and i asked susan craig about it and she was very professional and just confirmed that everything thatd that seemed to me like it was maybe a pivot point for you too. you initially did not have any interest in talking to her. something happened with you alone, where you decided, you know, what? maybe those documents can help and they should get on out there without even knowing what was in them, you decided to hand them over. what was that process like? >> first of all, the crucial difference was that susan craig extraordinary investigative reporter, was finally giving me something concrete that i could do. i had-- i had totally forgotten about the documents, and they didn't matter to me 20 years ago, why do they matter now? after i asked her to leave and took her card anyway, in an interesting bit of unconscious whim, ispersisted and called me and wrote a few times and i thought about it. you know, i still was not necessarily going to do anything because it was not even clear to them what would be in these documents, quite honestly. and i didn't feel yet able to. it would have been ta

democracy disintere disintere disintegrating and people's lives unraveling, i kept thinking about susan craig's letter. i found her business card and i called her. i told her i wanted to help but i no longer had any documents relating to our lawsuit years before. she told me jack bar no, sir ski might still have them. jack barnosky is the lawyer mary had used when they sued over the terms of trump's will. ten days later, i was on my way to jack barnosky's office. the headquarters of his law firm were located in one of two on long buildings sheathed in plu glass, bitterly cold air pushed between them across the wide open space of the enormous parking lot. it's impossible to park anywhere near the entrance. after i found a spot, it took me ten minutes to get to the lobby on my crutches. i negotiated the escalator and marble floors very carefully. by the time i arrived at my destination, i was tired and overheated. 30 bankers boxes lined the two walls and filled a bookshelf. the room's only other contents were a desk and a chair. jack's secretary had kindly put out a pad of paper, a pen, and some

craig. eugene: trump. he have served the russian interest very well. susan.susan: since cogent definitely wants to see trump i think he is, much more ambivalent. >> there is a case to be made. susan: in his mind, that trump is beneficial to china over the long-term but also very difficult for them to deal with the unpredictability. >> and finally the last word of it aaron. aaron: the date with what they have. i would say they would rather have biden. and stability and despite what trump, they think what is doing in the short term. >> i can't think the three of you enough. it's been an incredibly great conversation. the three of you have this extraordinary ability have a lot of humanity altitude. in th. susan, evan, eugene, thank you so much. it into everyone else here, thank you for calling in and participating in state tent. take care. have a nice day. ♪ ♪ on "c-span2", top nonfiction books and authors every weekend. coming up this weekend sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern 20 floors wired magazine in missouri large, discusses his book facebook, the inside story. h

thank susan adams, the minority clerk, jamie mccormack of the minority staff, austin gage, of ranking member roger's personal staff as well as my top staff including clerk steve mark hayes, craig higgins, dean and others. my staff and express my gratitude to past staff members and fellows who supported my work on the subcommittee. [reading names] i almost feel like singing you made me what i am today, but there are so many people that we thanks that if you've been here as long as i have, my heartfelt thanks to all of my past and , these committee achievements are all yours. so thank you very much for indulging me. rogers speaks, i will recognize miss granger for any comments she would like to make. i will then recognize any member of the subcommittee for short comments on the bill. i didn't leave you much time. mr. rogers, please proceed. chair forou, madam your passionate motion to this subcommittee's work. has been a labor of love on your part. your passionate work to help the needy and the world. congratulations on bringing forward the operations bill for 2021, your final one. process thisrk up year were taking place under better circumstances. despite the challenging opera

want to thank susan adams, the minority clerk, jamie mccormick of the minority staff, austin gage, and ranking member rogers personal staff, as well as my staff, including clerk steve, craig higgins, aaron, jean, jason, jean. dana, think wendy, kelly, and elizabeth stanley on my staff and express my gratitude to past staff members and fellows who supported my work on the subcommittee. beth, howard, claire, jamie, jenny, scott fleming, mark isaac, sharon leven, jim townsend, chris bigelow, lucy, gh, sonali, joe ralph,in, mark lopez, michelle, and michael merrick. singing youl like made me what i am today, but there are so many people that we think if you have been here as long as i have. my heartfelt thanks to all of my past and current staff. this committee's achievements are all yours. so thank you so very much for indulging me. speaks, i wills recognize my full committee ranking member, miss granger, for any comments she would like to make. i will then recognize any member of the subcommittee for short comments on the bill. i did not leave you much time. i apologize. mr. rogers, please proceed. well, thank you, madam chair, for your passionate devotion to this subcommit