think in this case, what we're now finding out as the story is developing, there are other issues about this issue between jill and her boss. they had a strained relationship, apparently it got worse. and all i can say is that three of the top women at the new york times

the weekend new york types publisher arthur sulzberger broke his silence saying that her newsroom management was the issue here. his statement says in part, during her ten you you're, i heard repeatedly from her newsroom colleagues, women and men, about a series of issues including arbitrary decision making, a failure to consult and bring colleagues in and the public mistreatment of colleagues. rehema ellis joining us. i don't know if people were hoping for he fifireworks, but think it was an acceptable tone from jill abramson given the commencement was about her kids and not about her fight with the "new york times". >> reporter: i think you're right. she was funny and she was also forceful. she began this commencement address saying to the students that she was impressed that your commencement has attracted so much media attention and she got a laugh from the students about that. but she was also speaking directly to them when she said i'm talking to anyone who has been dumped and not gotten the job you wanted. you know the sting of rejection when that happens. show what you are made of. i

executive editor jill abramson was replaced in a surprise move by publisher arthur sulzberger. "the new yorker" reports abramson had recently complained about earning less than her male predecessor, bill keller. she had also voiced concerns about business decisions and advertising interfering with the newsroom. abrahamson has been replaced by whoging editor dean baquet becomes the first african-american to hold the post. he was accused of quashing a story on the involvement of phone companies in the bush ministrations domestic servants program while working at "the los angeles times." he received complaints from top u.s. intelligence officials at the time, but says that played no role in his decision. the french photojournalist camille lepage has died while covering the conflict in central african republic. her body was found murdered after french troops stopped the vehicle driven by christian militants. friends and colleagues say camille lepage was dedicated to documenting africa's overlooked conflicts. she was 26 years old. and those are some of the headlines. this is democra

what do you make of sulzberger getting killed in the press. >> they bungled it. the reason they had to put something out on saturday was because of all the sunday shows who will talk about how "new york times" really bungled it. the problem is it is pathetic he had to attack jail, the woman he shoved out the door. >> pathetic because of what -- he is defending himself against a lost coverage that was favorable to abramson? >> they spent a lot of ink on the equal pay issue. now, it turns out there wasn't equal pay although "new york times" says there was. they look hike hypocrites. >> the coverage has been weighted toward the equal pay issue and that is not the only issue no matter the interpretation you buy in the dismissal. >> we can talk about this all day. it is fan tass stick to have the publisher of "new york times" complaining about mainstream media coverage is fantastic. this --. >> try to restrain yourself. >> this is the team that created the tactic of bullying by the mainstream media. >> i disagree completely with lauren. the fact is, simply, there was

this report led by the younger sulzberger. he can write.e has been a writer for the new york times. i told his father once, this kid can write. like the kid actually has talent. >> this does not go away with just " the new york times." credit suisse getting ready to plead guilty. that leads us to the twitter question of the day i'm a what is the tipping point for ousting a ceo? brady dougan perhaps the next to leave. what is the tipping point? tweet us. ♪ >> good morning, everyone. michael o'leary, last. should just move over to the united states. it :00 this morning. look for that. it is bloomberg "surveillance." to the must-read. adam johnson back to princeton. paul krugman. let me share with you what he wrote today. but owns always involvement stakes on both sides is far worse worker responsible so were the money -- so were the people let when the money. -- the people that lend the money. here is this. there is a fair populist argument here. ok, let's punish the bankers, but in fairness to the bankers, we are talking about potentially cr

sulzberger said, abramson's management of the newsroom was simply not working out. "i heard repeatedly from her newsroom colleagues, women and men, about a series of issues, including arbitrary decision-making, a failure to consult and bring colleagues with her, inadequate communication and the public mistreatment of colleagues." her firing sparked a heated debate about whether women are held to a different standard than men. this story is far from over. whatever the truth is, jill abramson's firing has reignited a conversation all across the country about the role of women leadership in the workplace. willie. >> rehema ellis, thank you so much. kate brightman is the former editor of "new yorker" magazine. it's good to have you here. is this a story about gender or about her management? >> i think it is both. we are not judged on how we do with sales, but how we deal with people. women are held to a different standard. guys are being no nonsense. women are brought. we are held to a different standard. >> you use the term brusque. the words used to describe jill are

. >> arthur sulzberger junior said that abramson's firing had nothing to do with the fact she was a womanstyle that she discussed with charlie rose in 2011. >> i can be too brusque with people. you can just read it on my face. >> reporter: still abramson told graduates, resilience is often more important than success. >> it meant more to our father to see us deal with a setback and try to bounce back than to watch how we handled our successes. show what you are made of, he would say. >> reporter: advice for new graduates and for herself. mara schiavocampo, abc news, new york. >>> a former college student accused of making two bomb threats in hopes of cancelling graduation ceremony. at quinnipiac university in connecticut. police say daniela shea made the threats because she didn't want her family to find out she was no longer enrolled and wasn't graduating. graduation was delayed and moved to a sports arena. police traced the calls to her phone and she was arrested at that arena wearing a cap and gown and released on bail. >>> a parolee is under arrest after a road rage incident. near los

sulzberger issued to more statements about ms.abramson and attempt to quell the furor over her department -- her departure. lostcluded that she had the support of her colleagues and could not win it back. as the been confirmed speaker for wake forrest for some weeks. she said in an interview before the commencement, she was recruited to speak by an alumnus and member of the board of trustees. whattle context for you on jill abramson had to say. when we come back, we will talk about primary day in six states. [video clip] are a lot more resilient than we realize. resilience and perseverance. there are so many examples of that. for me professionally, three heroes are a groundbreaking hero from the new york times, and catherine graham, the publisher of the washington post, which broke the watergate story. discrimination in a much tougher, more male-dominated newspaper industry. they went on to win pulitzer prizes. , who wasgue jim rison standing up against an unfair washington leak investigation, is another hero. book about anita hil

no, sulzberger said, adding a as womenness coda -- reach the top, bill get fired just as men have beenand with that, he, along with abramson, declined to comment further about the circumstances of her departure. yesterday, andet instagram picture of her yesterday, boxing. by hers instagramed daughter. she has a couple of tattoos that have been written about. one with the new york times "t" and a new york subway token. an article from last sunday, where you can see her name still on the top. masthead.is morning's is now see dean baquet the executive editor. what is the public policy issue on your mind this week? thank you, c-span. you have donehat about the net neutrality and the articles that you read, i feel that that is a very interesting -- probably one of the most important decisions made by the commissioner -- he did not make it, but it was 3-2 as described in the article that you read so excellently. -- theuation is this protesters, i consider their point. concerned that capitalism was trying to take over the internet. well, it's not. it is really freedom. freedom is trying to ta

what do you make about the news statement from sulzberger, i just read it.g about her weaknesses. >> 475 words about why she was fired. you can imagine if someone wrote that -- we've all been fired but not 475 words tab. >> what do you make about it? >> when i read the words public mistreatment of colleagues. isn't that what the publisher is now doing, putting a statement out about her? on the other hand, when i read this description, it rang true to me. i worked at the times and jill was the editor. she was not always a people person. she was a beloved editor but a feared editor. >> but that is media. >> editors have to be tough sometimes. >> i'm not in the business of defending the "times," i think we should get more heat from things. this was a clear case of gender descripti discrimination. >> by abramson. >> and they've been rebutting it on the points but the perception is you did this because she's a woman. is that true? >> i don't think it's that simple. i don't think that is true. but i do think there's a gender context for these things. it's possible