if you go through the door behind professor jim gates and dr. susan graham, you get to the oval office, and folks in this audience will recognize a number of the other folks at the table at the far right of that picture is mario molina, nobel laureate in chemistry. an amazing group, and the president was enormously engaged in his interactions with pcast. he asked pcast to do 39 different studies in the course of the eight years of the obama administration on topics of great substance and more than the number of studies, he requested and embraced an extraordinary fraction of the recommendations in policy. he placed early priority in his administration on scientific integrity, on open data and public access on s.t.e.m. education and inclusion where inclusion means inclusion for young women and girls and minorities, historically underrepresented in s.t.e.m. fields and the president said you can't win with half the team on the bench. we are wasting a large fraction of the potential science and technology talent in our population by not providing inspirati

gates and find out they have a deal going on in europe. we do not want that to happen. >> that's the point. >> i believe susan rice abused the system and did it for political purposes. she needs to be brought in and questioned. >> all right, congressman, is the senator right? is that an accurate characterization? >> he sound like a guy that spent his sunday golfing with a subject of this investigation, and he did. he's not correct. the white house is the only party that can declassify exactly what chairman nunes saw. i believe if there really is evidence of wrong doing, thaw will show us that but my prediction is they won't because there's nothing there. >> he did play golf last sunday with the president of the united states. are you saying he's just trying to defend the president? he's been a libertarian for a long time. >> he may have honest concerns about government surveillance. that's fine. he has not seen what the white house is referring to and the white house won't show the world what they are referring to. we should only assume based on the track record sh is only an effort to deceive and obstruct an investigation that needs to go

gates and find out that they have a deal going on in europe? >> those names are supposed to be masked. >> that's the point. >> i believe susan rice abused this system political purposes. she needs to be brought in and questioned under oath. >> okay, you believe -- >> is that a fair characterization? >> first of all, there are a lot of alternative facts in the description, and what the senator has done, and i hope it's just out of ignorance, is that he's conflated two very distinct things. let me start over here with susan rice with which we've just discussed. that's a report. it's based -- if you listen to devin nunes based upon a fifa court warranted surveillance of a foreign target and we get the information to susan rice and she wants to understand it better and unmask the american identity, if you can, please and by the way nsa occasionally says no. right? over here what the senator was talking about is something called the 702 program which is a very productive program for the national security agency. those do with e-mails and it's targeted against foreigners who are overseas. now he actually in this case raised an important issue. nsa by law

gates and find out they have a deal going on in europe? >> those things -- >> we do not want that to happen. >> that's the point. >> i believe susan rice abused and questioned. >> you believe that, but none of us here, including senator, with all do respect, know that. >> bring her in and ask her under oath. >> i'm not defending susan rice. >> ask her whether president obama ordered this or whether he knew about it. that is a big deal. if the outgoing administration was actually literally sifting thu things, and part of the administration said we were going to scatter and get much as information, scatter it out there publicly to try to harm the trump miniration. this was a witch hunt that began with the obama administration, sour grapes on the way out the door, using the intelligence apparatus to attack trump, and they did. >> senator paul, you had an audience with president trump at a golf game, recently a couple days. >> happened to be sounding like this. intere interesting. >> who won between the two of you, sir? >> the president is very good, and -- >> oh, my god. >> he probably was the best of the foursome, but there was a wager, and the

tuesday we'll be in alexandria, virginia, to hear susan gates, former vice president at freddie mac, talk about the collapse of the mortgage giant in 2008 and evaluate the chances of it happening again. also that evening we'll be at busboys and poets bookstore in the nation's capital to cover a talk by yale law school professor james foreman. he'll be discussing his book "locking up our own: crime and punishment in black america." wednesday we head the new york where journalists amie parnes and jonathan allen will talking about hillary clinton's 2016 -- will talk about hillary clinton's 2016 campaignful we'll also be in dallas where tony smith will discuss his book, "why wilson matters." thursday we're in durham, north carolina, for a talk by benjamin waterhouse, history professor at the university of north carolina. his book, "the land of enterprise," charts the development of business in america. we'll also be at the smithsonian 's museum of natural history in washington, d.c. with a report on the impact that humans are having on our planet. and on saturday and sunday, we'll be liv