now "being chris sununu." we were just re-elected a republican governor in a purple state, so what's it like to be you right now given the fact you're a republican at a very interesting time for the gop? >> i see it as an opportunity. >> how? >> great opportunity. i think the opportunity is, you know, helping potential candidates, hopefully inspiring the next generation of republicans to step up. hopefully inspiring folks to realize it isn't as partisan as maybe the last few years have really been. it doesn't have to be that way and voters don't want it that way, so we have an opportunity to kind of embrace that and go forward with good republican conservative ideals to get more stuff done. >> the mid-term election was not the red wave a lot of republicans predicted. why? >> bad candidates. yeah, we did not have the right candidates that came out of a lot of our primaries, and i think they lost sense of the priorities of the republican party, of the independent voter. the extremism, the election denial, all of

. >> sununu defines himself in a way most republicans do not. where are you on the republican spectrum? >>> all over the place. >> when you say extreme, so how would you define yourself? >>> i just think i tried to be as normal and genuine as i can be. i don't share my philosophy, coaching my friends pulls or were about to try to be very approachable and to be very d data-based. >> are you modern? >>> on social items this issues i am are monitoring a whole can speak on fiscal issues and much more conservative and i am part of that. >> you on a fourth term as governor of new hampshire for more than 15 percentage points. but all three federal gop candidates there lost. >> so the listener they were th wrong candidate because they were too extreme? >>> for the state, yes, absolutely, yeah. i mean, i supported them. >> relates like election denier then bulldog whom sununu did no support in the primary. >> he's not a serious candidate he's really not the kind of a conspiracy theorist kind of candidate keysi batista back to gop senate candidate in the

dana bash spent time with the governor chris sununu. in this chapter being chris sununu.sident again and brings up a potential rival unprompted. >> given what happened after the 2020 election. >> yeah. >> the conspiracies, the, frankly, lies that he peddled about the election and then what happened on january 6th, is he fit to be president again? >> i just don't think he's going to be president again. >> but do you think he should be president again? >> no. because he's done his time. he's done his service. we're moving on. we are. as a country, as a party, we want the next idea, we want the next generations, whatever it is. to say we'll be a country where the best opportunity for our future leadership is the leadership of yesterday is frankly un-american. we're just taking the next step. thank you for your service. we're moving on. >> thank you for a historic landslide victory. >> reporter: he even brought up florida governor ron desantis unprompted as a stronger potential candidate than trump. >> there's an argument to be made someone like desantis could beat him in a p

is it called "being sununu". >> being chris sununu. >> watch this. >> that's why when the former president announced he's running for president a week after the election, everyone went okay. he's announcing he's running at his most politically weak point. he's doing it from a point of weakness from whatever his agenda is. it's a blip on the radar. there's an argument to be made he's not even a front runner. >> sununu always had a unique relationship with trump, critical at times. >> we know the president speaks in hyperbole tweets and all that. >> would you like the former president to campaign with you? >> i don't need anyone to campaign with me. >> he doesn't define chris sununu or even the republican party. >> but he escaped trump's counter punch. >> you managed to walk this line that most republicans have not. how? >> well, you know, early on, when he became president, we made it really clear, both with him, we had a relationship, and with the white house, look when he does things with policy -- if he does things that deserve credit i'll be the first one to stand up and give credit. bu

he has to go to washington and do that. >> when we talked before the election, sununu was confident.enate race? >> yeah. >> right now, maggie is ahead. >> yep. >> what is your prediction? >> i think both will win. yeah. >> that say bold prediction. >> not if you know the state. >> he lost by over 9%. >> when you and i talked in october, you said that the republicans were going to win here. >> yeah. >> and you said when i talk to you after the election, are you going to be saying, i he told you so? you're not. >> no. no. look, i totally misjudged that one here. >> what else can we expect from this excellent, excellent interview? >> what is interesting is that he says after that that he misjudged it, kind of for the similar reason that's chuck schumer was giving, obviously they have a very different perspective on most things. but it is that he realized just like other republicans realized because they didn't do as nearly as well as they thought in the mid terms that the american people, they can't even think about the things about their lives even, you know, kitchen table issues hike

. >> charles: that was chris sununu telling neil cavuto about his plans for 2024.with some new fox poll showing a lot of voters are not liking forward to a biden trump rematch. let's go to sarah westwood. both parties have similar but unique problems here. right? with respect to the republican party, whether president trump runs or not, former president trump, there's still trumpianism in the room. the only one seems like that they can carry that mantel or that baton is governor ron desantis. what are you seeing? >> trump in a lot of ways shifted the center of the republican party. i don't know that governor sununu represents where the energy in the republican party is right now. that's write desantis is so popular. sununu represents the old guard, the pro business, the very middle of the road kind of republican that has helped him be successful in a blue state like new hampshire. but broadly speaking throughout the country, desantis has shown a way to wage those culture war fights in education, you know, on immigration, on a lot of issues that republicans care abo

. >>> republican governor chris sununu just won a fourth term as new hampshire's leader.s not one that includes donald trump, but sununu did suggest someone whom he thought could lead the grand old party moving forward. >> reporter: given what happened after the 2020 election, the conspiracies, the frankly lies that he peddled about the election and then what happened on january 6th, is he fit to be president again? >> i just don't think he's going to be president again. >> reporter: but do you think he should be president again? >> no, because he's -- he's done his time. he's done his service. we're moving on. we are. as a country, as a party. we have the next idea. the next generation. whatever it is. so to say we're going to be a country where the best opportunity for our future leadership is the leadership of yesterday, that's frankly unamerican. we're taking the next step. thank you for your service, we're moving on. >> thank you for historic landslide victory. >> reporter: he even brought up florida governor ron desantis unprompted as a stronger potential candidate

one of my favorite guests, new hampshire governor chris sununu.would you be for shutting down -- i know it has come up among certain governors, enough already at tiktok. what is good and bad is not good enough to stick around in your state and by extension this country? >> we let in terms of banning tiktok from our state run devices but the message, this is not about 13-year-old girls on tiktok. the average person using tiktok is in their 20s and 30s, not just for dancing around but a lot of different things. we are banning it because it is a clear, unquestionable risk. anyone in government who thinks it is not is looking the other way but we want to change the message, we want parents to understand and communities to understand the risk that tiktok faces. it is not just tiktok. there are other apps, they could be wall way or ali baba and other apps, affiliated with other entities that also present similar risks. i don't want people to think it is just about tiktok. this is a new existential threat, a new form of cyber security breach which is one

to the middle, probably the governor of new hampshire saying welcome to write am and where i.chris sununu, what did you mae of this move? >> it's a lot of it being a title. she's not changing her philosophy or principles or anything like that. she's a bit of a wild card and keeps schumer from going too far left and i don't think anything fundamentally has changed. does it mean we'll get immigration reform like america wants? no. does it mean we'll get healthcare reform like america wants? no. does it mean we'll start balancing budgets? no, not out of washington. nothing fundamentally changes and more to a defense of her position and what might be coming in '24 back in arizona. >> neil: you know, governor, your point is a lot of republicans were hopeful till they realized she'll caucus with the democrats and it is still a democrat-dominated senate and that doesn't change. message for republicans then would be what? >> do your job. let's go back to the message. today is the same as the message six months ago, do your job and get results. deliver on what you've promised america. work in a bi

governor sununu talked to you about a very serious health scare he recently had. >> yes.ect from somebody as young as he is. he just turned 48 but he almost died and we talked about that in the context of how it changed his perspective on things. >> i thought i had covid. i was exhausted all day for about a week. i thought you know, the holiday weekend, labor day is coming up. i better get checked out. sure enough i had been bleeding inside all week. i had a bleeding ulcer. i only had about one-third of my blood levels the way they should be. they had to start the transfusions immediately. i thought i had the flu or covid and the next thing i know i got four transfusions over a period of 24 hours. they saved me. it was great. >> saved you. >> yeah. they said ultimately you probably just would have fallen asleep and not woken up and you would have never known because i was bleeding out potentially. it was kind of scary. i'm 47. i like to consider myself 26. >> 47 is young to have health scare like that. >> it is. so you got to manage your stress. everybody does. >> you kno

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governor sununu in new hampshire and governor dousy in arizona. people wanted me to run in pennsylvania but i'm not going to run in the party right now where people have to be a trumpian guy. trump has caused enormous damage to the party. until the republican national committee and the state committees wake up and realize that their job is to nominate electable candidates who do not offend independent and swing voters, they're more concerned about pledging loyalty to donald trump than they are to winning, they're going to have more disaster. i hope this is the breaking point. it may not be. >> we've had people hoping for this breaking point in the past. you mentioned jeff duncan and it does speak volumes when a republican says -- their lieutenant governor said he could not bring himself to vote for the republican candidate. thank you, panel. stay with me. we'll be right back. >>> still to come, it's a bad week to be donald trump from a tax fraud conviction in the much courts and a loss for his georgia candidate. and we're saving a ton. go to ships

. >> curly and todd good morning chris sununu signing an executive order banning the social media apprt of a growing trend if you will with tiktok a popular app facing increasing scrutiny over fears it could provide a trove of american user data to the chinese government. let me show you a map of some of the many states that are now included among those that have decided tiktok at least as far as state devices are concerned has to go. new hampshire, alabama, maryland, oklahoma, south carolina, south dakota, utah, texas, nebraska, georgia, idaho, utah, tennessee and even iowa too appeared in the meantime the latest fox news survey shows tiktok despite its popularity among young americans overall has an unfavorable advantage 50-40 with the latest fox news survey. a little bit under the water there. at the white house press secretary karine jean-pierre frankly isn't saying very much about more possible plans of tiktok. and that we fear is by design. >> we want to be very careful on counting on specific legislation at this time. we will refer you to congress on the next steps. don't get i

we have ha lot of special guests coming up including governor chris sununu of new hampshire. often mentioned as a possible presidential candidate. one of earliest donald trump critics republicans have to move on, given a lot of developments that transpired since. he was prescient on that. what does that mean going forward for the economy, could be the wind at present white house's back, or problem for republicans down the road. anyone's guess. susan li has been following the backdrop for this market and some other currents, even all the way over to japan. good to see you, kiddo. >> reporter: good to see you as well. neil: are you back on twitter? >> reporter: no, still not on it. neil: really? >> reporter: do you even use it? neil: why do you assume? >> reporter: he still hates you. hate is strong word. loathe possibly. you're doing a badge of honor, journalist doing your job, finding the truth. neil: still suspended. >> reporter: correct. make you can do something about that. neil: i try not to interfere with your battles. report report the portfolio in your rolodex, you kno

that's the reason why new hampshire governor chris sununu just signed a bill creating a state emergencystance program which provides a stipend to individuals struggling to cover increased fuel costs. stating that he knew if he didn't do anything, he couldn't rely on the federal government. >> i think the house is completely incompetent when it comes to understanding energy policy in america. everything they do is for a political reason. as opposed to what are the costs? where's the infrastructure? cold is so dangerous in a place like new england everyone is susceptible. those on fixed income, the elderly. political incompetence literally putting people's lives at risk. >> the community is also stepping up here in the state. gap fill the ghap subsidies is not enough. people get wood for free for wood burning stoves. prevents people making dangerous choice between turning off the heat and other necessities. we heard one such story yesterday. >> telling me this is a lifesaver, that's her exact quotes. because if she had not had this wood bank, she would not have been able to heat her house

this was among the many issues i raised with chris sununu, the new hampshire governor, that said theat this. >> are you going to run for president? you're in new hampshire. it's the first in the republican party, the kickoff primary. that gives you a certain advantage. you could make a credible case. would you join the frey? >> i have to see my application to be the ceo of twit tore come through. if that doesn't come through, all options are on the table. people are talking about it. i get it. we're having conversations. right now my focus is on new hampshire. >> neil: all right. more of the political chatter. if we hear anything out of the house ways and means committee and what they're going to do about the trump taxes, we'll keep you posted. what we do know is half a world away in ukraine, it's all fight, all the time. russia getting deadlier and nastier by the moment. we'll have the latest from there after this. so get relief fast. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast for fast pain relief. and now get relief without a pill with tyle

. >> so the new hampshire governor, chris sununu, he is the latest to say you cannot use tiktok on anyd device. he says employees have 30 days to remove it from your state networks. that is number 14. there are 14 states so far that have ban it on state devices. >> brian: it's silicon valley. wherever you are on social media. go mirror what tiktok does and you will be extremely rich. huge lobbyists. very well-known lobbyists. working capitol hill to make sure tiktok is not taken out entirely. one person that understands what goes on and has got his ear to the ground pulls pulse of the pe is joe rogan it came up on his podcast. >> i know it exists. overthat like facebook, twitter. >> you don't have any of those. >> no. instagram. i just went on tiktok recently. >> oh, no. that's the worst. >> oh my god no, it's amazing. >> chinese spyware. >> i know it is. >> i mean, it really. >> i know it really is. >> should be illegal. >> i mean everyone is already bleend i spent two years investigating preparing a piece on trump and russia. went to ukraine. my -- that horse left the barn a while ag

or governor sununu in new hampshire. this is what donald trump has done to the party.hen has losing become okay? as caroline pointed out. 2018 a disaster, 2020 was the presidency. 2022, here we go. dramatic underperforming. largely because of donald trump's unhelpful intervention. so the party needs to get its head straight about winning. parties are designed for one reason. to win elections, and until the republican national committee. and others determine that their role is to elect the better candidates and not just be loyal to a deeply flawed individual. who company was just convicted today for criminal tax fraud. the job is to nominate good quality candidates. who don't just pledge allegiance to this man. we're gonna continue down this road. so, when does winning become the primary consideration for the party. they need to get back there, they're not there. they lost their way. top to bottom. >> yeah, it's a very good point. and it's something that mitch mcconnell saw on the wall, the writing on the wall along time ago. i think you're poignant about the fact that

. >>> joining me now, the republican governor of new hampshire, chris sununu. thank you for coming on. this is an interesting moment that we have today especially as we're coming off as we talk about the oral arguments because you have two things happening at the same time which the case and then you have congress sending a bill to offer protection for same-sex couples. it feels like unity on one niside and a major fight on the other. what do you think this said about where the country is now? >> you have two separate bodies and one is going to look at the constitution and one should look at the law. a and the justices shouldn't be making law and congress shouldn't decide what is legal and what isn't. they pass the laws. so it is -- a lot of this is effectively been turned to the states. i think where the country is on same-sex marriage is very obvious. it is very clear. i think new hampshire was one of the first states to legalize same-sex marriage. and we're moving on. whatever congress wants to pass, we have no problem at all. but for these, these aren't the

judy: so we have one voice, governor sununu, saying they can wait.ers saying i am going to think about it over the holidays. is this a device or is it really happening? >> i think a little bit of both. thinking about it over the holidays also includes looking at polling numbers, talking to donors. of course they are talking to the family. they are doing exactly what needs to be done to know if they are able to run a viable campaign. maybe after the holidays when they are trying to consider if they are going to run or not, all these things are being taken into consideration. what's critical is are they going to peotter out? has someone like ron desantis peaked too soon? judy: speaking of the republicans, it sounds like republicans are more open to challenges to former president trump. tamara: what i will say about former president trump is a few days after the midterms that were pretty disastrous for his party, he announced he is running for election again. and he has done basically nothing that looklike a presidential candidate. he has not left flori

catch the premier of being chris sununu tomorrow night 10:00 p.m. eastern right here after "360" on cnn. tonight a special royal revelations starts now. ♪ >>> good evening everyone. this is a cnn tonight special. "royal revelations." in the hour ahead we're going to examine the media phenomenon that is the netflix documentary called "harry and meghan." why is it the most watched documentary debut ever for netflix? why have people around the world watched more than 81 million hours' worth of this? is it because of all of the blockbuster accusations in it or do we all just like to see good looking people struggling behind the scenes? maybe we relish royal drama. maybe everyone is hungry to hear what harry actually says to his brother behind closed doors. how is it going over in britain? we'll find out. what does buckingham palace think about it? we'll find out. maybe the phenomenon is we're all suckers for a fairy tale or vipers for a fractured fairy tale. really i have so many questions. whatever it is, something is going on with the popularity of th

new hampshire's governor chris sununu calling trump's comment outrageous.t directly criticizing trump instead saying public servants should defend the constitution. interestingly senator ted cruz wouldn't answer when asked by cnn moments ago for a response to trump's comment. wouldn't answer at all which is odd because cruz so often describes himself as a staunch defender of the constitution as his identity. >> i've spent my life fighting to defend the constitution. listen. i'm a constitutionalist. >> does it depend how you define it? outfront now our senior data reporter. so, harry, look. for years we've seen republicans be silent or make excuses or, you know, try to run away from trump's outrageousness because of his influence with the republican base. ted cruz knows that that's his identity and yet he just refused to answer the question when we asked him about what trump said. is trump still that popular with the republican base that that would justify something like that? >> you know, we can get into cruz in a minute but i would just say this. the nbc n

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desantis jumps into the race, whether governor abbott of texas, whether he jumps into the race, governor sununujumps into the race. then we will see how much staying power donald trump has. as for president biden, the fact that 35% of democrats want him to run for reelection doesn't tell me a whole lot because democrats have been wringing their hands about president biden since the man took the oath of office, and i would like for all of them to chill out. he is just two years into the first term. let the man do his job. and when he does his job, as we have seen over this last year alone, the dude gets stuff done. stop the handwringing, let him do his job, and let him decide whether he wants to run for reelection, which i think he will. judy: what do you think? david: i am with jonathan. democratic voters can be a pain in the rear end. he has passed a lot of legislation, masterfully orchestrated an effort against russia. she has more or less won the midterms. what more do you want? so he is older than some people, but he has had a successful presidency as far as i can tell. this is not just abo

seeing the midterms, hey, this might be an opening for me to run, whether asa hutchinson or chris sununu. i think they have a good case to make for just kind of a change. we've run a state and done it effectively and kind of putting this trump era behind us. that could be formidable even against a ron desantis. >> ron desantis hasn't been tested nationally. >> correct. >> that's a point to be made as well. great to have you on. >> thank you. >>> survivors of the club q shooting delivered emotional testimony on capitol hill today. hear their stories about the rise in violence and threats they're seeing. that's coming up next. >> hate speech turns into hate action and actions based on hate almost took my life from me at 25 years old. pre-rinsing your dishes? you could be using the wrong detergent. and wasting up to 20 gallons of water. skip the rinse with finish quantum. its activelift thnology provides an unbeatable clean on 24 hour dri-on stains. with gold bond... you can age on your own terms. new retinol overnight means the smoothing benefits of retinol are now for your whole body. plu

if you have someone like chris sununu and other mainstream republican, if they had been nominees across country, you would have had a better time. host: do you think the party has responded well to the lessons learned in the midterm, or is it too early to tell? guest: i think it is too early we do see signs that the republican party is moving away from donald trump and moving towards ron desantis. he won his reelection by 19 points in florida. it is time that they got the message. there are other reasons for concern, if you are a republican. it looks like they are about to reelect the chair, which shows that they are not hitting the panic button. i also think that part of success requires professionalism and competence. usually, the team that is in disarray are the losers. in this case, the republicans won the house but it is unclear if kevin mccarthy will be speaker and if he is, it is unclear if he once to be. it is not an easy job. democrats, the party that lost, they are having this seamless transition where nancy pelosi is essentially naming her hand-picked successor. so i think th

if you have someone like chris sununu and other mainstream republican, if they had been nominees across country, you would have had a better time. host: do you think the party has responded well to the lessons learned in the midterm, or is it too early to tell? guest: i think it is too early we do see signs that the republican party is moving away from donald trump and moving towards ron desantis. he won his reelection by 19 points in florida. it is time that they got the message. there are other reasons for concern, if you are a republican. it looks like they are about to reelect the chair, which shows that they are not hitting the panic button. i also think that part of success requires professionalism and competence. usually, the team that is in disarray are the losers. in this case, the republicans won the house but it is unclear if kevin mccarthy will be speaker and if he is, it is unclear if he once to be. it is not an easy job. democrats, the party that lost, they are having this seamless transition where nancy pelosi is essentially naming her hand-picked successor. so i think th