susan rosenberg? what's she doing now? >> teaching at john j. college, she then went to hamilton while. >> teaching another another college? my mind is going to explode. could you ask them what they have a criminal history, could you make sure that your professor didn't do that before you start listening to him? >> when you come out of prison after a terrorism conviction, you might as well have been getting an academic degree because that's the way you get treated. >> what did you think of the ayers exchange? what did you think of the whole thing? >> i thought he was a liar, a punk, he was just like every other terrorist, he blamed the vietnam war for things. justifying his own homicide, sociopathology, the vietnam war, there was an officer killed and he was a member of that conspiracy that killed the officer. when you talk about being anti-war, he wasn't anti-war, he was anti-american winning the vietnam war. that's what he was about. >> not proud to be an american to this day. guys good to see you. when we talked to ayer this is week, we heard one thing over and over, blame it