anderson returns to fort sumter to reraise the american flag over fort sumter. and the celebration was overshadowed that same night when president abraham lincoln was shot in washington, d.c. at ford's theater. so, what's fort sumter today? today, if you go visit the fort -- it was used by the u.s. military in the 1940's and now is a part site. -- park site. there is no more of those three tiers of walls. there's only one level of the brick wall around the island. you'll see this large, black every built during the -- battery built during the spanish-american war. very little fabric from the original 1861 still exists, but it does exist on different places on the island. inside the battery is a wonderful museum that has a lot of objects related to the battle. this is what it looks like inside today. some of the case mates are surviving, so you can check those out. you can see the ruins over here of the different barracks and officers quarters, as well as monuments to the defenders of the fort. you can still see some of the actual, you know, artillery that was fi

he moves over to fort sumter. this is an image showing them raising the american flag and set fort sumter. the painting done later, but it is very interesting because it gives you a glimpse on the inside. fort sumter was started in 1829 and was still under construction when anderson moves his men there in 1860. they are still working on it 30 years after they started. as you can see inside the fort it was on was 90% complete. there are imposing walls that stood 50 feet high. three tiers of artillery placements, the fort was pretty massive for that time. it was originally built to hold over 600 men. anderson does not have that many. he will not even be able to use all the canons. it was built to hold 135 cannons and there are only 60 in the fort at this time. he will only be able to man 10 cannons during the battle. like fromat it looked the outside. fort sumter was a pretty imposing fortress sitting in the middle of the harbor. onceis going to happen is the charlestonians cf leg over fort sumter their outraged --

and i'll be watching sumter county which is where the bulk of the villages it, the largest retirementlorida. the median age there is 68.9 years old. the trump campaign has placed so much importance on the villages that pence visited last weekend, trump is holding a rally tonight in ocala, which is right next door. and democrats took delight in these images last weekend of a flotilla of 500 golf carts with biden flags that were on their way to drop off mail-in ballots. and so that's anecdotal. but what we know from the polls is biden has really made inroads with white seniors, particularly in the last couple of weeks. he's ahead, on average, among seniors, 53-44%. compare that to final polls in 2016 which had trump up amongst seniors 49-44% over clinton. if there is this gray revolt, it should be apparent early on election night. keep in mind, sumter, in 2016, 84% of the vote there was cast early and they reported their entire batch of early votes pretty shortly after the polls closed. we could know by 7:15 p.m. whether trump has a massive problem with seniors. if he can't win florida,

steve is reporting from sumter county, 52,700 raw votes for donald trump in sumter county.t's one of the counties to watch. it's east coast time, florida reports quickly, we will see what kind of senior support shows up in sumter county this time. thank you, steve for that. when we come back, we will go back to the campaigns, but first before we go to break, oscar-winning sean conery. iconic role for british agent james bond, scottish-born actor won numerous awards in 5-debate career including 3 golden globes, in addition to oscar we won in 1988 movie untouchable. he was surrounded by family in bahamas home when he died. sean conery was 90 year's and when you get a big deal... old. priceline. every trip is a big deal. at humana, we believe your healthcare should evolve with you. and part of that evolution means choosing the right medicare plan for you. humana can help. with original medicare, you're covered for hospital stays and doctor office visits, but you'll have to pay a deductible for each. a medicare supplement plan can cover your deductibles and co-insurance, but yo

so, we decided we would let him talk about fort sumter because it was the closest in the

sumter county, he won it by 39 points in 2016. the president always loves to come here and visit with the folks at the villages, trying to build a head of steam of un -- enthusiasm. the president in the oval office a short time ago predicting a red wave. listen here. >> the great red wave hasn't hit yet. it's going to be a great red wave like you've never seen before. a wave like never before. it's all red. and it's going to be a thing of beauty. >> the president says florida today, pensacola tonight, tomorrow morning wakes up in mar-a-largo. votes early and goes to north carolina, ohio, wisconsin, new hampshire, pennsylvania, nebraska. he's got a packed schedule. >> bill: a typical weekend, right? >> a typical weekend. >> bill: thanks, john. on the board over here, the what-ifs map. everything in great is a battleground. pennsylvania's 20 votes. florida's 29 votes. win those, you're on your way to taking the white house for either candidate this year. john is down here as he mentioned. this is sumter county, home of the villages.

he needs to win sumter to the one to win statewide in my opinion. if we see the first batch of results coming in and he is only i had 60 to 39% that's probably not good enough and that would confirm a catastrophic loss of support among seniors, a great revolt against trump. i would highly recommend you follow redistrict on twitter . you can keep up with him on election night. will you be doing any of those calls on election night? caller: great question -- guest: great question. i am under contract to work on the nbc news major decision desk. i will be handing out a guide on election day on how to interpret the results. that reelection we are quarantined -- at reelection we are quarantined and unable to disseminate our own views of what is going on, because we make projections as a team. we want to be sure that we are doing it right. it's important to point out that networks are rightfully very careful in how they make judgments on election night. when so much data is coming at you so fast i feel like it is impossible for any one person to have a fi

but in sumter county, florida, which is the villages, has a median age of 68.9 years old, we are expectingover 80% of the vote will be reported rather quickly on election night, because over 80 percent of the vote will be cast in advance of election night. and they dump that batch all at once. if donald trump is below 62% of the first batch of votes that is over 75,000 cast in sumter county, that's going to be a terrible sign for him, because he needs to ultimately be winning that county 2-1, to have any chance of winning florida. and anything less would indicate a cat atropastrophic loss of su among seniors. >> what do you get as the early voting there? >> we have 61,000 votes cast there out of 105,000 registered voters. so we're going to have close to 80% if not more of the vote cast and counted before the polls close -- well, before election day, and ready to report when the polls close at 7:00. so that's going to be an important early indicator for those of us who are watching the results at the decision desk of what's going to happen. >> hey, dave, am i right in recalling the villages

. >> reporter: john colondro is with the remembpublican party i sumter county.ves most retirees will vote their fixed incomes >> a lot of people want to say the stock market only benefits the rich but there are a lot of people here who are collecting dividends and that's kind of giving them an edge to enjoy the lifestyle we have. >> i would love to see every registered voter vote so after this is all done we can look back and say it is clear, we have a president that the people have chosen. >> reporter: on election night both campaigns will be watching the early results here for a trend. have a significant number of trump's most loyal voters defected kerry sanders, nbc news, the villages, florida. >> seeing that in some other states with high senior populations like arizona >> absolutely. we know whether you're young or old, especially this election, it is counting >> it matters. thanks for starting your week with "early today. i'm lindse ♪ 100% beef and hearty chili. try my $5.99 chili cheeseburger combo. . ♪ 100% beef and hearty chili. try my $5.99 chili chees

wish myself to lapland i want 2020 years topsy-turvy father christmas as the holiday is still on sumter expressed a special wish that everyone stays safe and healthy this year i think we're all wishing for that well that's all from me for today at the top of the hour nicky are and will be here have a good day. so we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy to for him do you shouldn't let it be an arms race is often spirit dramatic development only. i don't see how that strategy would be successful very critical darren time to sit down him talk. they were going underground as unverified reports suggest hundreds have been killed or injured in africa's most populous nation nigeria whose weaponry comes from its old colonial muster britain coming up in the show no nation 30 years after legendary afrobeat by ending at colonial activist called current nigerian president mohammad nubile hari an animal in a mad man's body we speak to his son femi kuti about continuing the fight and struggling for justice in the face of state violence and while nigerians stand up to their beli

announcer: located in charleston inbor fort sumter was held 1861. despite south carolina's secession in 1860. up next, mark malloy describes the events of april 12, 1861 when confederate guns around the harbor opened fire on fort sumter. this talk was part of a symposium on the war in the east hosted by the emerging civil war blog. welcome back to the virtual symposium. glad to have you with us. my name is chris. our next speaker comes to

chairman of the committee to defend the president and a founding member of the former stop hillary and sumter we're joined by chris fance he is former chairman of the washington state republican party after his departure from the g.o.p. he is now an active member of the never trump group any job i originally dressed up and i think that means you can jump in anytime you want now it's appreciate it ok let's go to ted in denver as i asked in my introduction as we as the election is looming what impact has donald trump pat on the g.o.p. because this i will put my cards on the table i think i see myself as a conservative i don't usually think of the president is being a conservative where does he go where does how does he fix it fill in the mix of the g.o.p. go ahead well i think.

chairman of the committee to defend the president and a founding member of the former stop hillary and sumter we're joined by chris fance he is former chairman of the washington state republican party after his departure from the g.o.p. he is now an active member of the never trump group any job i originally crossed up and i think that means you can jump in anytime you want now it's appreciate it ok let's go to ted in denver as i asked in my introduction as we as the election is looming what impact has donald trump pat on the g.o.p. because this i will put my cards on the table i think i see myself as a conservative i don't usually think of the president as being a conservative where does he go where does how does he fix it fill in the mix of the g.o.p. own head. well as a conservative that goes all the way back to working in the reagan white house i would definitely say that president trump is a conservative probably the most pro-life president and american history and ronald reagan obviously was the 1st leader of the pro-life movement in america if you look at his efforts to try to secure o

the trick is not that biden is going to win counties like sumter, it is can biden trim away the lead trump had there in 2016? not is he going to wincan he reduce the marginst biden gets? that is where the trick in florida is. can you hold down the margins of victory for your opponent in areas where they are strong, and maybe in wisconsin and those rural excerpts, instead of it being 80-20 trump, you can keep it to 70-30 or 60-40. that will help biden. the same in florida. does biden extend the lead hillary clinton had? can he rack up more votes in orange county and broward county and miami county, or does trump expand on some of the margins he had in some of those rural counties and keep it of -- keep it up above the margin? host: what tactics are the campaigns using to get the desired outcome for them? guest: a couple things. obviously showing up and coming to these areas is great because it energizes the base and gets folks excited. it gives them that extra little juice to make that phone call or knock on that door to try and get a voter to show up. your previous guest discussed it

so he will get in the helicopter and coming down here to the villages in sumter county which the president were on by 39 points. he won the state of florida by a little more than one point. the president trying to build a head of steam in terms of enthusiasm to get voters to the polls. people are early voting in florida. the president in the oval office talking about his performance last night and how that compared to the first debate on september the 29th. >> thought i did great. there were certain groups of very aggressive people that love the first debate. this was better. this is obviously a more popular way of doing it. i wanted to play by the rules. i felt strongly about it. it's two different styles. i'm able to do different styles if you had to. this seemed to be more popular. >> so the president is going to be in florida today. he will spend the night at mar-a-largo. tomorrow he will vote and a weekend full of actives like ohio, north carolina, wisconsin, new hampshire. three events in pennsylvania monday. it's time to get in for the long haul. pack your bags. make sure you have l

>> track back to 2016 to show why i think where he is speaking at this moment in the villages in sumterrement community. oldest median age in the country. this is not a county president trump is going to lose. why is he there? in florida, you're not about flipping counties. you're about running up in the counties that you traditionally win. here is why this county, even though president trump is going to win is a problem. up to the polling for seniors. those above 65. national exist polls in 2016 president trump carried seniors by seven points. in florida he blew it out won by 17 points. now take a look at where things stand right now nationally, down by ten points to joe biden. in florida, down by eight points to joe biden. . president trump has a serious problem if he is losing seniors right now, that is why he's in the villages right now and it's not exclusive to him. president obama is going to miami-dade. that is a democratic stronghold as well and democrats trying to raise their margins and their strongholds as well. >> the former president obama will try to get that vote out. the

we will start in florida, and pick a county you probably don' think about a lot, sumter county .he reason i do that is because the president one with a whopping 70 percent of the vote four years ago. why is that? the villages are located in seniors in florida, how are the reacting right now with covid concerns? are they different in florida, than they are perhaps in pennsylvania? we will find out whether or not the president can run up that number or even match it so far in 2020. this is obvious, miami-dade, bu i think is to see whether there is a hispanic brought to president trump in 2020. hillary clinton easily won the county. pop on out here, going to come up to georgia and work our way up the east coast. this state of georgia, ec of th blue located here. all the metro counties that surround it. i think the interesting county is cobb county. that is where hillary clinton won in 2016. 25 years ago this was newt gingrich home district. it of white voters can meet up african-american voters and you have white suburban voters who vote in cobb county, so we will see whether or not

, in fact, jme harrison were to win and defeat lindsey graham, that means that soh carolina, fort sumteresented in thed states senate by two african-american senators. that is remarkable in itself. the north carolinaace, talk about a blown opportunity. cal cunningham, veteran family aman, state senor, rais this money, running ahead, and gets exposed for carrying on an illicit affair in the middle of the campaign, and has all of a sudden made it a race.en if thee balance hangs, thean majority in the balance of north carolina, his name will live in infamy in democratic circles because he had agn icant lead over thom tillis. i think iowa is fascinating. i think maine is fascinating as well and i think arizona is now put away f the democrats, it appears. judy: with 3.5 weeks to go, we will leave it there. mark shields, david brooks, we thank you both. mark: thank you. ♪ judy: again, this week we remember five extraordinary people who have lost their lives this pandemic. up every day by 5:00 in the morning, don spent decades in the corporate world before retiring to pursue his true passion, a

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this is sumter county. the president won by 39 points over hillary clinton in 2016. you can bet the president is going to bring up a lot of those points that he was hammering joe biden on last night at that debate. now, for us, as correspondents covering these political campaigns, the last debate is the time that we all breathe a sigh of relief. the finish line is in sight. as the president pointed out so many times with this mail-in voting and the deadlines being extended now as to when the ballots can be counted, we don't know when the finish line will be. for ron desantis, he asked the crowd here at the villages what they thought of the debate, who they thought won it. surprise, surprise, they thought was president trump did well. the president thought he did well. here he is in the oval office talking about last night and his performance in the previous debate on september 29. >> i thought i did great. there's certain groups of very aggressive people that loved the first debate. i thought this was better. this is obviously a more popular way of doing it. no, i th

once the war is over, today's the anniversary of the firing on fort sumter, everybody has different ideas about what the nation is supposed to become. we have gone through that with the idea that african-american men who had fought for the union had some ideas of what america should be, and certainly white southerners had in idea about what america should be. the northerners who won had an idea of what america should be. the indians and the chinese at -- out west had ideas about what america should be and certainly the northern men who had won the war had ideas about what the country should be. the critical question as to what it was going to be was who was going to have a say in it. we have gone to that as well, but who had a say in what that new nation was going to be was going to have a dramatic affect on what it eventually became. today i want to talk about women and women's lives in the late 19th century and their role in what was really the reconstruction, the true rebuilding of the north, south, and the west into a new nation in the wake of the civil war. the story of women is more

he needs to win sumter to the one to win statewide in my opinion.we see the first batch of results coming in and he is only i had 60 to 39% that's probably not good enough and that would confirm a catastrophic loss of support among seniors, a great revolt against trump. i would highly recommend you follow redistrict on twitter . you can keep up with him on election night. will you be doing any of those calls on election night? caller: great question -- guest: great question. i am under contract to work on the nbc news major decision desk. i will be handing out a guide on election day on how to interpret the results. that reelection we are quarantined -- at reelection we are quarantined and unable to disseminate our own views of what is going on, because we make projections as a team. we want to be sure that we are doing it right. it's important to point out that networks are rightfully very careful in how they make judgments on election night. when so much data is coming at you so fast i feel like it is impossible for any one person to have a firm h

let's start out in sumter county where the president delivers remarks at the maga rally in the villagesresident trump is now polling below joe biden, biden leading by two points in this state. why is this a key stop for the president today? good morning. >> good morning. nice to be here. well look, florida is a really interesting state. if you talk to experts and you'll see this as soon as you go to the touch screen. it is really five states where you have the panhandle in the north, miami in the south, you have the gold coast and you have the central area as well as the west. and republicans and democrats do well across those different -- five different states as you can call them. the villages is interesting actually. close to trump's home. it is near west palm but the surrounding counties produce republican votes. not surprising the president will go there trying to get his supporters to the polls early and erase some of the early voting lead the democrats have been accumulating in florida. >> sandra: sumter county he handily won in 2016. 70% of the vote there. you talk about the pan

pinellas and sumter counties go primarily for the gop.he lead is shrinking, the data tells us now. a florida pollster says what do you do if you've lost a good friend or spouse to covid or locked in your house for six months? biden doesn't need them all to go one way, you just need 10% to switch and that's the election. meaning 10% of the seniors they switch and it will be very tough for the president to come back. >> that's why turnout in the key. microtargeting to the block where the people are. motivating and assisting voters to get to the polls. understanding where the polling is. and then monitoring the polling. making sure there are enough machines, that people are showing up. republicans want people to show up in person, not respond to unsolicited mail ballots. if they haven't asked for a ballot they need to go and go early and vote in person. >> trace: 10 seconds to end this up for us, mo. >> i think that's right. look, nearly half of registered voters in the state have already voted and right now there are more democratic ballots

this is a guy who in the sumter park five, five innocent black kids, he continued to push for makingure that they got the death penalty. none of them were guilty of what the crime, of the crimes that were suggested. look, and talk about he -- granted, he did, in fact, let 20 people, he commuted 20 people's sentences. we commuted over 1,000 people's sentences. over 1,000. the very law he's talking about is a law that, in fact, initiated by barack obama. and secondly, we're in a situation here where we, the federal prison system was reduced by 38,000 people under oured a managers. and one of these things we should be doing, this should be no, no minimum mandatories in the law. that's why i'm offering $20 the billion to states to change their state laws to eliminate minimum mandatories and set up drug courts. no one should be going to jail because they have a drug problem. they should be going to rehabilitation, not to jail. we should fundamentally change the system, and that's what i'm going to do. >> why didn't he do it four years ago? why didn't you do that four years ago, even less

once the war is over, today's the anniversary of the firing on fort sumter, everybody has different ideas about what the nation is supposed to become. we have gone through that with the idea that african-american men who had fought for the union had some ideas of what america should be, and certainly white southerners had in idea abou

the trick is not that biden is going to win counties like sumter, it is can biden trim away the lead there in 2016? not is he going to wincan he reduce the marginst biden gets? that is where the trick in florida is. can you hold down the margins of victory for your opponent in areas where they are strong, and maybe in wisconsin and those rural excerpts, instead of it being 80-20 trump, you can keep it to 70-30 or 60-40. that will help biden. the same in florida. does biden extend the lead hillary clinton had? can he rack up more votes in orange county and broward county and miami county, or does trump expand on some of the margins he had in some of those rural counties and keep it of -- keep it up above the margin? host: what tactics are the campaigns using to get the desired outcome for them? guest: a couple things. obviously showing up and coming to these areas is great because it energizes the base and gets folks excited. it gives them that extra little juice to make that phone call or knock on that door to try and get a voter to show up. your previous guest discussed it is not ch