supervisorsupervisor mirkarimi's go back to the system in marin. the rate structure mirrors that of pg&e. in their initial phase, they have focused on customers -- they zero. -- their only offering it to customers that typically in the tiers 4 anad 5 ranges. they offer dark green service that customers can opt into. it is a 100% green product. supervisor mirkarimi: how much more expensive is that? >> mike campbell of sfpuc. the with a grain product is offered for marin is 1.5 cents more per kilowatt hour. it is one paying more per hour. it is the same structure. it is targeting the hired usgher usage customers. supervisor mirkarimi: are we talking about the same structure? >> pricing wise, yes. we are looking at bringing you further information about the other 100% green programs offered in california. we know that palo alto and others have the programs. compared to the other prices, marin and san francisco look comparable period supervisor mirkari. i believe the first capture was 9000. it may have eroded down to 8000. they have been operational --