when four year old sunny jim x is there , and. jim x is there, and. >> i have to say, i like it. >> i have to say, i like it. >> i like it. i mean. >> look. >> look. >> i think there's a time and a place for children. i don't think that's it. >> well. >> well. >> the thing is, i think as a mother there's definitely a double standard. so as men, am i right, ladies? let me know. men can take their kids into the office and everyone goes, oh, isn't it sweet? whereas if that was a female member of that administration with her child there, i think she'd be accused of being unprofessional. i think she'd be somebody say, can you not find childcare when she comes to work? and yet men have a different standard when it comes to that kind of thing. it's happened. i remember when i had my first child, and my husband and i both had a meeting on the same day, and my mum wasn't available to help with granny day care that day. and i said, well, who's going to have it? and he said, i'll take him to the meeting with me. it was a newspaper, a telegrap