that includes the supreme court.ito. >> in his latest new york times column published before yesterday's new york tis report about the second flag signifying support for trumps attempt to illegally overturn the last election flying over a home owned by supreme court justice samuel alito, [ inaudible ] wrote there is no question justice alito is a genuine republican partisan who is more than willing to share views that echo narratives aired throughout conservative media. it is not that far-fetched to think of supreme court justice might have internalized the extreme views of the insurrectionist right. there is every reason, and then some to think that a leader believe many of the same things that any other republican of his age and ideological disposition might also believe, especially when his social world seems to consist of similarly like-minded, goal oriented partisans. joining our discussion now is host of the podcast, in clear and present danger. >> your column really made me think of samuel alito more clearly.

and■m there's a lot of discussin among people who follow the supreme court and think about the supremeent in that kind background compared to the background of today's justices. well, when you think about some of the cases momentarily which become sstrikingly contradict in ways you mentioned one it's it's interesting to wonder about what that experience brought as well their very large personality is of some ofhem i think it's interesting you put the four in the and the four because there seemthe ones who are very quiet, you don't see in the news and then the ones who are at least engage in sort of, say, rivalries. well, that's a very, very interesting point about the fdr justices. so we were talking about the number that he had appointed, you know, seven of the nine eight elevated to chief justice. and at the=4 time that the roosevelt court really shape in the many observers and predicted that the justices were going to march in lockstep were you know, they were all very close to fdr or hadxtensive relationships with them. and so people thought they were going to, you know, act in uni

of course, many critics, the current court believe that the many of the decisions of the supreme courtincluding the shelby county decisionuck down a part of the voting act of 1965. so critics, the current court, think it reflects door closing approach to voting rights. in contrast. smith vers there's one other area that we haven't touched on that was very the issu that perhaps united the any other was the need for government as well as state governments to broadauthority in tackling complex economic problems, social problems novel crises that was the sort of fundamental reaction against the pre 1937 court and that was really and the supreme court doing war two upheld these very extensive rationing and price other that governed the that we had for the next quarters of a ent court there are many doctrines that ar play now that the court is supporting that would dramatically the ability o respond to complex problems and novel crises. one is the what's called the brand new major questions doctrine which the current supreme court has invoked to strike down government initiatives on. issues

by the supreme court.rst time in my life i heard people who spent their lives respecting the supreme court suddenly saying that the supreme court had become just another partisan institution. many people, me included, tried to think of it as a single decision that was a close call that looked partisan. but might not be. time would tell. if the supreme court had become another warm of republican governments. now, 24 years later, it is worse than anyone thought in 2000. after the bush v gore decision. samuel alito was the first and only supreme court heckler during a state of the union address. samuel alito disgraced himself and the supreme court when he decided he had something to say during the state of the union by the first black president of the united states. >> last week, the supreme court reversed a century of law that i believe will open the flood gates for special interests including foreign corporations to spend without limit in our election. >> there was alito saying not true. when president obam

court beginning the 1950s. but there was very written and the supreme and world war two. dominated everything for the justices. itwhether they were directly related to the war or not, an it also dominated their lives off of the court. the let me just tell you two brief anecdotes that i think really kind of illustrate point. and the first was tntleman who 0 years oldnd pearl hhe was 18 yed was working as an aide at the supreme court in liar after peal harbor day on december 8th, 1941, he was doing what a library aide does dropping off books, picking up sudden the frt door, he saw all of these u.s. army soldiers come with their weapons drawn ande positions at the windows and the roof all around the court. and the reason was because at noon that at the capitol, rights the street from the supreme that's where he gave his famous day of infamy speech. that december 7th is a date which will live in infamy. and in fact, the justices adjourned early. so that they could go there and there. and the soldiers were there as part of an expanded security perimeter. this was just one day a

only 34% of americans approve of the supreme court, a historic low. the public backlash has not matter to this right wing court. nothing suggests they have been chastened. they continue to put right wing policy adjustments ahead of principal legal reasoning. they continued their crusade against voting rights. justice alito wrote the majority overturning established precedent to reverse the review of racial gerrymandering. it will make nearly impossible to challenge gerrymandering on the basis of race in the future. thert is willing to substitute ideology over precedent and rule of law. in a number of cases, could ripple out across the country. another set of cases, push to end women's rights and undermine the federal government's ability to step in and protect the right to essential reproductive health care and bodily a tommy. and of course the january 6 ■/cases have a resounding the supreme court actionsrican throughout, unnecessarily delaying a ruling on donald trump's absurd argument that the president should be held immune from all legal resource -

he had devoted his life to studying the supreme court writing about it. he had close to these judicial icons like oliver wendell holmes ands. and he thought was his natural fate. and destiny to lead the court and for the other justices to fall line behind him and the other justices didn't quite see it that really bothered frankfurter. he was. and in fact, during the war years, during some of the war years, he kept a journal and a diary. and in it he recorded every grievance and perceived unhappy it and he even took to calling the other justices black and douglas and murphy and rutledge the axis. now is at the height of world war two when we're fighting the axis enemies, you know. 1 when justice started calling another group of justices al qaida. but it also was not a one way street. for example, there are from douglass toeriod where he refers to frankfurter as der fÜhrer and the little --. so there's all of personal enmity then among the justand. what i find interesting with that, too, and then i'll focus to some of the cases in what's going on, both inand

supreme courts r court. >> steve: we have florida republican senator marco rubio.orning. >> steve: we have heard for months that the democrats were looking forward to him being convicted to refer to him as convicted felon. we were talking to mark penn, the pollster, this is bo boomeranging and igniting donald trump's base and people who were not on his side are going, i don't know if that is fair. >> we have to divide political aspect of this. from political side, this is a big win. trump's website last night crashed, . you just walk out and not talking about people in studios in new york and washington, d.c., you guys excluded, that are giddy about this. wherever i was, kyrstecnn was o air and you hear somebody on the set, not jake, somebody giggling and cheering and gasping and they were joyful about what happened. you take those people aside, average person, they convicted him of felony because he categorized payment to his lawyer as a legal expense, that is a felony? when you tell him the judge was open biden supporter, the daughter democratic operative, the d.

, i know you guys looked at his tweets, supreme court, supreme court, the whole texas case of which now speaker mike johnson was the tip of the spear, as liz cheney keeps reminding us all to rally u.s. congressional support for, was a device to get stop the steal in front of the supreme court? take us back in time to how integral in trump's view in your investigation the supreme court was? >> yeah. so the whole political coup, nicole, depending upon reliable republicans in congress or on the supreme court, being willing to go along with this crazy theory of john eastman's that you could reject certified slates of lectors, get it to the house of representatives. john eastman actually suggested that supreme court potentially would avoid getting involved because it was a political question, which would then kick this to congress, where the president and former president and his co-conspirators believed the fact that they control 26 or 27 of the state legislators, they could get it thrown into the house, they could win. all of this depended upon the false belief that republican office h

>> i think the question is, how many mega battle flags does the supreme court justice after fly until the rest of the court takes it seriously, a prominent republican senator fins alito, i just think democrats are determined to harass members of the supreme court. >> obviously, they don't like justice alito or the decisions makes. >> alito so far has not explained the appeal to heaven flag. he said the upside down flag was raised by his wife in response to a dispute with neighbors scholars say the appeal to heaven flag was first flown during the revolutionary war as a symbol against british tyranny. but now some believe it means something different. >> now the flag symbolizes both at the nation that we live in should be a christian nation, but also that the steel of the 2020 election should be stopped alito's flags are drawing concern because there are multiple cases before the supreme court involving the 2020 election and january 6, including the pivotal question of whether trump can claim immunity on election subversion charges a critic of the supreme court says, alito should recuse

from the supreme court of the united states all the way down to the district courts, wherever they are. trial courts in florida or anywhere. this is what you can get away with. this is who you can be. >> absolutely and when you connected to donald trump, the congress people outside of the courthouse in matching ties and blue suits. justice alito and flying repeated flags and coming up with the most absurd story as to what seemed to justify it. the idea that this is the supreme court of the united states and you have might makes right as the symbol of what you should be embodying and this country is supposed to stand for the opposite, which is right makes might, really since this horrible signal. not just to the electorate and to donald trump and people in congress, but also the lower courts of judges thinking you know what? i'm going to be protected. >> bradley moss, this latest turn, very slow turn in florida today. when it comes down to it judge cannon has ruled against dismissal motions before in this case. likely ruling against these dismissal motions, but with her, who knows? >> i

forces donald trump, which the supreme court is currently considering. is an ethical crisis of its own making and justice alito and the rest of the court should be doing everything in their power to regain public trust." joining us is member's wall well who served in the second impeachment of donald trump and is suing trump over the january 6 riot. we also have a former united states attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law in cohost of "sisters-in-law" and a senior fellow at the brennan center for justice at nyu law. good evening and thank you for joining us. congressman, let's start with you. as i read this, and had this conversation with my executive producer, saying i think we should wait to see whether he has a reasonable explanation like he always puts the flag upside down, whatever, he offered an explanation and at no point did he say that he shouldn't have done that or didn't mean it to be a symbol that it came off as, he let it hang out that we have him hang that upside down. or his wife did. >> it's an excuse, not a reas

you are a supreme court justice.e a lot of media attention and speculation about your houses and what kind of flag there they are flying the american flag upside down. if i did that -- i'm a young guy. what happens about calling cap -- find the flag upsidedown, ty image of unpatriotic. host: recent opedark c -- by■ it goes both ways but they are supposed to be idd. it's what you think is done for the american people. it goes beyond that. host: finish your thought. er: i'm saying if you go beyond t rick in boston giving his thoughts and you can join in thr democrats, republicans and independents (202) 748-8001. rudy is next. caller: when you arepp conservative or liberal president if opinions don't match what's going on in this country, you've got a right to turn that flag upside down. this country is upside down because of the democratic party. think that's justice. their opinion. it's ee flag upside down don' be court justice, what you think of the appropriateness? caller:■othat should have anything to do with the j

i'm a supreme court litigator. i argued cases in front of the supreme court. >> i know i tried to look through history and precedent and the best precedent i could find was the election of 18761876, was between rutherford b. >> hayes and samuel tilden. what happened there? there were serious allegations of voter fraud and congress didn't throw its hands up and say, you know what cnn demanded that accept the results no matter what. so ignore the fraud. i can go francis, so but hold on. what it comes how did congress do in a president handle what did congress do in 18, 18, 76 center. >> i'm asking you to this question is asking a question, what did congress do an answer, yes or no to this question can you answer my question? >> why? are you refusing to match mine? i'm conducting the interview with but honor. but let me ask you, won't it's republicans have twisted themselves in knots. it's just a guess. >> if i'm answering your question, just don't like, man, what's your answer? is it yes, sir. is it no. so in 18 76,

constitution and the federal judiciary to expand educational outreach to the public about the supreme court'shistory. it is a pleasure to host the program this evening here. tonight's lecture and conversation as you heard comes just days after the 70th anniversary of the court's decision in brown v board of education. given the history it is quite meaningful for us to be in the courtroom tonight to take part in the commemoration of brown. in a few moments we will have the privilege of hearing how he resides in the same courthouse in charleston south carolina where the judge once served. you will learn a great deal about him tonight. judge richard is a native of south carolina and grandson of russian and polish and jewish immigrants. he is a graduate of duke university and the duke university school of law. he practiced law in columbia south carolina for 30 years specializing in complex civil litigation before president obama nominated him as he was district judge and he was confirmed by the senate by unanimous consent in august of 2010. shortly after the confirmation, he discovered that his m

supreme court. how did the supreme court become literally married to extremists?, i guess i want to just put aside what we are going to hear in the coming days, which is that it is sexist to judge either misses alito or misses thomas, right? we heard over and over again how dare critics of justices thomas and alito try to muzzle and silence their wives who are independent agents and can do what they want. i mean, clearly if you look at the ethics rules, it has nothing to do with muzzling your wife. it has to do with evincing the appearance that you have a dog in this fight. that is the end of the question. and clearly, with ginni thomas is making phone calls to legislators or she is texting mark meadows to say set aside the election results that you are compromised. it has nothing to do with subordinating women. >> when we come back, our next guest says there's absolutely no way justices alito and clarence thomas should be rolling or deciding on cases involving donald trump and jan. 6 appear calling this latest revelation beyond disturbing. a key member of the sen

they are regular people, not supreme court justices. and they could not know that they had a fair hearing in the supreme court. >> i was trying to be as rational as i could about this and giving justice alito the benefit of the doubt, thinking perhaps he will explain that from time to time he puts the flag on the wrong way or something like this happens. he made no such effort. he made a statement to the new york times and a statement of fox news and at no point did he seem to identify the issue, that this is a symbol or at least at the time was a symbol of something. he did not disavow the symbol. he didn't do anything about it. from a legal perspective, what could have been an accident or a thing that happened in a moment in time, though hard to explain, how does this play into the fact that this is a justice on the supreme court now hearing a case directly related to something that he seems to have made a very public political statement about? >> he is actually hearing two cases directly related to january 6, one brought by the convi

alito istialitiesering those efforts by the rest of the supreme court or some of the rest of the supreme court.re it's not going to lead to a good place for them because, again, that really is the only place they derive their power from. when they lose respect, they lose authority. >> yeah, that's such a good point, mark. it also feels like he's doing it because he can, because he knows that there is no accountability. >> right. >> it is owning the libs in the most spectacular fashion. >> right. it's like who's going to stop me. markwh to talkedin about the implicit bargain, but part of trumpism hasrt always been to disregard all those implicit bargains, all those norms. it's always been who's going to stop me. justice alito clearly could care less about whether his exercise of power is seen as legitimate in the eyes of people who disagree with him. i think that's where it ties in justice alito is a catholic, a new species of pept costallism. in they see the right to rule for certain citizens and a sort of lesser citizenship for everyone else, i think it very much fits in with this. who

have just alerted me to, that flag is a signal from the highest level of the judiciary from the supreme court of the united states, all the way down to those district courts, wherever they are. the trial courts in florida or anywhere. this is what you can get away with. this is who you can be. >> absolutely. and you can connect it to donald trump, the congress people who are outside of the courthouse. to justice alito and his flying repeated flags and coming up with the most absurd story as to justify it. and the idea that this is, that the supreme court of the united states, you have might makes right as the symbol of what you should be embodying. it sends this horrible symbol not just to the electorate. and to donald trump. >> bradley moss, this latest turn, very slow turn in florida. when it comes down to it, judge cannon has ruled against dismissal motions before in this case. likely probably to rule against these dismissal motions. but, with her, who knows? >> yeah. i don't think anybody realistically believes she is going to be throwing out any part of this indictment. i don't think any

i think that the level of corruption and conflict of interest that have plagued the supreme court havely contributed to the lowest ever ratings of trust of the american people and the highest court of the land and i think he has to recuse himself from the 2020 election cases before him. but i don't know if he will. >> i think that is where americans become frustrated. at least those of us paying attention and as you say, this is a court that does not seem to be held to account. you have people blame to the chief justice saying, he should be able to get his own house in order and clearly he is not up to the task. they are not being held to a code of ethics that would allow a forceful recusal for them. there has been interest on the part of the senate judiciary to considering an investigation into what has happened here. for americans who are saying, how to behold this institution to account, what is the answer? >> i think the answer is that justice roberts is clearly not holding them to account. the code of ethics he put out has no enforcement whatsoever pick it is a weak cold to start

alito is shattering those efforts by the rest of the supreme court, or some of the rest of the supreme court. it is not going to lead to a good place for them, because again that is really the only place they drive their power from. they don't have an army to drive their decisions. when they lose respect, they lose authority. >> that is such a good point, mark. it almost feels like he is doing it because he can, because he knows that there is no accountability. >> right. >> it is owning the libs in the most spectacular fashion. >> right. it is like, who is going to stop me? the two things that mark said, he talked about the implicit bargain that the supreme court has with the united states. or, pardon me, with the american people. but, part of trumpism has always been to disregard those implicit bargains, all of those norms. it has always been, who is going to stop me? and so, justice alito clearly could care less about whether his exercise of power is seen as legitimate in the eyes of the people who disagree with him, and i think that is where it ties in, justice alito as a catholic,

i look at the supreme court judge's race, where janice was elected because of her pledge to protect reproductivehe court. i think that while, yes, voters do know donald trump, and they don't like him, and that is why, you know, it is strategic to remind the voters of who he is, but also what he has said he will do. and i vividly remember, you know, i worked for senator sanders in 2015, 2016, and going into that general election, donald trump was saying a host of insane things. he stood on a debate stage with secretary clinton and made what we all thought at the time were frankly wild and just not rooted in reality claims, and then he became president, and now he tried to act on many of them. now, donald trump is not, you know, shrinking around in the shadows, whispering about what he plans to do if he's reelected president. he's telling us very loudly. he himself is saying he'll be a dictator on day one. he's using the language of the project 2025 document that republican strategists have told me is a foundation for the what the next trump administration will be. you have to be clear with voters

the supreme court sided with south carolina republicans and their map. court's conservative majority said the plaintiffs did not prove their claim that it was redrawn on the basis of race. the opinion, written by justice samuel alito, will make it harder for plaintiffs to make challenges like this one going forward. today president biden condemned the decision saying it undermines the basic principle that voting practices should not discriminate on account of race, and that is wrong. the president went on to say this is part of a dangerous pattern from republicans to dilute the will of black voters. speaking of the supreme court and justice alito, we talked about it last night, he is facing even more backlash, including from some republicans over new reports that not one, but now two flags carried by some january 6th rioters flew outside his homes. the flags were also used by supporters of the stop the steal movement. now some are calling for him to recuse himself from any cases tied to january 6th and donald trump's presidential immunity claim. >> if the

there are some cases pending right now before the supreme court that present the injunction issue squarely will probably see more opinions addressing that over the next couple of years. in the meantime we will go to court. when is an issue of national importance we will seek those national injunctions for that so we can hold this administration to account. the arguments we are having are not arguments around the edges anymore. they go fundamentally to the nature of the rule of law. and the types of actions the administration is taking are so far outside the law i think i anational injunction is very appropriate for that. they certainly are not taking account the law allows them or doesn't allow them to do something. fate before their preferred policy outcomes the south with the constitution works. we all know from our childhood watching schoolhouse rock it comes down to the basics. laws passed, they get signed by the president. it's not bad by an unelected bureaucrat trying to achieve policy goals to the executive branch. >> that's a great segue to journal into the whole concept of chevron

how much of the refusal to recuse himself further erode public trust in the supreme court? for congress to pass ethics reform for the high court? >> it is past time for those reforms to be part of the governing responsibility at the united states supreme court. this is absolutely outrageous. after a we have supreme court justices who show up at a state of the union message and do not applaud for the exact reason that they don't want to be seen as partisan. and if chief justice roberts really does want to return the respect to the courts that the american people expect and the american people deserve, then it is going to be his responsibility to police the behavior of his members on the court and i blame it on my wife excuse is just not going to work anymore. >> donna edwards. it is good to see. come see me again soon. >>> and we have a elevates watch the saturday show with jonathan capehart. he will speak with jamie raskin on all of this capital chaos. that is a 6:00 eastern tonight here on msnbc. >>> president biden and his team intensifying the push for black voters. why s

the supreme court, the united states of america. and you cannot have a semblance of conflict there. d i think actually democrats and republicans who have been on that court would agree on that over the generations. so now we have two justices who have overt conflicts and meanwhile, the court is trying to resist the kind of ethics rules that everyone else in government has to live by. it makes no sense. and i actually wanted to remind everyone the american public does not believe that election was stolen almost two-thirds of americans believe that the 2020 election was the legitimate election, obviously was. so i have a supreme court justice taking a political stand right there. unacceptable, unprecedented out of step with the american people. and then acting like that's not a conflict. it is what would be great if he voluntarily recused himself and showed an honorable approach that might give people some faith and our institutions again, well, and i think when you mentioned clarence thomas, i mean, you think of clarence thomas, his wife, ginni thomas, and her efforts and support of p

you are a supreme court justice. know there will be a lot of media attention and speculation about your houses and what kind of flag there flying. they are flying the american flag upside down. if i did that -- i'm a young guy. what happens about calling cap her neck -- find the flag upside down, to me is the dictionary image of unpatriotic. host: there was a recent oped five mark c -- by host: kevin in massachusetts, independent line. caller: flying the flag upside down has been a sign of distress for a long time, and i listen to a lot of radio, c-span, fox, cnn, cnbc, and i've never heard of dr. steele. it's ridiculous. just because they are a supreme court justice doesn't mean that they do not have the right to free speech. glad you brought up ruth bader ginsburg. where were they when she was out telling people how she thought about roe v. wade? host: regardless of justice ginsburg or justice alito, what do you think about this idea of a higher standard especially if you sit on the court? caller: i think the worst

supreme court justices go from elite schools into elite law jobs than probably court judgeships. and then a supreme court seat, they're not working in factories earlier in life. so you could say that the kinds of scientific information in a case like mueller would have been really because that's not something that the justices would have had rattling around in their mind to begin with. right. so what do you guys think? how comfortable are you with using science as a way to advance a legal argument? now, let's start here. i was just thinking about that and i feel like with people using scientific evidence, it's something that justices can't ignore because if they ignore it, then the public, i mean, their reputation could come under fire for not caring about the people who are supposed to protect and i also feel like it's effective way to kind of give up your judgment on a certain matter because you not the subject matter expert. yeah. so it's like knowledge of in a judicial humility that you don't know all the facts and you can't just get all the facts from first. emma got you did

bryan todd has more supreme court justice samuel alito's physical bearing didn't change this morning when the court announced some opinions, his usual rigid serious expression on display as is typical, the justice betraying no signs of the controversy surrounding him. >> the new york times has reported that a flag that was on display among rioter the capitol on january 6 was flown at justice alito's new jersey vacation residents, at least four times last summer, according to the times that flag with a green pine tree and the words, an appeal to heaven on it was flown at alito's summer home two years after an upside down american flag, a symbol used by donald trump's supporters who challenged the results of the 2020 election was flown at alito's house in northern virginia. that flag on display in 2021, just after the january 6 attack. top democrat on the senate judiciary committee today openly concerned about the conservative justices displays. you start to wonder, is this just a chance and discretion, or is it a conscious declaration of his mega loyalty? >> i think the question is, ho

so now we have not one but two supreme court justices who appear to be at least openly and in supportence thomas have recused themselves of statements decided by this court, right now directly influencing how donald trump and other generally six defendants can be prosecuted for their alleged crimes. democrats are calling on samuel alito to recuse himself immediately including the chairman who said flying an upside down american flag is a symbol of the so-called stop the steel movement, clearly creating the appearance of bias. justice alito should recuse himself immediately from the cases related to the 2020 election and the january 6 insurrection, including immunity. the court is an ethical crisis of its own making and justice alito and the rest of the court should be doing everything in their power to regain public trust. joining us now is the democratic congressman, eric swalwell, he is suing donald trump over the january 6 right. and a former united states attorney and professor at university of alabama school of law and nbc legal analyst and senior fellow at the center for justice

can we go back and talk about the supreme court? just wondering, chief justice, i am sorry, the chief justice, john roberts, does he actually have control of this court? >> i would argue there is no control anytime maga is in the room. that's just the bottom line. and while alito , and while thomas may not have come up through maga amy coney barrett, along with cavanaugh did. we know there is a lot of maga in the room, and alito and thomas came in and wanted to beat maga, but that's not where the republican party was at the time. so now you are looking at a court. roberts is using who we look at for the swing. this is bad. this is really, really bad. is and the fact amy coney barrett maiko with the mifepristone case, like you finally woke up and realized you were a woman, that your children may be affected, i'm not sure what woke her up and made her decide okay maybe i don't need to go this way, but we appreciate her if she does the right thing. >> i was going to say. expect the questioning made it seem like she was on the right tra

in the supreme court, all of us went up talking to groups who come to the court to try to open the door so they can see what is going on and talk about the way we make decisions, delivery approach the constitution. and i think sometimes storytelling can really help draw people in. one story i like to tell which some of you may know, is the story of greg watson, the sophomore in the university of texas who is responsible for the ratification of the 27th amendment. he was writing a college paper and discovered that the amendment, which says a sitting congress can't give itself a pay raise or a pay cut, that amendment had been proposed by james madison in 1789. watson discovered in 1782 --1925 that there was no time limit on its verification and he was single-handedly responsible to get the states to ratify it. when i tell that story to younger students and high-school students, it kind of energizes them. because they think about one person being invested in the constitution and making a difference. so the power of turning stories like that can also help draw people in. >> justice sotomayo

calls are growing for supreme court justice samuel alito to recuse himself from any cases that involve a january 6th assault. donald trump come at election integrity. and this comes after photos surfaced of provocative flags linked to the cap capitol insurrection, being displayed at two homes owned by alito. cbs's scott macfarlane has the new developments. >> reporter: a political distress flag. tonight, more calls for conservative supreme court justice samuel alito to recuse himself from two pending cases involving january 6th. including on the question of whether donald trump can be prosecuted. >> the supreme court has chosen to conduct itself as if the judiciary is above the law. >> reporter: this amid reports by "the new york times" an "appeal to heaven" flag was flying last summer outside alito's new jersey vacation home. the flag represented the fight for independence during the american revolution, but it took on new meaning in 2021, when it was seen wielded on the front lines by january 6th rioters. the revelation came just days after alito acknowledged an upside down u.s. flag

project lately supreme court.thing that is unwieldy monster we've never seen in the society which is target first, evidence later. they have to decide are we going to put our necks out of it criticize? ana justice roberts is sensitive to this to stepping in and stopping the abuse of the system that seems to be federal and state popping up everywhere at the expense of donald trump. mark: he race a great point about justice roberts. you think justice roberts understands that they don't put an end of this will be dealing with this for the rest of time? you have literally thousands of local and state prosecutors you have 93 states attorney javid attorney general unconstitutional point special counsel. the more these prosecutors get involved in electoral politics or violate jurisdictional issues, or use unethical tactics and their judges do it, the more the supreme court is going to be faced with this and the more the american people are going to have nothing but contempt for the justice system. >> justice roberts has

smith asked the justices to weigh in on trump's immunity claim saying basically look, i know the supreme court will want to weigh in on this and the american voting public has a right to know the outcome of trump's case before the 2024 election, and the court rejected that request and they waited. they are slow walking their decision now. here we are now nearly half a year later, it's harder and harder to think someone like alito whose household flew flags supporting the insurrection over not one but two of his houses is in any way qualified to be a persona makes judgments on these cases. the court did not announce a ruling today in the immunity case. who knows when or if they ever will. these six-three majority that destroyed abortion rights and the majority that bose multiple members who flagrantly violated ethics, covering everything from undeclared gives to conflicts of interest to open politicking all of which apply to the federal judges below the supreme court, that majority threw open the floodgates for gerrymandering schemes. the court conservatives sided with the redistricting plan fo

the supreme court has also held accountable several government ministries, asking them to respond to ey have taken on any complaints they received about misleading and deceptive ads. before this hearing, the supreme court also cautioned fmcg companies against the advertisements that they put out where they claimed their products can cure certain illnesses. now, the issue of misleading and deceptive ads has been dominating indian headlines for a while now, ever since the indian supreme court pulled up a very popular yoga group, baba ramdev, with millions of followers and a massive business empire, asking him to apologise for misleading ads. in fact, the yoga guru had to put out ads in the newspaper saying he was sorry for misleading advertisements, saying that his products could cure various ailments, especially during the covid pandemic. now, all these observations by the supreme court are being seen in entirety and as a caution and a warning to the entire advertising industry in the country. to finland, where one city is on an ambitious path to become carbon neutral. lahti was once a

supreme court. >> bret: charlie? >> much of that is intentional. . and this is a way of undermining it. and i agree. it's devastating for the court. >> bret: thanks for squeezing it in with an extended burgum interview. i appreciate it. tomorrow on "special report," analysis and the latest developments from former president trump's criminal trial. we have a cast of thousands there. i don't know if you have seen them all day. remember, if you can't catch us live, set your dvr 6:00 p.m. in the east. 3:00 p.m. on the west coast. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight and every night. that is it for this "special report," fair, balanced and still unafraid. "the ingraham angle" is coming up after this really pretty shot. ♪ >> laura: good evening, everyone. i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from texas tonight. thank you for

. >> that means he will have appointed five supreme court justices, all of whom will be around the age of 60 when he leaves office. that is a maga court majority that will rule for decades. >> in the words of biden himself, judges matter. more than ever, so does the president who picks them. joining me now, democratic congresswoman jasmine crockett of texas. she is a member of the house oversight committee. welcome back to the saturday show. you signed the letter calling for justice alito to recuse himself after news broke of the first leg. the reaction now that there has been a second flag? >> listen, were not to play with this. we know who alito is. he's not going to hide who he is. i know he tried to hide behind his wife during the first incident but he has nothing to say about the second incident. you know, i have my little drama that happened in oversight. unfortunately, what was not covered is that the court reform task force was rolled out the exact same we can in that task force we have three major things we are looking at. number one, term limits, no more than 18 years

so, the supreme court bar has to get into this. i will also make a point that the person who broke this story is a fabulous investigative reporter. she is not the "court reporter." the problem is the court reporters to investigate and treat the court like a regular beat. they don't do investigative work, they don't press for answers, they do not treat them critically. they are so in all of their subject matter that they act like the press office of the court. judy cantor, the press coverage of the court has to change. and, i think the bar that goes to the court has to begin to put pressure on them as well. there is a publicity and a silence of normality that has to end. it is a rogue institution that has gone off the rails. >> a rogue institution. i just have to ask you this. samuel alito, as you said, from reading his decisions, you can, and his opinions, you can glean who he is and what his politics are. and, i can understand in a statement he made to the new york times in which he shifts his blame on his wife, fox news followed u

today and this conviction lessens the pressure on the supreme court in those cases because there is apressed timeline. everyone wanted the court to hurry up and decide, hurry up and decide, get this decision out so trump can be prosecuted before the election. jack smith can prosecute trump any time come in december, when he's in jail, if he were to go to jail, for example, so now that the opponents to president trump and democrats have gotten a conviction that they wanted, this will alleviate, i think, some of the pressure on the supreme court too, you know, turn this quickly, but i think that decision will still come by the end of june. whether we have a trial in that case before november, i think that was probably unlikely in any event, but it is less significant with this conviction now. >> norah: supreme court in june. the sentencing, july 11th. the republican convention july 15th. the democrats convention in august. it will be quite a summer. >> major: oh, by the way, norah, the president's son on trial starting monday. the president's son on trial starting monday, a former presi