craig's list hasn't gotten there yet but he will. >> yeah. >> maybe not. >> so when the classified stuff keeps going down, some smaller newspapers will start to have some of those problems as well. >> susan, have you, found anything so far in your study that's, would be a response to that question? >> i think, talked about it very well. >> good. this microphone. >> maury mcanik, white & case. this is addressed to anybody that wants to take it. six months ago my thinking on this issues would be very close to gene's and todaying, probably a little closer to andrew's. informed by a book i'm not endorsing but people should take a look at. called the death and life of american journalism. and there are references to it by chesney and nichols. a lot is based on research of historical role of government indirectly subsidizing the press and some of the ideas talked about here, are talked about in this book as well. but it did cause me to think about this issue in a much different way than i ever had before. as i said my own view has probably shifted as a result of that. i'm also, in a sense child of the '60s and '70s. when one talks about journalism, there is one word that sort of captures journ