chris: sundar is an incredible compliment to larry. as a foil in meetings.both have good ideas, but he can actually navigate a big company, and i can't. i have sharp elbows, i have opinions, i'm impatient in ways that i think are more similar to elon than sundar. emily: in what way? chris: tough to work with. i demand everything to be exactly right. i grew up with just my parents' excellence where it was expected. it was not even demanded. we had to do everything right the first time. emily: at google, you were described as this guy who maybe would go to meetings and get stuff done and might have rubbed people wrong way. chris: it was accurate. i was projected on high as the guy who got * * done. that said, he did not fit into the hierarchy. i totally know why it rubbed some people the wrong way, but i stand by the stuff i did to get stuff done. emily: what do you think about the moon shot? is that what they should be concentrating on right now? chris: yeah, i do. nobody here would tell you self driving cars is a small idea and it will not pan out. that coul