in the public garden boston there's a statue for carol sumner. all it says is sumner. there is no explanation, no explanation of who he was worth a sculptor was. most people i think probably in one of the thousand people have no idea who he was or any thought about it is probably he built the tunnel which he did not. the charles sumner went to attend lectures and he attended them of all kinds and he took notes and crammed before he started his lecture attendance and he became quite fluent and he took notes on everything imaginable, and one day his mind began to strain a little because the professor was running on a little longer than he expected, so she began looking around at the other students in the hall. cahal is still there by the way and close to a thousand students in cahal and he noticed that the black students were treated just like everyone else, they talked the same as everyone else, they addressed the same as everyone else and they had the same ambitions that he had, and he wrote in his journal that night i wonder if the way we treat black people at home ha

in the public garden boston there's a statue for carol sumner. all it says is sumner. there is no explanation, no explanation of who he was worth a sculptor was. most people i think probably in one of the thousand people have no idea who he was or any thought about it is probably he built the tunnel which he did not. the charles sumner went to attend lectures and he attended them of all kinds and he took notes and crammed before he started his lecture attendance and he became quite fluent and he took notes on everything imaginable, and one day his mind began to strain a little because the professor was running on a little longer than he expected, so she began looking around at the other students in the hall. cahal is still there by the way and close to a thousand students in cahal and he noticed that the black students were treated just like everyone else, they talked the same as everyone else, they addressed the same as everyone else and they had the same ambitions that he had, and he wrote in his journal that night i wonder if the way we treat black people at home ha

ok i think in a charles sumner i might agree yeah ok patrick i mean i want to pick up on something you said earlier and i want to just get it clear for you is the occupy wall street movement un-american in your opinion. yeah i believe it is i don't think it's i don't think it represents the way that american democracy works the idea of consensus which is american democracy is american democracy work isn't working for the average person today. the average person or an oracle system i want i want to know that it's it's the oracle it isn't treating average american very well right now but that doesn't say that the business from the way forward and our political process and democracy democracy takes time and so even though our political process is stalled right now and it isn't seems well it really isn't hardly if i can go to james if i can go to james on the banks were in trouble the congress got together pretty fast and bailed them out did they mean really matter of weeks ok it goes move very quickly as they sense are invested interests are at stake here but the very principle of a repre

that was because sumner had told him to.there is a myth that lincoln said we must only have one war at a time. he said i've personally never found an account of it. >> host: very many quotations floating around which probably never originated with lincoln. >> guest: he might've said it might have thought it and certainly practical than i would have thought of at the time if anyone would've asked my opinion, but i don't think he said that. at least not to seward. >> host: i haven't seen it specifically quoted at the time. but lincoln had a cabinet which he allowed a great deal of leeway. he left the financial issues to secretary chase and as you say basically that foreign relations to seward. he kept military affairs under his direct control of the slavery issue under his direct control and would support men's started making policy about slavery, lincoln would slap them down. you talk about general fremont issuing early in the war. lincoln said i'm making policy about slavery. not every general in the field. i'm interested to

counsel in the appellate at locke lord and she received her jd from smu school of law where she was a sumners scholar and she is a member of the executive board of the council of appellate lawyers. these join in welcoming the outstanding distinguished panel. [applause] >> thank you so much for being here today with us for our talk about judicial decision-making. before we begin on this veterans day, i would like to take a moment to remember all those who have served our country in the u.s. armed forces in northern men and women in uniform today. thank you for your service. [applause] i want to start with a question to kind of bridge between lawyering and judging. before you became a judge, when you're a lawyer, as a lawyer before you went on the bench, what didn't you understand about how judges make decisions? we will start with you. >> that was so long ago i hardly even remember it. what did i not understand? i did not understand the impact of a personality on the collegial decision-making process because i'm a multimember -- please forgive me i am better today than i have been with this la