. >> let's bring in susan del percio, republican strategist and founder of susan del percio strategiesell as howard dean, former vermont governor, former dnc chairman and an msnbc contributor. good to see you on a sunday. >> good to be with you. >> thanks. >> susan, as a republican yourself, what is your reaction to giuliani's comment there, and is that argument really going to fly with black voters? >> well, with what mayor giuliani said, the issue is you're supposed to have done that in the last year or two, like the autopsy from the republican national committee said after the mitt romney loss. that's when you build coalitions, in the off years. it's very hard to build a coalition 65 days before an election. but you know what, donald trump is right to go and meet with everybody, and it shows that he is. and it does two things. one we discussed the last time i was on is that it does appeal to moderate republicans. the other is, is that it really speaks to some folks who feel that the clintons have taken their vote for granted, and maybe it suppresses turnout just a little bit in comp