now, with this piece of legislation, i think staff's sumption would be that h.r.c. and -- because they cover the l.b.e.'s, they have an l.b.e. task force that they would be very much involved in drafting the legislation. and while some minor inputs i think were given at various phases, but they were not part of the -- my understanding is they were not part of the core team involved in drafting the legislation. commissioner o'brien: so we were proceeding thinking that h.r.c. was pretty involved in it and kind of driving what representation we might ought to have been there? >> well, i think here is the time line that transpired. we had no knowledge that this legislation was being drafted until it was introduced. and was forwarded to our commission. which then at that point in time we reached out to h.r.c. because it covers the l.b.e.'s, asked for their input, reached out to the office of economic and workforce development and the legislative sponsor to petroleum briefings and to have them come and present -- to provide staff some preliminary information but to schedu