and one is the ways that portraits like susan b. anthony's portrait which we see in this 2017 women's march parade, we see susan b. anthony's portrait. she's the closest head to us with the circle glasses. and we see this march down pennsylvania avenue, and this emphasis on this very celebrated 19th century women's rights leader. and we'll talk today about how she became such a famous suffragist, not only in the 19th century but also today. and i want to also think back to another parade, in 1913, where we have, down the same street, washington, dc, pennsylvania avenue, and one of the reasons i'm pointing to this image and how it connects to our current, you know, political and social movement culture, is because of this image that was very popular in june of 2020, which is related to the black lives matter movement. it's breonna noble riding a horse. this image became a sensation, perhaps you all saw it. there's a real similarity between these two women riding horses in these urban areas as symbols of these political causes that really, real

we can tell immediately it's susan b. anthony. and the artist was so intent on emphasizing kind of particularly taking anthony down that the artist actually replicated the eye issue that she had. if you look closely here, you can see that one of her eyes is slightly out of focus, and this is one of the reasons why she often posed in profile, why weeing often think of her image in profile. the artist perhaps knew this and decided to replicate that for the daily graphic. suffragists still wanted to appear with these kinds of political figures, with these presidential candidates, images that we're so familiar with today. i'm sure you can think of many versions of this immarges of these male -- images of these male political leaders in the many institutions that you've been in. and so they decided to create one of their first major visual representation projects through the history of women's suffrage. first published in 1881, and it eventually became a set of six volumes that were about a thousand pages each that were published from

we have susan b. anthony we are masculine-looking clothing, her skirt too is short, the boots have spurs on them. in the background we have a women's political rally. and this is from 1873, so women were not yet having these kinds of political protests and rolles yesterday. we also have a woman who's a police officer. and two men who are doing domestic tasks, including holding a baby and grocery shopping. so very similar images that we've been looking at but updated so we immediately can tell it's susan b. anthony. the artist emphasizing taking anthony down, that the artist actually replicated the eye issue that she had. if you look closely here, you can see that one of her eyes is slightly out of focus. this is one of the reasons that she often posed in profile, and the artist knew this and decided to replicate that. suffragists wanted to appear as sort of like political candidates. images of male political leaders of many institutions. so they decide to create one of their first major visual representation

host: we have calls waiting from the president of the susan b. anthony list.et's go to san jose, california, first up on republican line. guest: my perception is you believe that this should be a state's right issue. i believe that as well. this should never have been decided by the supreme court as a one-size-fits-all. you have areas of the country that are in the bible belt areas that do not believe in abortion. in those states i believe that if you want to have abortions, unlimited abortions, it should be decided by the people in the state. you bring up some very good points that most of the rest of the world there are limits. i will close with saying that the constitution provides for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. the progressives do not believe in life. guest: i think you raise a good point about what different states will do. in your state it is possible your state will dig in and basically guarantee the democratic process that abortions will be allowed for quite some time. same for new york, vermont, other states like that. there will be

a look what it might do for the state depending on the decision of the court saying that the susan b. anthony list prominent of anti-abortion group draft add three-tear list of state prospects for pro-life last post row. messaging campaigns in states where they feel they need to play defense as well as where they need to plan to push for new restrictions. 21 states could swiftly impose bans on abortion. on the opposite end, democrats in colorado are planning toint dues legislation that would codify abortion rights in michigan where they do not control the state legislature. they are pushing a bill that would repeal a 90-year-old abortion ban that could take effect once again. the abortion rights group is aiming to push for expanded access to abortion in liberal states. anticipating they'll be flooded with people from conservative states where the practice will be severely limited. we had representatives from both bills organizations by the way on the day that the supreme court heard that case on wednesday. giving us a half-hour each to talk about the issue. if you want to see those interviews

national association of colored women and also interacted and actually she had a friendship with susan b anthony so she did interact with women in a slightly different way but then there is a fight for racial equality. >> so when you describe the court battles at the age of 22, she decides to take on the powerful chesapeake ohio and southwestern railroad. give the back story that led up to her deciding the real vote? >> my great-grandmother ida b wells was living in memphis and teaching in tennessee which is about 14 miles away so she had to take the train. and in 1881 with the law to be segregating public transportation so she just ignore the law and then continued writing as before. and then eventually in 1883 they asked her to move from thehe ladies car to the colored car and she refused. and it was thrown off the train in a violent way. >>>> she was literally. >> three men. the train conductor into of the baggage men removed her physically. because she was fighting and one of the things that she wrote about in her journal that was heart wrenching was how she felt that as a women other people

as much as frederic douglas advised seven presidents, what he was doing for women's rights, susan b. anthonyg, he wanted to come back and fight for the 4 million still slaves. i would end like this. i would say that phil phoner brought frederic douglas back in the 40s and now he sits on a high pedestal. i think the more you study him, the more you'll understand why crt is so destructive. understand where america came from. don't white wash slavery. but also understand where we are. >> neil: where with are. "the president and the freedom fighter." brian kilmeade goes all over the country. >> i'll be in fort worth tomorrow and then dallas and then tyler. >> neil: i'm getting tired talking to him. we'll have more after this. i was just blown away by how much my 23andme reports taught me about my health. and that's why i knew how meaningful this gift would be for my family. this season give the most meaningful gift for just $129 it's a thirteen-hour flight, that's not a weekend trip. fifteen minutes until we board. oh yeah, we gotta take off. you downloaded the td ameritrade mobile app so you ca

she also interacted with mary macleod doing and she had a friendship with susan b anthony. then in chicago she worked with jane adams. so she did interact with women. it was in a slightly different way but there was the fight for women's rights and then there was a fight tfor racialequality . >> i have an interest in things legal so when you a described ida b. court battles i was intrigued. at the age of 22 she decides to take on the powerful chesapeake ohio and southwestern railroads so can you give us just the back story. you started to tell us a little bit. what's the back story that led up to her deciding she was going to sue therailroad ? >> my great-grandmother ida b. wells was teaching. she was living in memphis and teaching in tennessee which is 14 miles away. so she also had a commute from there to where she worked. she actually took the train and in 1881, tennessee passed a law segregating the public transportation and my great-grandmother had to still get to work so she just ignore the law and continued writing the way shehad before which was on the ladies car si

president of the planned parenthood action fund, and marjorie dannenfelser, president of the susan b. anthonyme to you both. thanks for being here. marjorie, is this the moment antiabortion activists have been waiting half a century for? what is the best outcome for you? >> after 50 years of not being able to allow the will of t people to make its way into law in the states, this seems like the best opportunity to overturn roe v. wade. the effect of that will be to return to the states their ability to do just that, and claws that reflect the will of the people in each state. so we are hopeful, hoping there is a complete overturn, at a minimum a partial overturn. when that happens it will put us in line with the rest of the world. 47 out of 50 european countries limit abortion before 15 weeks. we don't limit it at any point. amna: alexis, given the fractured landscape of abortion rights across the country, if the court moves to limit row or overturn it, what is at stake? >> 36 million people will be living in states without an abortion provider. it is not just the dozen states that have trigg

a look what it might do for the state depending on the decision of the court saying that the susan b. anthony list prominent of anti-abortion group draft add three-tear list of state prospects for pro-life last post row. messaging campaigns in states where they feel they need to play defense as well as where they need to plan to push for new restrictions. 21 states could swiftly impose bans on abortion. on the opposite end, democrats in colorado are planning toint dues legislation that would codify abortion rights in michigan where they do not control the state legislature. they are pushing a bill that would repeal a 90-year-old abortion ban that could take effect once again. the abortion rights group is aiming to push for expanded access to abortion in liberal states. anticipating they'll be flooded with people from conservative states where the practice will be severely limited. we had representatives from both bills organizations by the way on the day that the supreme court heard that case on wednesday. giving us a half-hour each to talk about the issue. if you want to see those interviews

you know, there were a lot of susan b. anthony anti-choice woman was thrilled.d this justice will protect life. so there was a lot of -- you know, there were signs along the way that -- this was one of the few times trump was keeping his promise to overturn roe. it's so ironic because just a decade before trump would say i'm the most pro-life guy there is. i mean, pro-choice guy there is. so it is a completely ironic thing. but i do think from what i heard in those oral arguments it is pretty clear that i mean amy barrett said why do you need abortion if you can just have adoption? it's pretty clear where this was headed. >> listen, speaking of kind of outrageous comments made on this subject, one of the tortured arguments in favor of overturning roe came from the controversial north carolina freshman congressman madison hawthorne who compared abortions to the development of polaroid pictures. watch this. >> imagine you just walk out of this chamber and outside a gorgeous sunset. you have a polaroid camera and you snap a beautiful picture and a great photo comes

and i pressed the head of susan b. anthony, which is an antiabortion rights group that has been lobbying for that for the last 30 plus years or so about viability. and we well know the statistics here. it is rarely a fetus survives before 24 weeks. i asked her about that, especially with this mississippi case, which is arguing to a certain extent now to stop abortions at 15 weeks because of the viability standard. they believe the bar has now subsequently moved. here's what she had to say about that. >> we believe that the viability standard and not just we, but most people believe the viability standard doesn't make any sense in terms of whether a baby yet to be born lives or dies. so the viability around roe versus wade was at about like 28 weeks, and so for every decade it's changed about a week. somewhere around like 22, 23, somewhere around there. so again, 15 weeks is a conscious decision to place it before viability so that we point to the humanity of the unborn child and whether or not it can live outside the womb on t

across the board here you could sort of tell from the pictures of elizabeth cady stanton and susan b. anthony. these are very well educated upper-class women. they considered themselves ladies. they dressed like ladies. but they were not getting very far with that. so you had to reach out i would say both in the east and the west on just those class borders and the race borders, which certainly in the west, because the west actually was more multiracial than they east coast. there again it was just part of this is a settler society, we don't have so many laws and rules and regulations here. >> that racial question just came in from one of our viewers saying if the western states that encourage suffrage were primarily white, what about suffrage for native american women? >> some native american women and men didn't get the vote until the 1920s, and even later. a number -- gets, get it. a number of native american women and men did get the vote when an act was passed, the people who promoted, thought it would be a wonderful thing for native americans but it turned out to be a disaster. it enabl

and i think, like, you can see, sort of tell from the pictures of elizabeth katie stanton and susan b anthony, these are, you know, very well-educated, upper class women. they consider themselves ladies, dress like ladies. but they weren't getting very far with that. so you had to, you had to reach out, i'd say, both in the east and west beyond just the class borders and race borders. which certainly, in the west, because the west actually was more multiracial than the east as well. so there again, it was just part of that, this is a settler's society, we don't have so many laws and rules and regulations here. >> yeah, that racial question just came in from one of our viewers saying if the western states that encouraged suffrage were primarily white, what about suffrage for native american women and men? >> yeah, that's a -- some native american women and men didn't get the vote until the 1920s and even later. a number -- this gets complicated. a number of native american women and men did get the vote when the daws severalty act was passed. this was an act that the people who promoted though

wade with the president of the susan b. anthony list and the president of pro-choice america.he aids institutes michael ruppal talks about the biden administration's work fighting hiv/aids. "washington journal" is next. ♪ host: the u.s. supreme court today once again becomes the focal point of america's the portion -- abortion debate with demonstrators expected. inside its chambers justices will hear over an hour of arguments indicates that many have called the most significant abortion case in 50 years. good morning, it is the first day of the last month of 2021. this is washington journal. in this first hour we will hear from proponents on both sides of the argument and hear fromou