that was susan goldwater, march 21, 2016. >> right. well, i think there's something to be said for that. at the same time, -- was a practical politician or just a man of principle which he was the countries of the conservative. he was also a practical person. and he would've said wait a minute now, 63 million people voted for this guy, why? and what is he doing? i think he would begin, supreme court nominations, deregulation, tax cuts, strong military, national defense being built up, being concerned about trade that is not just free but fair. i think barry goldwater would've imported all of those things. i am pretty sure he would have. at the same time he probably would have said something like well, why didn't trump's mother wash his mouth out with soap? and make them understand that we do not need a potty mouth. except goldwater would not have used the word potty. >> had digital become known as a conservative historian or historian of the conservative? >> well, i don't think i am. i think this doing of the conservative movement is g