susan necklace brought the orange turd into the courtroom. and kept it there. the questioning about the orange turd went on and on. stormy daniels said, quote, i don't see instrumental or jail there. you are putting words in my mouth. question, so when you said you were the best person to flush the orange turd down, you weren't saying you were going to be instrumental in causing him to be convicted of a crime? that was not what you meant? answer, no. question, what does that mean? answer, i'm pretty sure this is hyperbole. if someone calls me a toilet, i can say flush somebody. see how that works? now trying to explain a joke to a lawyer in court is always pointless. question. you said you were going to flush president trump? answer, i didn't say president trump. it says orange turd. so, if that is what is interpreted by you, question, what do you mean? answer, i don't know what i mean. question, you have no idea? answer. i'm also not a toilet so it is all. >> i'm asking you what you knew what you meant when you said an orange turd. answer, yes i do. question,

figure. >> there's a pretty intense exchange going on in the courtroom between judge merchan and susan necklace. they had the side bar and what could and could not go into evidence and necklace says turn your attention and exhibit is put up on the screen and merchan says take that down, please. take it down. take it down. he is clearly upset according to our people who are in the courtroom. that it has been put on the screen. he stands up and asking for it to be taken down and calls for another side bar. what do you imagine's going on there? >> you know, when you're in trial day after day after day, people perhaps are surprised by this, but there's a bit of a streak rolled sometimes that goes on because the unexpected always happens. people are exhausted. they go, they leave the courtroom and they're not going home and having dinner and going to bed. they're preparing for the next day. the sides get angry with each other for not turning over witness list or exhibits or taking things out of the order they expected them to be taken out of. there are misunderstanding that occur and obviously somet

>> susan necklace. susan necklace.ace. >> stephen: are we sure that's her name and not just how trump describes her? okay, todd glasses does the opening statement, susan necklace does the cross, johnny bowtie brings me my big mac, and uh, oh, judge big black muumuu is mad at me again. yesterday was primary day in indiana, a fact i totally knew before i read it in the prompter right now. and there was a warning in the results for trump. cuz despite dropping out of the race two months ago, nikki haley still pulled in nearly 22% of the vote. that's gotta sting for trump. that's like your boss telling you sorry, we're passing you up for the promotion and giving it to mark, may he rest in peace. now, indiana is crucial for any republican seeking the white house. in fact, a few years ago, trump said of indiana, it's called importantville. that's why they called the movie "importantville jones and the temple of doom." starring the incredible han solo. his wife was a big furry dog, but boy could she fly that spaceship. since t

but i think susan necklace was brought in to do this.ns in the past in other cases of women in the sex business which, again, that's a little different than this. you know, here stormy daniels is very clear she was a porn star, not a sex worker. susan necklace has done this before, it hasn't worked in other cases -- recent cases. and i don't think it's going to be successful here. >> mary mccord, the verbal sort of -- whatever the transcript, i wasn't -- it read like a verbal assault. it was did you say you bought a ranch, i didn't say i bought it, i said i paid for it, i paid rent for it. susan necklace went after her credibility in saying she had gone to his room for dinner. she obviously thought they were going to leave the room. she told donald trump to, quote, get dressed. was it too much, or is it -- is it just burn it all down if you're a defense lawyer on cross? >> this is where it's hard for i think us to assess when we're looking at the black and white transcript because these -- there's a cadence to cross-examination, there's

trump attorney susan necklace hammering daniels' years of acting and directing in the porn industry saying it gave her, quote, a lot of experience in making phony stories about sex appear real. daniels fighting back, that if the trump story was untrue, i would have ridden it a lot better. their exchanges growing heated. "you've acted and had sex in over 200 porn movies. but according to you seeing a man sitting in bed in a t-shirt and boxer shorts was so upsetting that you almost fainted?" daniels defiant, noting mr. trump was twice her age and bigger. necklace saying you made this up , right? daniels forcefully responding no. necklace pressing, your story has completely changed, hasn't it? daniels again answering no, saying this signed statement where she denied an affair with mr. trump was done while she was trying to comply with the terms of a nondisclosure agreement in which she was paid to keep silent. today the defense argued daniels has a financial stake in trying to take mr. trump down, after making more than a million off her story in books, a strip club tour, and various other me

one susan necklace said to stormy daniels am i correct you hate president trump and stormy daniels said yes. necklace as you want him to go to jail, right? and stormy daniels, i want him to be held accountable. and i'm wondering what does she want him to be held accountable for? she has her own beef with him about a completely different issue but what doug does she have in this particular fight in the court here in new york city today? >> if you're asking what dog she has in this race the only dog is well over a million dollars that the defense attorney made a clear to reputed examples that the money, the american tour, as well as nondisclosure, this woman is doing nothing but making money since the day she met donald trump and yet she admits she hates him. she says as you say, john, he should be made accountable, but at the same time she is absolutely really dug in on the idea that she is happy, she will be dancing if he goes to jail. she is going back and forth on twitter responding to people in vicious ways. but i think most telling about the testimony today is this is a master class

so we saw that on the witness stand to when susan necklace was going after her challenging sometimes really tiny details that necklace said were inconsistent. but to mean stories that daniels has told daniels was ready to shoot back what does it matter or what? really is the difference between these two stories? if one time i said that trump's body guard came up to me and said, mr. trump would like to have dinner with you and another time i said trump did it, but the bodyguard is sort of trump's agent. is that really a difference in the stories? my story has not changed. there was a time when nicholas really went after the fact that stormy daniels is an adult film star. and basically said, you make up things for money and daniels responded, what's happening in my movies is very real. and so is what happened between me and mr. trump. so she had no problem handling a tough cross examination. >> i mean, i still stick to my same thought about that. the idea, if you want to paint her as somebody who was money hungry, shrewd, and with no principles. that's who you want to pay off. and he wa

we also don't know susan necklaces town very important. so how they interact is hard. yeah. and daniel says she doesn't have to pretend to know how to have sex, quote, i'm pretty sure we all know how to do that. >> hello. she says so karen, how much of this is a good idea? i mean we're we're going down roads maybe donald trump is comfortable with, but at home, people watching this, the jury, this is a sideshow mean there is a real defense to be had in this case, the prosecution, for example, have yet to link donald trump to these falsified business records. that's going to all be on the shoulders of michael cohen in the end. write that that's what they have not proven yet. what does this have to do with any of that? this was all about the the election. it says trump attorney todd blanche laughs at the defense table. trump is now leaning forward. she says, i didn't i didn't i don't work in sex clubs. i work in strip clubs. there's a big difference. she says in response to a question about how she's been making money. she's clearly holding her own on cross-examination and i th

susan necklace tried to cast doubt on her story.sking, you have been making money by claiming to have had sex with president trump for a decade, right? >> i've been telling the story what happened to me. >> am i correct you hate president trump? >> yes, said stormy. >> you want him to go to jail, right? >> i want him to be held accountable. >> the former president could be seen shaking his head and cursing. that prompted judge merchan to tell trump's attorney to tell his defendant to cut it out. >> i'm speaking to you at the bench, i don't want to embarrass him. i will talk to him. you need to speak toim had. i won't tolerate that. today susan necklace will ask stormy daniels if she ever talked to the former president about the deal. her answer will likely be no. if she says no or doesn't know why they made the deal or thinks why they made the deal, that is not good enough and account hurt the prosecution case. >> brian: she's been coached so often, you would think she would know what to say. >> they go through mock exa examination

this is where susan necklace the di veterinary picks up.ow, while you've been refusing to pay president trump the money oh him, you've also been making money by claiming you had sex with president trump, right daniel says, are you talking about the book yes. niclas, you've been making money by claiming you had sex with donald trump for more than a decade, right? daniels? i have not been paid for interviews in the united states if that's what you mean, niclas well, that was not my question. my question was, you've been making money by claiming to have had sex with president trump for more than a decade, right? daniels, i've been making money by telling my story about what happened to the niclas. and that story in essence is that you say you had sex with president trump, right? daniels? yes. & that story has made you a lot of money, right? then daniel says, it has also cost me a lot of money. >> and that's that point about costing her a lot of money. and this is the thing i spent a lot of time talking to stormy about, which is because michael

both from the prosecution and defense lawyers susan necklace. a pattern here., the real star of this week, i have to say, was not any of these witnesses but, rather the document that they were there to elaborate. the documents were the stars. the documents do not lie. they establish the prosecution's story. the witnesses were all there to basically elaborate and give context and color for those documents and to give the jurors a story. trials are story telling. and the prosecution using these documentary evidence, decided to tell a brood story and use these witnesses to make that story come to life. >> you know, something that anyone who served on a jury understands is that judges admonish jurors at the start of the trial that they must not dell iberate until all of the evidence is in until they are all in the room together. we are treating the case differently. we are assessing each witness as they testify and every piece of evidence as it comes in. sometimes that leads us to over focus on one bit of the evidence or one facet of the case without seeing the big

enhanced by the cross- examination, because i grossly underestimated her. >> jill, questioning by susan necklacermine her, our senior legal correspondent laura jetter laura jarrett put it as a start throwback to an earlier before me too movement, bringing a disparaging tweets about her, accused of making phony stories, all of that to raise questions about her credibility. did any of this help make their case? >> first of all, david, it was a very weak performance that really fell flat. that's right. it's not only before me too it goes back to the time when rape laws allowed to discuss clothing and whether she deserved it. daniels was better on cross- examination than direct, she was witty and believable. it is a sad thing we are in a world where stormy daniels is more believable, more credible than the former president of the united states, but i think she did a really good job, and as david said it was necessary testimony. the defense opened with the sex did not happen, so that left open for prosecution to have to show that it did and in the kind of details she provided made it credible that sh

that was susan necklace being that aggressive bulldog that donald trump wants her to be. now it wasn't just about the fact that they wanted to go more into stormy daniels, but they were also trying to poke holes in. the story as we per kara scannell, say, that you often the defense will wait until that what they actually here during the prosecution's testimony, you're questioning and then try to reframe their questioning and that's really what they were trying to do here. you saw susan necklace over and over again saying exactly what stormy daniels had said in her testimony, the prosecution and then looking back at old interviews, looking back at old articles at old speaking engagements, everything that she had said in the past, trying to undermine her story here now, of course, the big question is going to be how donald trump reacts, but we do know that one of the things that donald trump has been frustrated with when it comes comes to his lawyers in this case. he wants them to be more aggressive to be that kind of attack dog that pitbull and talking to people close to t

so susan necklace questioning again, you don't know what he was indicted for in this case. you don't have any idea and stormy daniels said business records and susan nechele said you know, nothing about the business records, right? stormy daniels replied, i know knowing about his business records, no. why would i i know nothing about his business records and she said you know, nothing about what he does or does not know about the business records, right. and stormy daniels said, no, that shouldn't be sum total of their comments, right? hey, you should out and stormy daniels so that's it, guys. >> everybody standby. there's a lot more coming up just ahead. we'll have more on those major rulings during the trial today, the judge refusing to change the gag order on trump and again, denying his request for a mistrial. we'll talk about that more with a former judge standby urine the situation that trump hush money trial gavel to gavel coverage away only cnn can bring it to you. >> legal insight, expert analysis, and real-time updates live from the courtroom follow the facts, foll

roshan is saying of susan necklace y-intercept, you wouldn't have object to the mention of a condom? i don't understand this is because susan nechele less said that it was a dogwhistle to mention that donald trump had sex with a stormy daniels allegedly, although he disputes it without a condom, a dog whistle for rape some of the headlines coming in from the courtroom right now is the judge discusses this motion for mistrial. the judge said and going back to the very opening statements, mr. blanche the defense attorney, and your opening statement you denied there was ever a sexual encounter between stormy daniels and the defendant, and that is the point that he's raising their of paula reid and jeremy. is that you didn't by denying it, you put her credibility at issue and by doing that, you open the door for the prosecution to ask her to tell the story. is that right? and then when there were certain details, you didn't like about using protection, you didn't object. >> and it's interesting, the judge revealed that he's going back and actually reviewing the transcript. he looked at th

and susan necklace said, you've made 200 movies. and a man in his 60s, and the boxers and the t shirt that made you faint, she's like, well, i just wasn't expecting it didn't come off as credible, but daniels, defiant on the stand when trump's lawyer asked, you have a lot of experience of making phony stories about sex appear to be real, daniels fired back. >> the sex in the films is very real, just like what happened to me in that room. she added that if she were to fictionalize her encounter with trump, i would have written it to be a lot better. the defense once again moved for a mistrial, claiming daniels graphic account was extremely prejudicial. testimony but the judge refused, telling trump's lawyers you deny that there was ever a sexual encounter between stormy daniels and the defendant. your denial puts the jury in a position to decide who they believe. daniels late yesterday called trump out directly, writing on social media, real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court. oh wait, never mind

>> i mean, out of the gates, susan necklace, just with pounding her with questions and daniels was responding so quickly that twice the judge had to both tell them stop. you're talking over each other. the court reporter hand take this down. so it was very combative, but daniels was holding our ground. she would she was making some jokes. she made a joke about being pressed on how much she's profited from this. and she said, will not unlike mr. trump over there, who's profited from his indictments this jury is very poker face. i have not seen any reaction from them reacting to testimony. they've just taken it all straight. they take notes, a number them, flip through their notepad. but i have not seen any reaction. the only reaction i saw from a juror today was when a different witness had become emotional, they lifted up a box of tissues and handed with the security officer who handed it to the witness, but otherwise, i've not seen any reaction. they just follow it like a tennis match. lawyer witness. lawyer witness. going back and forth, are there well, just picking up on the jury, being in

grilling was trump a 30 and therapist trying to make it through another one of your dumb stories, susan necklace. necklace really tried to throw storming off, suggesting that as a porn star, she had -- to which stormie responded that the sex in such films is very much real and if the story of her night with trump had been made up, i would have written it to be a lot better. [applause] >> oh! >> stephen: damn! in addition to hearing about it, the jury got to see her spank him in real time. for years she was down with the nondisclosure agreement and couldn't talk about her time when afterwards for eventually breaking her silence, even though you agreed you would not discuss the story, you then decided you wanted to publicly say that you had sex with donald trump. stormy's response, "no. nobody would ever want to publicly say that. [laughter and cheering] that's good. that's good. it is true, no one wants to admit to having sex with donald trump, that is why on don jr.'s birthday certificate the father is listed as "no comment." for weeks his trial has been -- yesterday on his day off from court, y

susan necklace does the cross, johnny bowtie here brings me my big mac, and uh-oh big judge black muumuuat me again." yesterday was primary day in indiana, a fact i totally knew before i read it in the prompter right there. and in this primary, there were warnings in the results for donald trump. 'cause despite her dropping out of the race two months ago, nikki haley still pulled in nearly 22% of the vote. wow! she's not even -- that's gotta sting for trump. that's like a boss telling you "sorry, we're passing you over for the promotion and giving it to mark. may he rest in peace." now, indiana is crucial for any republican seeking the white house. in fact, a few years ago, trump said of indiana, "it's called importantville. yes, that's why they called the movie "importantville jones and the temple of doom" starring the incredible han solo. his wife was a big furry dog, but boy, could she fly that spaceship." since trump's criminal trial -- i've confused my stage manager. since trump's criminal trial is off today, cnn finally had the bandwidth to cover the second-most important story in

trump attorney susan necklace asked daniels, quote, you despise him and make funnel of him? daniels responded, quote, because he started it. daniels will again take the stabbed when court resumes thursday morning at 9:30. she will answer more questions from trump's attorneys and the prosecution has already signaled they have more questions for daniels as well. bret? >> bret: nate foy outside the courthouse. nate, thanks. president biden today said there is no place on campus or anywhere else for what he calls a ferocious surge of anti-semitism. the president told an audience at the holocaust remembrance event that his administration is working around the clock to try to free american hostages, captured during the hamas massacre in israel last october. this comes as there are continued concerns about israeli military activity in gaza in the administration and up on capitol hill. white house correspondent jacqui heinrich joins us now with the latest from the north lawn. good evening, jacqui. >> good evening, bret. the white house is optimistic there's room for progress as ceas

trump lawyer susan necklace questioned her accountability. stormy told the court i never asked from anyone in particular, i was asking for money from publications to sell my story to get the truth out. trump's lawyers pointed out she ended up getting paid for the story to not come up. daniels agreed to an nda with michael cohen for $130,000. daniels said she signed it for her safety. former u.s. president donald trump again criticized the gag order today saying his lawyers officially challenged the order in court today. 1 of 3 major issues trump's lawyers will bring before judge juan merchan when the jury is let out early today at 4:00. the gag order is an issue and we also expect trump's lawyers to ask for in this trial yet again and they also reportedly have concerns about possible testimony from the former playboy model karen mcdougall. again that is at 4:00. back to you martha. >> martha: okay thank you nate foy. let's bring in jim trustee former particle -- federal prosecutor and attorney for john -- donald trump. good to see you. >> alo

and update martha about the gag order as the afternoon session began, trump attorney susan necklace presentederal articles he wants to post on true social but is unsure if it would be a gag order violation. the judge didn't give an immediate decision but said if there is any doubt, trump should steer clear. will send it back to you. >> martha: thank you nate very much. nate foy here at the courthouse and let's go to kayla mcelhinney cohost of what matters. and beta heavy with a scaly. nate laid out very well the issues we heard about this morning, there are four pending gag order violations and president trump has been very clear how he feels about those -- they say it is unfair for him to stay quiet while everyone else is coming at him. but want to ask about this other issue kaylee. it was an interesting moment in court when keith davidson talked about an exchange he had with michael cohen. in december before the president took office khaki learned he was not going to be as he thought he might be either chief of staff are potentially attorney general and he called keith davidson who is out c

when susan necklace got up there, that is when she was cool, confident, in her element and you couldack in her mind, quit after quit, very witty. i think that this is, if she got the experience, got the cool, collective nests from experience, lookout for that was michael cohen. he's been to this rodeo before. we've talked before during the civil fard -- civil fraud trial point he testified. he knows what the defense wants. >> and he shows up on our shows very often and will always fests to what he's done, he's comfortable with that, so no one is going to surprise michael cohen, with oh, you know you did this, you lied to congress . he is chapter and verse about what he did. >> you know what, look, for someone like michael cohen, this is truly the end of it, right? there may be other issues that come up for him later on, but this is what he has been waiting for, this is what all that testimony was for, everything he has done to make sure he has done his redemption tour. this is what it is for but it does not mean the entire case rest on michael cohen. that's a huge fallacy that the de

where she was for example, talking about-- she was asked about her reaction to the indictment, susan necklace her incredulously that she didn't know what the indictment about, she implied there were a lot of indictments. there were a lot of laughter moments. she was pressed about her merchandise, say, she was monetizing on the indictments, and she said not unlike mr. trump. and these were not isolated lines. it was one after another, after another. there was a lot of laughter in that courtroom, and the jury, they were smiling. there was definitely a back and forth. you sometimes see that in trials where jurors, especially during contentious cross- examination, she glances at the witness, and the attorney, a volley like a tennis match. noticeable was the kind of solid professionalism of this jury. as for their look at the defendant, one thing is probably no reporter knows exactly what they saw quite like the judge and jury, just because of the mechanics. look at the layout, even for the best seat in the house where the press is seated, we are seeing the back of the head, they are looking at th

trump, also appearing to be very engaged as defense attorney susan necklace, tried to question daniels at times, daniels defiant and defensive on the stand. prosecutors say trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, wired $130,000 to daniels just days ahead of the 2016 election, in exchange for her silence about her alleged sexual encounter with trump back in 2006. prosecutors allege trump repaid cohen and illegally characterized it as a legal expense, charging him with falsifying business records. trump has pleaded not guilty to the charges and denies that encounter with daniels necklace, asking daniels, you have no personal knowledge of trump's involvement in that agreement and what he did and didn't do. daniels responding not directly. on tuesday, daniels walking jurors through her alleged night with donald trump in explicit detail. daniels adamant that she's telling the truth, adding that doing so has cost her, saying she's hired security and moved several times. >> stormy daniels job on the stand for prosecutors was just to set the scene of what happened. that was a story was a night t

there was another response she had about whether stories were made up and her response to susan necklaceo very funny and inspired and turn it around on her. donald trump had a mug shot taken in georgia and almost immediately turned around and started aching money off of it from his supporters, from any number of his criminal defense trials, cases, who is going to -- stormy daniels for doing the same thing? it does not matter what we think, it matters what the members of the jury think. matt: trump attorneys went after her hard, tried to attack her credibility, paint her as an opportunist. is that for the jury in the room or the court of public opinion outside? matt: i think it was for the jury. donald trump only needs one juror to acquit for a hung jury. that may be the end of the whole thing. is there one juror who could impeach her character? that may be the best -- i don't think trump can win on merits. i thing he is dead to rights in terms of the subtext. they throw enough -- can they throw enough at the wall and tried to take down stormy daniels, michael cohen and make them look bad

if susan necklace asks her that today and she says i don't know, expect the trump defense attorneys to going to have an interesting today in court. eric shawn, right in the middle of it. thank you very much. >>> a legal analyst at cnn claims stormy daniels' testimony is disastrous for alvin bragg. roll it. >> her responses were disastrous. do you hate donald trump is? yes. of course she does. that's a big deal. when the witness hates the person whose liberty is at stake, that's a big damn deal. and she's putting out tweets fantasizing about him being in jail? that really undermines the credibility. the fact that she owes him $5000,000 -- 500,000 by order of a court owes donald trump a half million dollar cans and says i will never pay him, i will defy a court order, the judge is going to say she's not willing toment respect the order of a judge, why is she going to respect this oath she took? stuart: how about that? elliott question big is with us, a former manhattan d.a. prosecutor and joins me now. elliott, does her testimony hurt the prosecution? >> a big part of the job as a prosec

and susan necklace said, you've made 200 movies and a man in his 60s, and the boxers and a t shirt that made you faint, she's like, well, i just wasn't expecting it. it didn't come off as credible. >> but daniels, defiant on the stand when trump's lawyer asked, you have a lot of experience of making phony stories about sex appear to be real, daniels fired back. the sex in the films is very real. just like what happened to me in that room. she added that if she were to fictionalize her encounter with trump, i would have written it to be a lot better. the defense once again moved for a mistrial, claiming daniels graphic account was extremely prejudicial testimony, but the judge refused , telling trump's lawyers you deny that there was ever a sexual encounter between stormy daniels and the defendant. your denial puts the jury in a position to decide who they believe. daniels, late yesterday called trump out directly, writing on social media real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court. oh wait, never mind. it comes as we learn that one of the potential pros

affair with donald trump, including explicit details when former president trump's attorney, susan necklace had her turn, she aimed to discredit daniels, trying to point out inconsistencies in her past accounts of the encounter. >> nicholas also questioned daniels about her motivations to get paid to stay silent, versus wanting to get her story out, and daniels was asked if she has continued to make a living off her encounter with trump. >> what there showing the jury now is that she had this economic motive all along, but also her credibility is in tatters. >> you're a star. testify in a fraud trial about the leader of the free world in his boxers, on a bed about to commit an extramarital affair that has no place in a fraud trial. >> some legal experts say they're still waiting to see smoking gun evidence. prosecutors need to prove trump falsified business records to conceal a crime, like trying to influence the 2016 election. each day, supporters of the former president have joined him in the courtroom, like florida senator rick scott. >> what he is going through is just despicable. it's

and trump's legal team today, led by susan necklace, try to poke holes in inconsistencies she hated givenshe has not given a consistent story. one example, they spent a good deal of time trying to parse out whether stormy daniels ever said that she literally ate a meal with him in that meal the night of the alleged affair. neckla also try to paint her, as you mentioned, as solely being out for money and said, how much money were you making on the documentary in the book, and the interviews that you have given over the years. i mean, it was very testy, very combative. and there were times where daniels seemed extremely defiant, and there were times where she seemed to actually enjoy the jousting back-and-forth. in contrast to how she was tuesday, where she seemed much more nervous, today she seemed much more eager for the fight. there was one point at which necklace was trying to show all the merchandise she sells on her website and through her instagram page, where she is promoting appearances at strip clubs or she makes some mention of her relationship with trump. necklace was saying you

susan necklace, you were looking to extort money from mr. trump, right?ou did, right? false. >> yeah. and this is -- this is the theory of many of donald trump, joy. you saw this when you were in court. there's all these theories thrown on the wall by the defense. one is she extorted money. how does she extort money if her lawyers negotiated with michael cohen for the amount, and donald trump signs the agreement that allows them to use pseudonyms to be able to have a nondisclosure agreement? that's the most elegant form of extortion i have ever seen. if he didn't want to pay her the money, he didn't have to. if he didn't want to silence her, he didn't have to. what's key is when the prosecution gets up in closing and weave it all together and remind the jury what was promised in opening statements. the lies by the defense that there was not a repayment to michael cohen for a reimbursement, that there wasn't anything that happened. think about that, the only person who was in the room with stormy daniels is donald trump. do you think he's going to take the

update on the testimony, the cross-examination of madeleine westerhout is now underway led by susan necklacetorneys. madeleine westerhout was trump executive assistant at the white house she got emotional on the stand neil talking about positive memories she has about trump and his family she spoke about his relationship with his wife and it's 1 of mutual respect and she said she thinks he is treated unfairly. she also talked about facilitating his calls and communication including with dave parker. she also answered question about how finances were handled she said checks would arrive from new york and she would bring them to trump for him to sign parachute testified he is vary detail oriented and didn't have a computer or e-mail account he preferred heart documents. and as he mentioned film actress stormy daniels wrapped up her testimony. you see her here with her lawyer in the courthouse today in the waiting room as she took the stand. trump's attorneys question her about her credibility and motives. daniels maintains she just wanted to get her story up a trump's lawyers pointed to all of

actress stormy daniels' understand right now being cross-examined by trent -- trump attorney susan necklace daniel's is that -- answering question about previously denying having an affair with former president trump and she's referencing a time that she says that she was threatened in a parking lot in 2011. she's also being questioned about her finances and not paying trump for attorney fees that she owes him for a separate lawsuit mcdaniel testified she hates trump and previously posted that she would dance down the street if he went to jail. daniels is also answering questions about a book that she wrote, -- if she talks about sex. daniels said "no, although that does seem to be the case go daniels this position has changed noticeably since her cross-examination began while answering questions from prosecutors earlier, daniels provided great detail. your answers know are much shorter. here's an exchange with necklace moments ago "necklace asked her "you despise him and make one of them picking up trump. daniels responded, "because he started." daniels testified that she met trump and had

it was defense attorney susan necklace who ledaminat the cross-examination, and she got stormy danielsto admiiot that stormy hates donald trump, that stormy wants to see donald trump in jail. she also pursued a line of questioningalso about stormy motives behind the nondisclosure agreement and ultimatelys besclosure sellr her story. stormy daniels admitted she was motivatemy daniels d by money. no trial tomorrow, jesse. trial picks up again on thursday. stormy daniels takes the stand again with cross-examination.. >> i'll send it back to you. thank you so much. joining me now, formerbaesse: tl prosecutor k.t. schakowsky. >> k.t., this judge seems like. he has no control. >> he lets this woman testif ley in just a disgusting manner. total ridiculousness, hearsay. and then he says, all right, that, you didn'td th hear that. >> forget you heard that. what kind of judge is this? well, i thind of js thk it's say that whoever paid for stormy daniels silence deserves a refund at this point, becausee we've heard every dirty detail and all of it's completelyy irrelevant. and in fact, it should

all led up to this trump's attorney, susan necklace, heavy handedly, the asserting that the adult film actress had made it all up necklace& you've bragged about how good you are about writing porn movies and writing really good stories and writing really good dialogue, right daniels? yes. necklace. and now you have a story you've been telling about having sex with donald trump, right? daniels. and if that story were untrue, i would have written it a lot better. there was laughter in the courtroom daniels hover of course, is not the only headline witness to take her turn under the oath. >> the jury also heard from madeline western out that's a former for gatekeeper really to the president and the head of oval office operations. she's out right outside the oval office when donald trump was president and she recounted how she functioned as this unofficial delivery service at time running these checks between trump tower and the white house? she also gave the jury a window into something that we haven't heard up to this point, really the trump marriage and donald trump, as she described it

that he had set up and then it was also interesting to see this cross-examination by his lawyer, susan necklace. we really haven't heard from during this trial. >> it was aggressive and at times devastating for stormy daniels. >> now, again, she won't make or break their case, but this has been a very effective de from the defense and clearly there hi, i had a lot to say about what they should be doing. >> drops attorneys are set to resume cross-examination of stormy daniels on thursday. wednesday, i think the judge hears other cases at times today. stormy daniels appeared really quite tense when facing questions from trump's defense team yeah, we knew this was going to be unpleasant. >> i mean, they got her to admit that, yes. she hates the defendant. she said that she would quote, dance if you went to jail she always have hundreds of thousands of dollars as a result of other litigation and they pulled a tweet where she said she doesn't want to pay that quote, orange turd, a single dime. they also undercut her credibility, getting her to contradict herself. i mean, it really because i can unco

this is when susan necklace, the defense attorney, says the stormy daniels. am i correct that you hate president trump daniels? yes. necklace and you want him to go to jail, right? daniels. i want him to be held accountable. necklace, you want him to go to jail, am i correct daniel's if he's found guilty the absolutely niclas and you tweeted in the past that quote, i won't walk all dance down the street when he selected to go to jail, correct? daniel's can you show me that's exactly what i said. that's not necklace then says, can we please pull up j to exhibit j2 only for the witness and the parties, please. the exhibit shown she looks at it. she goes a-ha in daniel's laughs. susan niclas did you just laugh? daniel says select it is in quotes because i'm quoting something that's someone else said because i knew you don't get selected to go to jail. niclas you just laughed about that, right? objection. from the prosecution. daniel says it's a typo. the judge says overruled. stormy daniels says that's why it's funny. you don't get selected to go to jail. daniel

susan necklace, has a very strong reputation as a trial defense lawyer. she has much more experienced than the men on that table. at that table, but i it's hard to separate when someone is working for donald trump. what's their own? >> once i'm wondering on the reporting because there were a lot of talk today that this was performative perhaps for donald trump and extensor or at least add the behest abdominal. >> some of it's certainly felt like something he would like whether i mean she is susan nechele known as a very tough, aggressive lawyer in the courtroom but continuing to go at stormy daniels in this very contentious back-and-forth felt in the courtroom like a losing prospect after the first several times isn't it also possible that the miss trial motions themselves are about pleasing pleasing donald trump. those lawyers are smart enough to know they're not gonna win those miss trial motions. but they seem to be doing making these motions because they get to denounce the proceedings just like the way their client is doing in the press conferences a

. >> but susan necklace, trump's attorney, said to stormy daniels you know, you said that your integral to donald trump going to jail and she said, where did i say that? show me where i said that. and she shows this tweet. it's a tweet from daniels that call falls trump an orange turkey that she's going to flush. daniel said that was in response to someone else's post. so the defense says you are responding to the post, someone else's post there, daniels. yeah, someone calling me a human toilet. so i capitalize on the joke defense. the other posts, michael cohen and stormy daniel's, aka the human toilet, or their star witnesses, right? daniels? yes. defense you said exactly making me the best person to flush the orange turd down? daniels. yes. i don't see instrumental or jail. there you're putting words in my mouth i mean she's right she was putting words in their mouth. does that hurt the attorney no i think if you're putting words, they're not accurate and then the prosecution comes back and challenged it effectively, or the defendant or pardon me, the witness challenges that effectiv

she's being questioned by donald trump's defense team, specifically trump attorney susan nicholas. necklace is saying and basically questioning stormy daniels ability to tell the truth given the financial stakes you are looking to extort money from from president trump. nicholas asks false daniel says raising her voice, this has to do with the fact that nicholas is questioning whether or not stormy daniels was actually threatened by someone who told her to keep her mouth shut. this is a story that stormy daniels told anderson cooper in 2018, i believe i also said on the stand under oath today, and i think is at the heart of when donald trump sued for defamation. there is no evidence that of anybody threatening her, which is not to say it didn't happen, just to say she did not report it to the police and there's no evidence of it. necklace returns back to the story from 2011 actually, asking whether she authorized keith davidson to have the story taken down. all i know is i wanted to down she said, i was much braver person in 2016 than i was in 2011. a lot of this back-and-forth about whethe

this other ideas, whether she's being honest and here's susan necklace appear to catch her in a lie,hich she asked if she told boy are all read that she had had sex with trump stormy daniels said that she did tell glory all read that and then isn't that gold is brought up stormy daniels book. read from it and appeared that that wasn't true. so they teach the witness right there on the stand really undercut her credibility. and again, this is contentious. stormy daniels is upset. she's a times at cocking her head, firing back at the defense attorneys. this is not going well for stormy daniels but i'd say it's pretty much what we expected yeah. i think you knew they're going to be aggressive. you knew the former president clearly probably told him it pose, please be aggressive personally, get underscores the fact that this is a witness that has openings or vulnerabilities for attack and they're certainly going after them. i think to paul last point, the contradiction between what stormy daniels has said as somebody else has said, as it relates to her book, which susan nechele is hold o

you have susan necklace who is the only female member of donald trump's team and she largely has been to trump and doesn't seem to engage with the other attorneys as well but this is her moment and she has come out, you know, guns blazing and she is attacking the fact that stormy daniels' storm has changed and she initial denied that there was a sexual encounter and now that she is saying there was. again, stormy daniels explained a lot of of that on direct but expect a lot of bringing up old tweets. she has an ax to grind. she has come out and hates donald trump and came out on cross-examination. she is going to try to dirty her up and say this is about money and getting her name out there and not about the truth of anything that she is saying. i'm not sure how effective that will be. i thought on direct she was humanized. she did explain why her story has changed and i thought it was effective but we will see what happens on cross. >> joyce, i want to get your take on the other pretty seismic event in the trump legal world yesterday and that is out of florida where judge cannon post

defense attorney susan necklace highlighting her shifting details from that story in 2006 to insinuateow i would put it. the sex in the films is real, just like what happened to me in that room. mr. trump's former fixer michael cohen made a $130,000 payment to daniels days before the election. the defense tried to cast daniels as simply hungry for money and fame and determined to help put mr. trump behind bars because it would help her bottom line, pointing to past tweets mocking his legal woes and her current catalog of merge including a $40 candle depicting her as stormy saint of indictment. you're selling things from your store? daniels shooting back, not unlike mr. trump. >> what a week in court. jonathan lemire, author of "the big lie" now out in paperback. what can we expect out of michael cohen's testimony? also, i wonder if the defense will go after him credibility-wise just as they did stormy daniels. >> that's a safe bet. michael cohen is the blockbuster witness of this trial. stormy daniels certainly brought some sizzle, but perhaps her testimony in some ways unnecessary, so

i think you'll also, i expect that susan necklace, who is on the defense team, who we haven't really seen yet do any thing in court. i suspect she is going to be the one cross-examining her based on the fact that she was the one earlier today asking that certain details about the sex. she asked the court that that not come in. and so what the prosecutors are doing today is they're going to show all the contact that donald trump had was stormy daniels and it's more than once? yes, they only had sex wads, but there were multiple times that they would meet up, that they would talk on the phone, and that there was promises that should be on the apprentice, but then she wasn't on. they had dinner at some point, so they're going to talk about all the different times they had contact and then later when they there came a time to negotiate this nda, she'll talk about how she tried to sell the story years before, but there was no market for it. but then around the time of the election that's when it became much more valuable to her to trump or to be able to sell her story. so i think it's key

susan nechele, she asked, am i correct? >> that you hate president trump, to which stormy said, yes necklace said and you want them to go to jail, right? >> stormy said, i want him to be held accountable. necklace then said, you want him to go to jail. >> am i correct? she responded if he's found guilty yes. now, there'll be a lot made about her motivation, whether she's bias, whether she can no longer be objective to be credible based on her feelings towards the former president in states. >> what did you think of that exchange? >> i think it's completely natural and understandable for stormy to have the feelings towards a man that is called her horse face. >> that has repeatedly called her a liar about an encounter that not only is clearly true, but you had violated her in in quite awful ways. she of course, we know violated her. talk to you about i want to clarify that when you say violated, i think you're good. i was wearing now. yeah. excuse me. >> yes yes. >> when she discussed today in her testimony about how she checked out, she blacked out from the moment that it began to the moment in that moment when you're a pe

here's how trump attorney susan nicholas pressed former white house assistant madeleine westerhout on this issue. full screen here we go. necklace and there were times with all of these, would you say it was hundreds of documents that he was signing westerhout? not every day, but sometimes. uh-huh. >> necklace. and this was in-between other things that he was doing, right? westerhout? oh, yes. uh-huh. necklace. and so would you see him signing things without reviewing them yes. said westerhout necklace. and would you see him signing checks without reviewing them? westerhout? yes. necklace. and you would see him signing checks while he was on the phone? oh, right. westerhout? yes necklace. would you see them sometimes signing checks when he was meeting with people westerhout? yes how strong was that? >> do you think for the defense, i lived that was very strong. you know, you have to also put it in perspective of the corporation that there are any no, they're up at the top at trump tower and those offices are we're very busy. >> well, this was was he was in the white house though. >> oh, when he is not white house, i haven't been