. >> susan glasser, you just heard the white house, their take on the putin call. did president biden in your mind, susan, do what he needed to do today? >> well, the problem more is that this is a completely manufactured crisis on the part of vladimir putin. he has sent 100,000 troops to the border with the ukraine, not because of actions that the united states took or didn't took in the last two months. this is about president biden fundamentally and that's what has america's experts on the region so concerned is because this is constructed almost out of thin air. vladimir putin is talking now about nato and guarantees that it not move eastward. guess what? ukraine is not really any closer to joining nato now than it was in 2014 when putin invaded ukraine the first time. it's questionable what exactly it is that president biden can do to stop putin from whatever it is he intends right now. i do think the scheduling of the january 10th talks between the united states and russia in geneva suggest at least over the next couple weeks there is a possibility of finding

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. >>> let's turn now to jim sciutto, our cnn chief national security correspondent, susan glasser is global affairs analyst and staff writer at the "new yorker." jim, i know you've been doing a lot of reporting on this. until we get the press conference, we won't know exactly what was said but we can assume that president biden spelled out the consequences of more aggression to vladimir putin, and so, what do we think those are? >> so, the readout from the call from the white house, which are always tea leaves, right, there's not a lot of detail in there, does say that he spelled out both economic and other consequences. the economic consequences we know from cnn reporting that that would mean really a higher level of sanctions designed to really hit putin's inner circle, go after their money, in effect, the billions that they have spirited away overseas but also potentially, if the administration goes this far, would seek to consequentially penalize russian businesses, energy producers, for instance, keep them from raising debt on international markets. that matters. that would have

joining me is staff writer for the "new yorker" susan glasser. i was struck heading into the call u.s. officials weren't totally sure what the intent was. it seemed in the wake of the call it was kind of laying the groundwork for the diplomatic talks to come in the second week of january. what is kind of the shape of that landscape right now? >> well, that is an excellent question. you know, in the russian system, right, putin is the one and only decider so he's all about the leader-to-leader interactions and that's part of this temper tantrum. remember, this is a manufactured crisis by vladimir putin. there was no imminent decision by nato to admit ukraine. it's an absolute pretext. if it wasn't nato it would be another pretext because putin has made it clear in recent month that he's eager in revising basically the terms under which the soviet union broke up 30 years ago this week, and so one question is really impossible to answer which is what is inside putin's mind, but i was struck by the very belligerent tone of the russian public messagin

let's discuss with susan glasser. great to see you. steries of this shift inside russia is that millions of russians were killed under the communist regime especially under stalin. putin said the collapse was a great tragedy and been bumping up this soviet no, stalgia. what does he hope to gain from reviving the ghosts of the old soviet union? >> this is a central thing to understand about vladimir putin's two-decade leadership of russia is that soviet nostalgia is at the core of his appeal as a politician, a sense of grievance. he was all about making russia great again long before donald trump was talking about making america great again by lacking backwards. back in 2005 vladimir putin said the breakup was the greatest, not just a great tragedy but the greatest geopolitical catastrophe, never mind world war i. he called it an historical tragedy this week and all about essentially trying to revise and to get rid of the international order that was constructed on the collapse of the soviet union. >> that certainly is the danger. we're

. >> joining me now for more is susan glasser. for military action, it's his impression i believe is how he put it. why is he even saying that because it's not clear -- because it's not true? >> you know, kate, lying works, unfortunately, and pete put has shown this over a long career, two decades in power. we see it in our own democracy. lying works. unfortunately, there's nothing truthful about that statement, and what you have is a global military floors could grow 120b 45,000 troops according to u.s. intelligence estimates. more than 100,000 troops there. would you mobilize your military to respond if you there were that many forces on your border and i cannot underscore this enough. this is a manufacturing crisis that putin has -- there's no imminent action on the part of nato is that would suggest anything like this is warranted. the last time putin invaded ukraine, he already did that in 2014, ukraine was not a member of nato then nor is it now nor is there any prospect of it doing so in any time in the future. >> talking a

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ambassador to ukraine bill taylor, cnn global affairs analyst susan glasser and former cia counterofficial phil mudd. thank you all for being here. you've been in the room where many of these types of phone calls and negotiations have transpired. what do you need to hear from putin to believe he will pull back troops on the ukrainian border and de-escalate this military presence? >> he does need to de-escalate if he is serious about any kind of conversation with president biden or with his people in geneva, he has to pull back. he has to de-escalate as your reporter indicated. this is -- there is no serious negotiation while you've got a gun pointed at your head or 100,000 guns pointed to your head. that is the precondition for any serious negotiation. and then president biden undoubtedly reinforced the -- not just the sanctions which would be coming but, also, the additional support to ukraine in terms of military assistance and a large readjustment, additional troops going to the nato eastern allies, nato allies on the eastern flank. so this is more than just sanctions that president put

susan glasser, staff writer for the "new yorker," co-author with a gentleman to whom she is related but unrelated to the topic of her book, co-author with peter baker of the man who ran washington. secretary of state under george herbert walker bush. martin -- most recently just now the author of the highly acclaimed master of the game. henry kissinger and the art of middle east diplomacy. martin being the court -- of course the twl time u.s. ambassador to israel. this is a study that has attracted martin's attention all the way back to when he was a graduate student. i'm really thrilled we have martin, susan, and stuart together to talk about henry kissinger. the lessons they could draw from the peacemaking experiences in the middle east. i will invite all of you who are joining today's event to participate by sending questions in that we could use in our question and answer discussion later in today's program. if you have a question you would like to filter into the conversation, if you are on zoom please use the question and answer function at the bottom of your zoom bar. if you are

i went to nic robertson at cnn and susan glasser of the "washington post" who both with the battle and us and how many journalists were there. both of them said about 100. the point is if the journalists could get their it's not like to have c-130s and apache helicopters. in fact, jim mattis in his new book interestingly, then brigadier general jim mattis, marine commander, had up to 1500 marines just outside of kandahar and he put forward a plan to put marines in observation post around tora bora. the plan just died on the vine and is also the tenth mountain division in uzbekistan which specializes in alpine warfare. tora bora is a wintry mountainous area at the time of the battle of tora bora and they were not deployed either. we didn't try. i'm not saying if we had tried it would've worked because the mountains got up to 40,000 feet, it's six miles x six miles long. you can go into pakistan very easily. bin laden eventually escaped. it was the middle of ramadan. the afghans were fasting. everything -- the main thing is we just didn't try really in any serious way and is known to bus

with me in studio to share their insights julie hirschfeld david and cnn's eva mcken and susan glasser of the "new yorker." these are snapshots. this is part of what's been gathered by u.s. intelligence, russian troops buildup, about 175,000 groups. battalion groups are increasingly coming in. if you're looking from the sky, if you're looking at the sources says a major military buildup right on the border with ukraine. we were talking before we came on the air. sometimes it's hard to pull back from something like that. what can president biden say to vladimir putin to get him to dial this back, if anything? >> reporter: well, you know, it's interesting. this is like a very more alarmist version, a rerun of the scenario that we saw in the spring before the first biden/putin summit. remember, they had an early summit. there was at that time a kind of ukraine war scare. thousands of troops sent to the border. that is much more significant, i think it's almost twice the size of a potential invasion force that russia has sent to the border due to increase hostilities and there's a question