susan: i was wrong. the truth is that when he was running for office, and then especially when he was running for the presidency, millions of people heard his messaging. how many people do you think heard his admission of being wrong, his path to reconciliation, was that covered as much as the campaign was earlier? ms. kennedy: probably not. but we hoped that the people who heard him went on and told other people, as he was certainly genuine. he was telling the truth, from his heart. susan: so, if you look at the full arc of george wallace's life, from his early days, to really finding the path to power, to racial prejudice, and then coming full circle to a point of seeking reconciliation, what do you think george wallace's legacy ought to be in our society? ms. kennedy: well, he'll always be the segregation governor that stood in the schoolhouse door. that will always be. but i would hope his legacy would be coming full-circle. that he had the capacity to change and say that he was wrong. because he was

susan: where does the name come from?rofessor green: i believe it comes from the federalist papers. i believe it was alexander hamilton. i'm pretty sure that is it. [laughter] susan: "mischief of faction" is the title, and we will send people in that direction. they can find more about its origin. there have been 54 people who have served as speaker of the house over time. how many of them are history percentage-wise? professor green: percentagewise? i would say depending on how you count it, maybe 10% to 15%. susan: what makes for a successful or powerful speaker? professor green: from my perspective, i think several things make for a powerful or important speaker. one is, it could be any combination of these things. one is exercising significant influence on major legislation helping get major bills passed , in your chamber. another is bringing about significant institutional change in the house of representatives, changing the way the house works or the structure. another is finding new ways to use the powers you alrea

susan: his father in law.teve: his father in law never lived to see the civil war but never supported his presidential campaign, never seemed to think john had the judgment to be president. it is one of the ironies of history that according even to his contemporaries and supporters, john c fremont did the nation a great service by running for president, establishing the republican party, trying out the electoral strategy abraham like and would succeed with, but also by losing at never being president. susan: in your epilogue, you ask, did fremont build a more just nation? steve: i think through their efforts, in some ways in spite of their efforts to the contrary, they did. they were part of a messy, complicated process that ultimately ended with a great leap in human progress, the end of slavery in the united states. it is profoundly ugly how it happened. a lot of people who were positive actors in that story were racist by any measure we would look at today and even by some measures you would look at then. t

susan: we have a u.s.rmy officer going against orders doing land speculation which will ultimately enrich himself. was this not viewed as corrupt? steve: it was viewed differently, partly because it was out of view and partly because the notions of ethics then or not what they would be later. andrew jackson, as a military officer, dealt in real estate in a grand way in the american south. some people would accuse him of corruption, but he could kind of laugh it off and see it otherwise. some people accuse john c. fremont of corruption. of supporting his own interests as a politician, which he undeniably did. some people questioned his right to land he obtained from mexicans during the actual war against mexico by getting land grants of dubious legality and fighting to have them upheld in american court. his activities were questioned, but never prosecuted, never fully seen as absolutely wrong. there were things you could do more or less in the open and people would criticize them, but it did not seem to ma

susan: as a kentuckian, that is so interesting.ou told us the average tariffs in the early days were about 5%, maybe 10%. how high have the tariffs gotten by this time in general? funding the whole government, right? peter: one of the major sources of income is tariffs. it changes at any given time. and it is really interesting to see how the -- as tariffs goes up, the revenue go up and then the budget sometimes swells to appoint that it is problematic figure out how to reduce some and they have to tariffs to bring it down. it would be an argument that art laffer would enjoy because the notion of having too much money for government makes it do things that you don't want. the period that starts to make tariffs take off is the war of 1812. the u.s. is pulled into a war -- wars are going on, the u.s. tries to stay neutral, but even with its declared neutrality, american ships are being pulled in by the english and sailors are being taken into duty. in jefferson really wants to stop this, creates an embargo that is a total failure. an

susan: dr.hristian mcmillan, thank you so much for adding a historical perspective to our current pandemic situation. take you for your time. christian: you are very welcome. ♪ >> all "q&a" programs are available on our website or as a podcast at c-span.org. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2020] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> senator rand paul announced he has tested as a two for the coronavirus, although he showed no symptoms. as a result, senator enzi and senator romney of utah, who spent time with him recently announced they would be self quarantining. colorado senator cory gardner has been self-quarantine for five days, after meeting with a constituent who tested positive. senator rick scott put himself in isolation last week after meeting with brazil's president and a room of multiple people who later tested positive. they will not be able to vote on any legislatio

susan: a question.o the public health organizations turn to people like yourself have historical context in helping to develop future responses? christian: you know, once in a while. andve a good friend colleague at johns hopkins who has written extensively on malaria and global health since world war ii. i know that he has been consulted. historians like howard markel at the university of michigan has written extensively in the american journal of public health, the american medical association, on a variety of things. recentlys to mind most is really a classic article on the nonpharmaceutical responses and interventions into the 1918 flu pandemic that he wrote with medical doctors. it's an extraordinary article. so, historians do get involved in trying to think through how history can help contemporary public health responses. but you know, as i write in my and, the pandemics book, more extensively in my tuberculosis book, there does not seem to be a tremendous appetite for learning from the past. sus

susan: dr.hristian mcmillan, thank you so much for adding a historical perspective to our current pandemic situation. take you for your time. christian: you are very welcome. ♪ >> all "q&a" programs are available on our website or as a podcast at c-span.org. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp.] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> coming up in an hour, senate reporter for the national on the zach cohen congressional efforts to address the pandemic. the former deputy assistant secretary for health will discuss the u.s. response to the spread of the coronavirus. you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. azor 47, the nazar 47 --es of 47. the motion is not agreed to bring -- agreed to. senate failed to move forward on nearly a nearly two $2ldren -- on a nearly trillion response to the outbreak. impartial --ling calling parts of a slush fund. ,ithout democratic supports r

let me bring in ash and susan. first to you, susan.detect more positive attitude among the investors? maybe they like the president extending restrictions on social distancing? susan: i think it is good we have a date, a april 30th instead of hope of aspirational deadline of easter. that is positive for investors. we came out of the shortest bear market in history. three days in order to get off 20% of the lows. doesn't mean we will not retest the decline of market. the redown and recovery, that has been pretty positive for market watchers. stuart: hey, ashley, while we have a couple seconds here. let me ask you this, why are you wearing a purple glove on your right hand and a black glove hand and you're in your own house? ashley: because i forgot to put my black glove on my right hand. i've gone completely all purple. i'm actually in a garage, i'm actually in a garage in connecticut, there wasn't anything, really that i could do inside. so i thought why not just give a nice vista behind a beautiful lake. it is freezing cold. i have a

susan: who was jesse fremont?ve: she was the daughter of a powerful united states senator from missouri. senator thomas hart benton. benton was a founder of the democratic party, a lawyer, also a ruthless and brutal man who owned slaves throughout his life and also fought duels and on one occasion killed a man. they dueled once. they wounded each other after trading insults. man waston felt the still insulting him, so challenged him again at 10 paces and shot and killed him. a brutal man, and get also a kind of visionary who foresaw an american west that included the pacific coast, who want to the pacific coast for a specific reason. he wanted there to be an american seaport pointing toward india and pointing toward china and creating a direct trade route from the united states to asia. he in effect foresaw the global economy we live in now, where the world's most important trading relationship in recent times has been across the pacific. benton at least dimly foresaw that and fought for the expansion of the ameri

susan: what were the political effects?oodrow wilson was president when it arrived but we had a succession of republican presidents. was their correlation between the recession and the flu, and what people were choosing at the polls? amity: there was a great hygiene movement. right? you want to imagine the first handwashing movement. some of that is in the library of congress. wash your hands. it was very powerful. there were no antibiotics. there were a lot of clocks -- >> coming out. you want to look for the two, now, those are ideas that might seem off. i honestly don't think it was a republican or democrat problem at the time because nobody really up the time believed the government could do much about an epidemic. the federal government. they looked at the states and towns, they looked to themselves and understood that sometimes, disease came that cannot be stopped. because we have so much more in pharmacopia, in our medical arsenal, we look more to governments because they can deliver. a company can make the vaccine.

susan: okay. stuart: our producer tells us he had delivery last night, absolutely no face-to-face contact, no touching of any kind. it was all worked out in advance. ashley: leave it at the door or hang it on the doorknob. stuart: what i'm hearing, more events at the white house. ashley: white house easter egg roll, not surprised. it was set for april 13th. this is tradition goes back to 140 years but the first lady, melania trump saying health and safety of all americans must be first priority, especially right now. no esther egg roll. stuart: by the way, president has or about to take part in a g7 virtual -- ashley: teleconference. stuart: it will be a teleconference as opposed to face-to-face meetings flying all over the world. they're all together on the teleconference. ashley: that was supposed to be in pittsburgh this year. stuart: that is canceled. we have not get headlines from that conference call, teleconference at this point. we're expecting something later. let's see if president trump

susan: right. stuart: they are starting to ease up on restrictions and will ease up on restrictions in wuhan in april. i've got to say that's positive news. i have to believe that. susan: it took several days of having no new cases of coronavirus. most of the cases are being reported, new cases, are travelers coming from outside of china back into the chinese borders so now beijing, shanghai are requiring returnees to actually self-quarantine for 14 days. but you have to take these draconian steps as you know. you lock down a province which is home to how many hundreds of millions of people in order to contain the virus. that, i don't know if the u.s. is ready to do that just yet but that is the remedy. stuart: okay. got it. lauren, how about price gouging? two items here. what's the department of justice doing and what's amazon doing? lauren: attorney general bill barr is saying if you are hoarding items that are scarce and that are needed right now in the coronavirus pandemic, or price gouging on

susan atkins says, "bitch, i have no sympathy for you" and she's slaughtered. >> then susan atkins wrote blood on the front door to make sure cops would connect these murders to gary hinman's murder. >> they arrive back at the ranch. charlie mans ons waiting for them. what did you do? tell me about it. and they tell him. and he's furious. from their description, he doesn't think they've left the house appalling enough that it will get the attention they want. >> so, said gwynn, manson himself returned to the house and draped an american flag near sharon tate's body. >> manson with his sense of theater thought that would be the thing that would really, really make everybody gasp and pay attention. >> a movie actress and four of her friends were murdered and the circumstance were lurid. >> the family was mutilated. >> this i'd rather not discuss. >> but nobody made a link to gary hinman. beausoleil remained in jail. >> charlie was furious. they had screwed up. >> he blamed them? >> very much so. if they had done it right. >> they had to do it again. >> this time i'm going with you to make

sorry, susan. susan: that is okay. stuart: if you take a foreign trip you would have a fabulous exchange rate but you can't take a foreign trip. ashley: much like you can't enjoy cheap gas. stuart: exactly. look who is with us. lenny curry, mayor of jacksonville, florida, your honor, thank you, you're the largest city in florida, largest population i think. you have very broad boundaries there. are you close to even considering a lockdown, a kind of a shelter in place for the people of jacksonville? >> well, couple of days ago i put out an executive order that limits all social gatherings to 50 people or less. that is restaurants, any other social spaces, people seem to be complying with that, taking it seriously. we are -- stuart: shelter in place, in other words stay home, you're not close to that yet? >> well, that could come. here is what we're doing. i'm working closely with the hospital systems to ramp up testing. have been in touch with president trump and his team. they're sending a mobile unit in which will al

stuart: thank you, susan. dr. kate tolenko joins us now, frequent guest on the program, adding valuable information. should america be open for business, opening up a little bit for business, by easter? what's your opinion? >> from a public health perspective, it would be better to extend lockdowns but as states want to reopen their economies, as liz mentioned, it should be gradual. i think we can learn from the countries that have been successful in dampening down their epidemic, china, japan, south korea and singapore. it was a near universal public wearing of masks and the rapid testing of people. if we are to gradually reopen our economies we need to make sure people have access to masks to wear in public and people have access to testing. that being said, there still needs to be social distancing with enforcement so no handshaking, people staying six feet apart. i think we would like to see churches open but that probably won't be able to happen by easter. i think that for the next two months, the unit of wor

susan armistead.probably. but, susan armistead would not budge. years go by. we are not sure of the timing, or how it was coordinated, but in 1839, as an bells freedom suit against gerard tea green field has sort of stalled in court, gerard tea green field decides to sell james ash. sudden sale, if he can execute the sale maybe he can get around the provisions and that 1824 will. so in 1839 in december, just like daniel bell, james ashes sees, taken to the yellow house and he is potentially going to be sold south. this is the lawsuit that ash brings against william h. williams. he is at the yellow house and he is being held there, and james ash files his freedom suit against william h. william. this is the case that will go to the supreme court's quartz and tani is the precursor for the decision of dred scott. what this ash argue and what does williams argue? what does tani decide? ask argue that the will, the terms of the will have to be followed. there is an old principle and law that the intent of

armstead, there she is, susan armstead. we see george bell, daniel bell, mary bell with two children, caroline with two children, mary ellen, marharriet and they're a associated with daniel bell and the navy yard. the slaveholders who -- the people who attempted to escape, right, the slaveholders of those people really effectively wanted to send a message to the enslaved across washington, d.c. and maryland to teach the enslaved a lesson not to run away, not to escape. so they would be sold. they were sold south really as a deterrent. mary and most of the children were taken to baltimore for sale to be sold. this is the scene you just saw in the short film. they were taken from the b & o railroad station to baltimore. so daniel is desperate trying to intervene and possibly stop the sale of mary and the children south. at that moment, you know, daniel on the depot platform is sort of bludgeoned by the train conductors. the train pulls away. some abolitionists saw this and helped daniel intervene. so what happens to mary bell

susan: goodness, isn't that a story. karl: stockbroker doing this active duty and on the flight lights, the lunch line on 911, and this was his job. susan: [applause]. these are such very moving stories. since we were here at rancho mirage writers festival. i cannot help myself pretty you have both been at the epicenter events during the two thousands during the dynamic. in response to find 11 red and of course iraq in 2003 . you both also have written history. so i'm wondering how your personal experiences or during this time informs the way you look at historic figures. doesn't or does it not at all pretty. lynne: my own personal experience was i was writing a book on education and i was about halfway through when george bush asked to be vice president. and the president to be, his main cause was education. i cannot finish the book. i could not get out with the seven opinions that i could not finish the book so i started writing children's books. i thought this was the least harmful thing i can do. [laughter]. is going

susan, you have news for us. susan, own amazon? susan: 10 warehouses across the u.s.among the workers in coronavirus. one being shut in queens, first known case of a warehouse worker in amazon, one of their fulfillment centers to test positive. that facility has been shot. kentucky closed one of their warehouses as well as a result of one of their employees testing positive s we know that amazon says that those that do test positive you can apply for two weeks pay from the 25 million-dollar package or this availability of funds that amazon has set aside. they're also spending $300 million to hire more workers. 100,000 they're looking for, willing to pay extra two dollars an hour on top of $15. paying extra bonuses on those that work above 40 hours a week that get the delivery packages out. there has been a surge in online demand with people having to stay at home. stuart: if there are fewer people driving, there are fewer people driving at this moment but i should tell you the dow industrials, bottom right-hand corner of the screen now up 700 points. amazon is above $

what's the news on boeing, susan? susan: microsoft raised cash, right? you can still get into microsoft 144 now. boeing, got cowan slapping lowest price target on the streets on boeing, still at $150 a share. $50 from the current levels. stuart: wait, wait. we have some analyst saying it will go to 150? susan: that's right. that is the lowest on the street. analysts didn't forecast, foresee, a, you would have this oil crisis merged in with this ex exogenous outbreak of coronavirus. no one predicted boeing would get to $100 a share. they do expect, this is the trend for most companies in this environment, at least for the fir six months of this year, they will cut and quit their dividends going forward. stuart: sounds to me like analysts got it wrong. they thought the low was 150. it's not. it's 99. now they're coming out saying -- that is not a target. they just missed it, didn't they? susan: yes, but probably still keeping at 150. they probably expect it to lift at some point with government help. not $60 billion which is what boeing is asking for. as y

susan, you have a zoom nugget. susan: well, what about hacking on zoom?as warned the public for the potential of what they are calling zoom bombing. this is after two schools saw their online classes getting hijacked on the popular video conference app, zoom. they see obviously a massive increase in usage because of the covid-19 pandemic, people are quarantined, have to work at home so there's been a huge surge in zoom. the stock has doubled since the start of this year but the fbi warns that hackers can also get in as well, after this case where two schools were affected. stuart: zoom bombing. i have to remember that one. dow jones industrial average, we are seven minutes in, seven and a half minutes into the session and we are down just 134 points. you say just 134 points. these days, that's a mere .6%. down 140. nasdaq down 29. s&p down 17. those are not significant losses compared to what we have been seeing recently. now, i need some more boards to be shown, please. i would like to see big tech. i would love to see apple, microsoft. there you go. app

susan: that's right. tim cook says apple in discussion with the administration, as you heard president trump in that press briefing on saturday, saying we will donate two million masks. they are very good at sourcing, obviously, around the world since they have such a complex, large and global footprint when it comes to their supply chains. they said we found two million masks, we will donate it for the good of this country. stuart: i think it's worth pointing out, thanks, susan, it's worth pointing out that although we've got a bounce here for apple, the stock is still only at $234 per share. not that long ago, it was about $100 north of there. that was four weeks ago, something like that. all right. lauren simonetti, come in, please. more states have issued a stay-at-home order? lauren: at least eight states saying self-isolate, stay at home. the latest is ohio and louisiana. louisiana goes into effect today. they have 837 cases of coronavirus there, 20 deaths. ohio, that goes into effect tomorrow, 351

susan: yeah. is that actually positive for the stock when you have an activist investor building up a $1 billion stake and they want to oust jack dorsey as the head and twitter ceo. right now, from what i see, elliott has nominated four directors for twitter's board, if they actually get all four on board they could, they could possibly oust jack dorsey. stuart: doesn't he want to go and live in africa for six months? susan: he has mentioned that. jack dorsey also, by the way, operates square which is a payment system. but if you look at twitter's user numbers daily, 150 million. compare that over t-- compare that to facebook. stuart: edward lawrence joins us from capitol hill. what have you got an update on? reporter: a lot going on on capitol hill. my sources tell me that senator chuck grassley and the senate finance committee are looking to possibly tax relief if the coronavirus starts to adversely affect the u.s. economy. at this point they are just talking about it and what they could do in t

susan? susan: looking at bear market, we're 200 points from a bear market from the dow, 20% from the recent highs. if we get closest to 20% down, that is fastest decline after bull run from the 1929 depression which took 42 days. we're running 20 days to lose 42%. that would be the fastest on record if it happens. stuart: indicator i look at price of apple stock. earlier this morning, we got 55%? susan: 50% of down smartphone sales in february. stuart: 50% down. that is extraordinary. at that point apple was down 26, $27. susan: 9%. stuart: 9%, thank you. i believe it has come back. get me apple back on the screen. i believe apple has come back significantly. ashley: apple is down 5%, 16 bucks. stuart: almost cut the loss in half in a matter of minutes. susan: this is different from 2018 we need to point out as well. liquidity is still flowing. companies are making money. first quarter companies made 4% in profits instead of losing .3%. companies are tell turning out profit on the balance sh

susan? susan: representatives from google, microsoft, apple, twitter, expected at the white house today, joined by officials from government agencies and that includes health and human services department, nih, u.s. labor department and it's interesting that most of these tech companies are the ones that are advising their select employees to stay home and work from home instead. they are working to discuss coordination efforts and information sharing between their industry and the u.s. government involving containing the coronavirus. being tech executives aren't the only ones at the white house today. very busy meeting schedule including the 3:00 p.m. meeting with bankers and the heads of wall street banks with president trump and that's to talk about hopefully not facing a credit crunch once again, to i guess maintain orderly conduct with these type of wild swings in the stock market. stuart: the credit crunch is an underlying story on the market. we think of the virus and think of politic

you heard from susan not so many years ago, susan and i were right there beside you working our tails off trying to get good candidateselected . my wife, we were running our best in city council. she was a great city council person but we did what you all do, we donated to causes that we believed in and most of our time we raised our family we taught sunday schooltogether, that was great practice for my new job . we were active in our church. if you know typical deplorable stuff . as i was thinking about this group and what i would say today i thought when i was where you are, what would i like to have heard from equatorial states back then? what would i like to have known ? how the state department spend your money? what does the secretary do all day to advance america's interests and values? how did that guy get thejob ? i can't answer the last question but i'm going to tackle the first 2 with you all today and talk about honda president trump's leadership he's waiting for america onceagain . [applause] it's 74,000 people who have embassies in 192 countries from afghanistan to zimba

susan: as you know, mr.but what are you hoping his future will be? aller: you know, i'm hoping that he'll be able to position to continue able raising awareness about his not his and -- or necessarily, but the policies that he is passionate about, the universal basic income and voting and election reform and a that he e other issues cares about. susan: thank you for your call, amhurst, massachusetts. steve has more. steve: what a difference from caucuses, days still sorting out the results from iowa, getting a lot of quick tonight, though, including in maine, in numbers, vice orting, the former president joe biden holding on to a narrow lead with just over followed by te senator bernie sanders, he is 34%.ring around michael bloomberg at 14% and elizabeth warren from the neighboring state at 11.2%. in tennessee as you mentioned, some of the voting continued hit se the tornadoes that overnight. former vice president joe biden with 13% of the vote from a nessee, is holding on to lead. he has about 40,000 votes,

susan? susan: yes. stuart: what is this, fake meat cutting prices.s coming online. nothing to do with the virus this is on competition, back to real business. impossible reducing prices by 15%. they're charging 7.90 to 8.50 a pound for plant-based meat alternatives this is growing market with beyond meat stock price rocketing a few hundred percent last year from its ipo. projected to grow to 25 billion five-year's time. we're sitting five billion. that is five times increase in five years. stuart: that is the projection. i don't believe it. susan: you don't believe it? foot traffic increased when you introduce plant-based alternatives. starbucks, mcdonald's, yum, white castle all doing the same. increase of burger king i think 17%. stuart: put me down as beyond meat skeptic. not quite the same as climate change skeptic. beyond meat exactly $100 per share. overall the rally holds. we're at 5760 points on the upside. -- 560 points on the upside. nice gain for s&p and nice gain for the nasdaq. show me health stocks. i morning. why? because bernie sander

susan: another one.int cut and market thinks you get another quarter-point cut in april, next month. ashley: forecast was 1.25% by end of the year. any way they do it. stuart: no matter how you slice it mike weir downward spiral for low interest rates that could be a problem. why is it happening? >> it its happening the president will tell you it its happening because it is a global economy. harder for the united states to compete on a global economy if interest rates are much lower in other parts of the world. instead of raising rates when the fed was doing it, he was so adamant we need not to keep raising rates. do the opposite to cut rates. appears what we're getting from the u.s. economy appears the president was correct. stuart: we're up2. literally seconds makes a huge difference on this market. what have you got? susan: it has been suggested during the downturn because of the coronavirus maybe president trump and white house should suspend the trade war. we heard from steve mnuchin, treasury secre

susan, come in, please. susan li. how are gyms handling the virus? susan: closing down. they are shutting down. we heard from the governors of new jersey, new york and connecticut saying they had to shut down by monday evening. according to some of these web sites, they won't reopen until march 31st at the earliest, from what i see. but mayor de blasio sneaking in a last minute gym session before, of course, those closures taking place. getting a lot of heat saying do you really need to hit the gym when people are supposed to be social distancing and aren't you supposed to set an example for the people of new york? ashley: yes. stuart: well said. that's taken off on social media, i think. heavy criticism right there. can i just pick out one item here of virus news which i think has the biggest impact. that is mcdonald's. all mcdonald's closing their dining rooms. that came as quite a shock to me this morning because that's a source of cheap, plentiful eat-in, get out food but you can't eat in. that's going to be very apparent all across the country. do we have dr. siegel

susan: 900, right?l prices come down to you need an electric car if you're getting two bucks a gallon, do you need to go electric? stuart: no. unless the government forces you to. heaven for bid if it happens in america. oil crashed down to 29 bucks a barrel. now we're up to 33.90. i want to bring in daniel yergin. he has a big name in the oil business. welcome him on the show. daniel, great to see you again. >> stuart, good to be with you. stuart: the saudis, maybe the russians, appear to be trying to break our frackers over here and i understand president trump held a phone call with mbs in saudi arabia. i don't know what they said but i'm guessing he said, you're our ally. knock it off. what do you think? >> i think, stuart, i think that's probably maybe not exactly in those words but probably is the message. by the way texas has a lot of electoral votes and the midwest industrial states are now very tied in to the fracking, shale revolution in terms of what they produce in terms of equipment and so

now we have with us susan, come in, please. susan, you have news on what? susan: airlines. run this video of all these parked airplanes in virtually every airport across this country, why, because no one's flying. capacity in traffic has been cut. traffic has been cut by 70% to 80% in some instances. there you go. isn't that dramatic right there? most of these big airlines across the u.s. have cut capacity by at least 70%. that's the case when it comes to american airlines, delta has cut by 70%, right now united is holding at 50% and this goes to show that you will expect a lot of layoffs, especially those being impacted by this and that's why they need $26 billion right now by the government. wow. this is dramatic. don't you think? stuart: susan, thank you very much indeed. that was remarkable video of the -- like an airline boneyard. that's an aircraft parking lot the size of which we have never seen before. marc tepper is with us, stock market guy. welcome to the program. i'm aware you say the reaction to those jobless numbers, okay, i see you, the jobless numbers, 3.2 m

san jose mayor boccardo remembered her life saying susan was an extraordinary role model for me, and entire generations of aspiring leaders susan made san jose a place where compassionate action for testing celebration and for youthful aspiration. i know i am not alone in saying that i will miss her tremendously. susan hammer was diagnosed with alzheimer's several years ago in the family said she died saturday at her home in willow glen and mayor susan hammer of san jose was 81 years old.>> a lot of people remember memories 4:18 and now let's go back out to tran12 >> starting with the south bay we don't have problems to tell you about, early for the south bay commute and today is no exception at this early for your malware, you see no problems to tell you about in the silicon valley. north of their, i didn't want to go that far north, i wanted to pull it down a little bit because there is a stall semitruck in san mateo southbound 101 at third blocking the far right lane and they're working on getting a tow truck to the scene. there we go to the san mateo bridge in traffic moving at t

joining me now, david brock, democratic strategist and susan del percio, a republican strategist and msnbc political analyst. david, let me start with you, does bernie sanders have to win michigan to bring back some kind of moment and some kind of feeling that he is still in this race with a serious chance of turning around the lead of vice president -- former vice president biden, even with still not knowing the final count in california? >> right, yes, i think he does. particularly because senator sanders won last time and i think he needs to win it by a convincing margin. if you look at the other states in play on the 10th, it's going to be very hard if sanders doesn't have a substantial up in michigan to lead biden. you think about the 13th be is so gaunting for sanders because that may be the day we know essentially who the nominee is. and i think basically what's happened here is the democratic electorate ended up being more pragmatic than risk-adverse than many people had thought. people -- i think sanders people looked a little too soon, particularly in nevada, and there was

susan, first to you. the rally was impressive yesterday, and what made it, i think, even moresoh was when the president began talking with the task force there, really jumped up i thought that was pretty good news. >> susan: i did too, all the private partnerships involving target and walmart and the fact that you had that 1,000 point rally in the final hour of trade on a friday heading into a weekend especially with all of the ups and downs that we've seen in what would you call it very volatile week, of the stock market? david: i would call it the most volatile work on the stock market i've seen since 1987. >> susan: since 2008, but there's a lot of positives and i realization by investors that things may have been oversold, given the fact that you had a strong economy headed into this and a lot of the recoveries are very sharp. david: gary b., talk about things getting overdone and you often worry and i think correctly so about congress and politicians over doing responses to crisis like we're in with

the passage of the 19th amendment, susan b anthony amendment and 72 year fight. the way elaine lays out what happened in nashville and she does it so beautifully and having been in the state senate and the capital and knowing that hotel that is across from the capital and i could just see and envision this. to me, it was a great book to read and i've read it twice because it's so easy to put yourself in that moment. >> is it still a hotel? >> oh yeah, it's gorgeous. >> when you walk into the lobby, you see the suffragists there? >> yes. absolutely. it is terrific. >> we talked to you before about books and often history comes up. history books. on your list -- >> one thing i'm doing this year is, as many people read the bible through, i have the king james version and the niv, a friend recommended using a contemporary version and reading it there. it reads like a novel. which is just fascinating. it reads more like a novel when you read a contemporary version. so i'm doing that, i will finish it at the end of the year. it's something i do on a daily basis. i've e

howard: susan, any president, obviously, has to strike a balance when there's a threat and not scaringple. trump says that nancy pelosi's trying to start a panic, there's been a lot of aha, he's politicizing this. in truth, aren't both sides doing that? >> it's hard to say who started the politicization of this. i know pelosi and the democrats on capitol hill immediately took to criticizing the president and not being competent, as not approaching this in an even-handed way that's going to keep the public safe. i feel like it began on capitol hill, and the president -- as he often does -- punches back twice as hard, and now you have the back and forth -- >> can we go to the way back machine of wednesday when the president in a press conference said that the reason the market had fallen 2,000 points at that point was because of a bad debate the night -- democratic debate the night before. howard: concern that a democrat, meaning bernie, would win the white house. >> that's why it fell 2,000 points. i'm not sure it calmed the markets, and it didn't address what the press conference was a

susan li joins us with more on all that. susan? susan: first known case in fulfillment center for amazon. five employees over on the european sign tested positive for covid-19 as well. as you mentioned this amazon warehouse worker is from the queens district, delivery station out there in new york. apparently amazon telling us they are receiving medical attention. if you bring up the statement, say we are supporting this individual who is now in quarantine in addition to enhanced daily deep cleaning. we closed the queens delivery station for additional sanitation and sent associates home with full pay. this is the first warehouse worker confirmed but in the seattle headquarters amazon confirmed that one of it employees tested positive for coronavirus. they are advising the employees to stay home through end of march. this only applies to the corporate offices. as you mentioned looks like business is booming at amazon with people being quarantined, saying home, they are ordering online instead. amazon is hiring 100,000 extra warehou

susan: no clue. no clue. , theally, if you go back but tot had existed, years before i joined the commission was when the world wide web was created. it was really an inter-university governmental dark system that had just been commercialized. been't think anybody had ahead of their division but the good news is we at the commission did look at the development of modem activity, the ability up and down in connection with the internet and we said, this is a young service. we don't know where it is going to go. we are going to let it develop and see where it is headed. we took the position you can do more harm than good if you are trying to think about where a brand-new service is going to go. we thought the marketplace would be the best determinant of that outcome. indeed. >> do you still hold that opinion today, where we are in telecommunications? >> with respect to the internet, do i believe government should regulate portions of it? we are at a point today, not the fcc, more the federal trade commi

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susan: yes. melissa: connell. connell: get out of new york, go to texas, talk about the plunge we saw in the oil price and pressure it puts on oil companies in places like west texas. our next guest joins us from there by phone. tommy keller is the head of oil and ranch development, the director there. i was lucky enough to spend the day with tommy back in of 2018 we were talking about the boom in your business, the midland, texas, area, now we're afraid to be talking about the possible bust. 31-dollar oil, tommy, i want to accomplish as much as i can in the few minutes we have together. where is the price, people in your business, the shale business, need order to be in order to be profitable in 2020? where is that price? >> hey, connell, good talking to you. i think certainly over $40 a barrel is what probably on average. it depends on what particular shale play you're in. some of them are more productive than others but i would say 40 is probably the number we talk about a lot. as bottom. connell: that number u

susan, thank you.xt hour, in for charles payne. >> we're going to see how markets actually now react to the next two hours now that they have got that certainty on the table. neil, thank you so much. a lot happening in the last two hours and we have two more to go before the bell. good afternoon, everybody. i'm in for charles payne. this is making money. breaking right now, we have a rescue package. the markets giving back some of this week's three-day rally. down 647 right now on the dow, but investors now have to wait for president trump to sign the record stimulus package aimed at workers and small businesses. it just passed minutes ago by a

well go back to politicking i'm talking with susan dishes. he was campaign manager for michael dukakis in 1988 presidential run and reed dickens who served as white house system press secretary under george w. bush they joined me in studio give me the layout or with biden versus trump i'll tell you what the fun part is for biden right now for the next. however many we've got left he's going to be up against bernie sanders and the american people are going to think he's a moderate all right because you get sanders over here on the left you get trump over here on the right and by about june they'll say that joe biden. moderate sensible guy in the middle and then trump will come in and try to paint him in a corner he knows how to get on the top skim he does know that and so they all i'll take him behind the woodshed and i can you know beat is behind all the stuff that's very effective he can get trump rattled he can get trump the trump is never on message but he can. try and find information on. made a fool of himself did me and should be you kn