than the -- susan b. anthony went and voted and got arrested, he came a big celebrity. the judge, for reasons that had anye, asked if she final words to say at the end of her trial. [laughter] which has always struck me as such a full listing because of course she gave a speech and published and distributed it around the country. she refused to pay the $100 fine. it became a big deal. because she was no voting, shtick's a seriously. voting is never symbolic. we know this. she decided that the two candidates were awful enough to one was slightly better than the other. she voted for grant and it was hard. i think in 1880 when she decided to vote, it was a symbolic act on her part. there is a funny story where the person who takes your ballot, he wanted to buy her ticket. she kept it and he signed his name. it is very cool. she made it a big deal but it and thename the cause she was on to other causes anyway. >> the ballot box we have, is that from this area? >> yes. thinking that it is a place where will they have granted women the right to vote, we think it was not meant

take this and we'll fight for women next and there were people like elizabeth katie hanson and susan b. anthony who said if we don't get this now and we can't support the 15th amendment if it doesn't include women. so it was a huge split. and they started tearing -- formed competing organizations and tore each other down in the press. but also they continued on two separate avenues for getting passed. with the stanton and anthony fashion pushing the federal amendment and the stone howe blackwell faction pushing a state by state strategy. because the reconstruction amendments had been hailed as former overreach by the former confederacy so this was considered safer. it is not crazy to go state by state. if enough states pass suffrage you have more men supporting it that it becomes inevitable. the amendment has languished just after the civil war. so the 1913 march on the white horse, there was a big old banner that said we demand a constitutional amendmenten franchising the women of this country and that is called the great demand banner and you could see it at belmont paul. in addition to the m

[laughter] >> susan b. anthony raised the argument in 1872 speaking at an illinois suffrages meeting and judges andnd legislators in thek -- >> female judges and legislators? >> they were all men. [laughter] >> all of them. >> shocking, shocking. >> there were men supporting women suffrage. >> no. >> yeah, they were. they were. they filed bills in parliament to give woman the vote and -- >> how -- what was the response to the suffrages argument? >> the legislatures -- the legislators and judges said, i don't think so. he is inclusive is gender neutral, anybody is covered under a crime but it involves a right like voting or becoming an attorney or a doctor, then that right has to be specifically conferred. he is not generic. he is not neutral in the law. in 1841 two american abolitionists got into an argument, public argument in the press over whether he in the constitution, in article 2 which describes the qualifications and duties of presidents, he in article 2 means that a woman can't be president. he means a wom

and you could name susan b. anthony, elizabeth katie stand -- stanton, and i have run names like that by my publisher, and i get a yawn. because compare that to, i don't know, let's say abraham lincoln. there's a huge market for all things lincoln. there's quite a small market for studies of the suffragists. i'm going to tell you a story about a historical colleague of mine who had written, he was trying to come up with a subject for his third book. he got tenure, he was faculty member at one of the colleges in the philadelphia area, and he wanted to write for a broader audience. his field is military history. so he was thinking, he was trying to come up with some general that he could write about. and his area was world war ii, so he presented, oh, joseph stillwell and the editors he's talking with, ah, not that many people know the name of stillwell, and i don't think there's much of a market. and he mentioned a couple of other sort of second-ranked generals. and then sort of at a loss -- and his field was in particul

and you could name susan b. anthony, elizabeth k.d. stanton. i can tell you i have run names like that by my publisher and i get a yawn. because compare that to, i don't know, let's say abraham lincoln. you know, there is a huge market for all things lincoln. there is quite a small market for studies of the suffrageettes. i am going to tell you a story about a historical colleague of mine. he was trying to come up with a subject for his third book. he had written a first book a second book, he had a a tenure in college. his field is military history. he was trying to come up with some general that he could write about. his area was world war ii. he presented oh, joseph stillwell and the editor he is talking about said not that many people know the name. i don't think there is a market. he mentioned a couple of other sort of second-ranked generals. then sort of at a loss, and his field in particular was the pacific field of the war. then he through up his hands and in a throw away line he said i guess i could write another biography of douglas m

it tends to to look like three ladies in a bathtub but this is susan b. anthony and others. women's rights, not only about women but about the amending of the constitution, which was necessary in order to get women the right to vote. and so we're seeing, and i log that, -- this, that the capitol under which our representatives serve daily and where the tourists go and a place where we've been able to update the story being told, as we realize that the white-centric, male-centric story of american history can now be expanded and must be expanded to tell a much broader story. so, in building up the story on capital, theon the question comes to mind is who decides and how? and it comes to mind in part because of the prolive ration of war memorials, in particularly on the west end of the mall. it started with the vietnam svetlana kuznetsova rans memorial. we then got the crane vealt -- veterans memorial, we got the world war ii memorial, which i will point out to you, the major controversy concerning it was its location on the constitutional axis of the mall that had been establ

the original suffragists, and you know their names, katie sims, susan b anthony, they were abolitionists. and some of them backed suffrage because they wanted abolition and they figure they cannot get that done without the votes. after the civil war, the reconstruction amendments were passed, and they enfranchised black men but no women. that caused a major risk in the suffrage party. there were people who said, we are abolitionists, we will take this. it is important black men get the vote and we will fight for women next. and there were people like elizabeth cady and susan b anthony who said, stop telling us to wait our turn. if we don't get this now, it will be another generation, and we cannot support the 15th amendment if it does not include women. it was a huge split. so they formed competing organizations, they tore each other down in the press, and they also continued on two separate avenues for getting suffrage passed. with the anthony faction pushing the federal amendment and the stone block will faction pushing it state-by-state strategy. in part because of the reconstruction