susan rice should not resign.is she's not out there on her own dime anyway. she's reflecting military policy and what they want to convey. >> ari, let me ask you, you worked in the bush white house, how should you handle putting out this kind of information. i'm sure you're criticized for being too far in front of your skis or for withholding information that the public should know about. >> the first 24 hours after an attack like that, you should not rush to conclusions. that first mountain of intelligence changes quickly. it's a scene no one can get their arms around yet and it takes time. i thought the administration for trying to down play it right from the start. the times square bomber they said had no connections and the underwear bomber as well but they did. they want to act and talk difference to they down play, but once something like this happens, what you really need to do is say we're gatoring the facts, it will take time, we don't rule anything in or out. here they seem to just want to rush to blame

susan rice knew and she went on national tv saying otherwise. president obama may well have known and we ask tonight why shouldent susan rice resign and why shouldn't hillary clinton resign and why doesn't the buck stop with obama himself? this evening, with 1.3% gdp collapsing business investment and a contraction in chicago fed manufacturing, our question is, is this a stall speed speed recovery or are the signs out there that we are going back in to recession? in in addition, want a clue to what balm's patriotic policies are? look at a france. today france instituted a 75% tax rate for millions. more taxes and spending is coming here and i will show you how. first up, 17 days since our ambassador and three american heros were murdered by terrorists in benghazi. the obama white house is chajing their story again tonight. listen to what susan rice told the sunday shows two weeks ago, that a was five days after the attack. >> what happened in benghazi is in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had transpired hours before in cairo. >> we

. >> it's susan rice. >> sean: it's hillary clinton. >> let's go to susan rice. five days after this terrorist attack, she is booked on five national news shows and goes out and uses the exact terminology, spontaneous, not premeditated, not preplanned at all. they were told to go out there by people who must have known the intelligence, therefore using these people, these administration people to deceive and mislead unless they were utterly stupid about what happened. we ought to find out who told ms. rice to go out and say that, who told carney to go out and say that, because we know it was ultimaterly false. it was complete a terrorist attack. >> sean: here's the problem. this president still is blaming this youtube movie trailer that was released in july. he's still blaming them. we have the mother of one of our navy seals killed here, and she's demanding answers, as should the ambassador's family, the other navy seal and the other person. banghazi is a hotbed for terrorist training, pat. this is not brain surgery. >> sean, let me tell you about banghazi. the

susan rice on sunday shows to defend the position.e learning it was a preplanned terrorist attack conducted on the anniversary of 9/11 and that it involved elements of al-qaida. look, you know, we are not going to be able to confront the challenges that face us in the middle east if we are not honest about them. anti-americanism is on the rise, the muslim brotherhood is in charge in egypt, and our relationship with israel is on the rocks. now as we turn the corner into the new year, because of the president's mismanagement of the budget, we are looking at devastating cuts to our defense budget. mitt romney will restore those cuts and make sure that america pursues a strategy of peace through strength and he'll make it unmistakably clear that we standby our allies like israel. bill: if this story plays out the way it appears what does it suggest what the administration's motives were in the early hours of this story? >> look, i think it's disappointing that it now appears the administration was attempting to mislead the american people

susan rice didn't go out there on her own.he didn't think on herself i will two go tout american people and tell this was spontaneous attack at as a results. you do what the bolgs told you. somebody told her to do that. the question is did that person know about these intelligence report officially declaring this tear rate of attack and not spontaneous protest. >> go he had ahead mark. >> jay carney give him a pass he is not in the intelligence loop. susan rice the ambassador, they chose the person it be spokesman on national security. you don't think she was not briefed about true intelligence. they put her on five sunday shows. megyn: we're left with more questions than answers. i appreciate both you guys being here. simon, mark. thank you so much. don't go away. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. ph

allen west is talking he is not happy at all with ambassador susan rice. >> when i rist ento do susan rice today several words came to mind, asinine, naive, inem president incompetent. when you look at the government the intelligence service put out a letter about potential threats and up riceings about a week before that. it was printed in the jerusalem post on 9-11. having been in a combat zone several times after 9-11 we were on a higher state of security and alertness on 9-11. should have been the exact same thing here. for susan rice to say this was not a rel coordinated attack. i have to ask her what her line of expertise and understand what a stance as well. the president in libya confirms that. >>> more on that every day as we continue to monitor the situation. >>> overnight at least 7 people were killed by a homicide bomber in baghdad. the attacker crashed into a car near the heavily secured green zone chth 26 people were injured and several other cars caught on fire. >>> a new development in one of the most sensational crimes the fatal vision case. now the former green beret

they deceived the country, sending susan rice out on the sunday shows and attending that this was the outcrop -- outgrowth of a demonstration. everybody over the age of nine could see that it was premeditated. that is why it was ppressed until it could no longer be suppressed. >> i am not aware of the conspiracy that charles has his own strange and wonderful sources -- >> how do you explain her -- >> i am going to try to explain my moderator's question about this. the problems were pulle -- the problem republicans have is that mitt romney has never c cracked the threshold of being a possible commander in chief. it does punish the obama record, and there's no question that osama bin laden took the wind out of the cells of the republican candidates. it was an enormous credential for obama. but because romney chose paul ryan, he in no way filled out the emptiness of his own resume in foreign policy. for that reason, he has not been able to exploit what should be an advantage. >> can you explain why susan rice insisted that the attack the embassy was the result of a demonstration? >> it i

susan rice the u.n. ambassador said it started as a demonstration about that video, and then involved other elements, who joined spontaneously. it's been shifting ever since. the president initially called it an act of terror. he has not done so since then but his spokesman has said since then that it is obviously self-evidently an act of terror, and now this statement from the spokesman for the director of national intelligence, who says in part, we do assess that some of those involved were linked to groups affiliated with, or sympathetic to, al qaeda. >> can i ask you, susan rice, she's under fire from peter king. of course he's a republican congressman. he's been calling for her resignation, saying she hasn't been forthcoming with the truth. so what does the white house say about that? >> they did put out a spokesman in defense of ambassador -- statement in defense of ambassador susan rice yesterday. it stems from a couple of sundays ago. she was on some of the sunday shows, including "meet the press

when susan rice goes out on tv and says this was spontaneous and all because of a movie?interesting about susan rice, immediate response, david gregory did not push her. netanyahu came on david gregory was aggressive. but with susan rice she was able to talk about narrative of a film being the cause without any push back. however, i disagree with judy the u.s. media got it wrong. international media has been right from the beginning. they have been looking at this and they called it a terrorist attack pretty fast. >>> judy adore you, but there was a meaning, maybe it came from someplace. maybe if i was the obama administration, our embassy just got attacked on 9/11, and an ambassador was killed. i better blame a mob or movie, put a something over the reality it's an al-qaeda hit on an u.n. ambassador with no security and journal on friday i did a terrific job on death of this ambassador and three other americans. mainstream media would be all over it and hillary clinton and homeland security is being grilled how it happened. it's not happening because there was a meeting

when susan rice sat down at the table with me last sunday, the same desk. asked her and i specifically mentioned the fact that the president of libya was saying this was a preplanned attack. al-qaeda was saying it was revenge. she continued to say, there were other people saying other things she and the administration continued to say it was a spontaneous demonstration about the video that spun out of control. the question i was asking robert gibbs, if it's spontaneous and about the video then it is an indication that the administration's foreign policy isn't working and also a way of saying al-qaeda is not as strong as the administration would have us believe that. is the question. was there a political spin put on the administration's tail to the political advantage of the president but to the disadvantage in terms of learning the truth of the american people. >> jamie: clearly if they have taken the time would you agree or disagree to take a video of protests. they are caring rpgs. it doesn't seem like a spontaneous protest gone wrong. why did they react

ambassador to the u.n., susan rice, to resign. ing as rice faces mounting criticism for her initial remarks in the days after the assault on our u.s. consulate in libya, saying it was spontaneous. meanwhile hundreds of libyans turning over their weapons at this hour. the libyan army setting up a gun amnesty program. winners of a lottery will receive electronics or cars. >>> and congressman paul ryan in the swing state of ohio tonight. congressman ryan just now wrapping up the speech. he was the guest of honor at the u.s. national sports and alliance banquet in columbus. >>> concern right now among some republicans about the accuracy of some of the presidential polling coming from some of the mainstream media. one claim that some surveys oversample democrats, a trend that could give president obama an edge over governor mitt romney on election day if republican voters don't think they can close the gap. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel reports now from washington. >> go up and down, we have plenty of time. >> history s

i think susan rice was forthcoming with you.t information has come in and therefore the story has changed. in the current political environment it is made out to be this is distortion or as laura said they are vulnerable on this. if you look at the polls, the american people are saying what is going on over in the middle east and now more and more americans saying we are not sure about how president obama's approach to the muslim world has worked and i think the romney campaign therefore things we can gain traction on this issue. >> there is a record, right? there is a record in iraq. >> and the issues in the campaign. >> chris: i want to move to one last question. we have a couple of minutes left. benjamin netanyahu's speech to the u.n. if nothing else will be remembered for his looks like a cartoon bomb drawing the red line. some experts read the speech as actually softening the approach to obama. he said he appreciates the obama administration stance towards iron and seemed to be putting off any possible attack against iran i

who are you going to believe in susan rice or the president of libya? for heaven's sake.been there, she hasn't. there is obviously something else going on here. and the weak response of the obama administration doesn't help where we act like it's just that video and some miles per hour who has been offensive toward people who live in islamic countrys. all that can do is we know from the earlier incidents like all the hooray about the danish cartoon and the book with the satanic verses and -- all this does incite further attack and further anti-americanism. we'll see more from this. one other thing, look, this represents the collapse of the obama sweet talk policy toward islam and toward islamic countrys. it hasn't worked. simple as that. it hasn't worked. he needs to try strength in the foreign policy. not weakness. >> bret: what is the motivation for the statement if we are kind of learning a little bit more and more about the benghazi attack every day? there are some reports that the protest subsided at one point and then the attack happened. we're getting more and more

ambassador susan rice was saying this morning -- i'm sorry, she spoke yesterday. said ambassador chris stevens, what het to see is us packing up shop and totally leaving. >> i think she's totally right. ambassador rice has done a great job, as has secretary clinton. we have to keep sending the message of staying in power, but it doesn't mean we have to be in unfortunate fide or unprotected positions. you're going to take some casualties, but it's a different sort of thing when an ambassador is killed. that suggests the whole mission is in jeopardy. that's what's going on here. people knew ambassador stevens, liked him, admired him. but also when an embassy and ambassador is attacked, ambassador is killed, it suggests the whole u.s. mission is in jeopardy. that's what we have to take on by fortifying these kinds of places and taking care of our top people. not that they are more important than others. >> but they are a symbol. >> they are a symbol. >> do you think we'll ever see those governments cracking down or do they have to walk a fine line, too? >> they have

one other note, peter king, chairman of the house committee, said that ambassador susan rice should resign because of her statement. >>> all right, we want to turn to andrea mitchell, chief foreign correspondent, and andrea how rare is it for the intelligence committee to come out and acknowledge they got it wrong initially, and is it having any effect on the response here? >> reporter: well, first of all it is very, very rare for them to make this type of admission. and politics are clearly in play. the questions are being asked, why did they get it wrong? was it because of a coverup, or was it because they were trying to avoid acknowledging mistakes this close to the election? so there is always a political consequence, and certainly's tonight, the white house is strongly defending susan rice, but she is in the cross-hairs of the political argument and that will be pursued by the republicans who have been hammering away for days saying that the administration deliberately covered up. something the white houses strongly denying. >>> all right, andrea mitchell, thank you, we want to let yo

when susan rice goes out on tv and says this was spontaneous and all because of a movie?at is interesting about susan rice, immediate response, david gregory did not push her. netanyahu came on david gregory was aggressive. but with susan rice she was able to talk about narrative of a film being the cause without any push back. however, i disagree with judy the u.s. media got it wrong. international media has been right from the beginning. they have been looking at this and they called it a terrorist attack pretty fast. >>> judy adore you, but there was a meaning, maybe it came from someplace. maybe if i was the obama administration, our embassy just got attacked on 9/11, and an ambassador was killed. i better blame a mob or movie, put a something over the reality it's an al-qaeda hit on an u.n. ambassador with no security and journal on friday i did a terrific job on death of this ambassador and three other americans. mainstream media would be all over it and hillary clinton and homeland security is being grilled how it happened. it's not happening because there was a me

who programmed susan rice? she only has one superior, that is secretary of state. carney has three superiors, chief of staff and head in sa and president of united states. i think you have a conspiracy to get by the administration and to make sure that no one says there has been attacks during barack obama's tenure. what gets me, the top intelligence committee comes out oh, yeah, this was a preplanned terrorist attack. we spent $60 million for these folks. are you telling me they just learned this? where it gets to the media, back in the nixon days, they would have been all over this from day one following it up. these folks, many of them, not all of them and not all on the left, they are in the tank for barack obama culturally, socially, politically, ideologically and they are part of the same community. as someone mentioned at white house correspondents dinner it's like a justin beiber rally. >> your clarity is repression. [ laughter ] >> i thank you so much. there are not many people. msnbc lost one of the few rationale voices they had over there. i'm glad you a

notice that -- i didn't answer your question, did they hang susan rice out to dry. they did.his is the sort of non-answer avoidance that the obama folks are getting away with because romney hasn't come and put the pieces together. i think ed gillespie is exquisitely sensitive to the fact that they have not been quick enough, they have not been explaining themselves, they've not connected the dots. the question is do they have enough time to execute. >> i'm just looking at the date. >> seven weeks. >> just on the issue of susan rice, what i find entertaining about this is this is -- on one hand it is a serious issue, yet everyone's arguing about making -- scoring political points on this. what happened in libya is something that i think everyone should take heed from what mitt romney did and take it seriously and try and get the answers. this is the issue with susan which is, this is the information that they had, it's not leaking out. i think the question is, what is the right information. the president has a responsibility. we're not talking about scoring political points. h

little bit differently and it is unraveling in benghazi and the question is, why did they send susan rice snanecessary to go o on five shows and say it was spontaneous. and they can't the fbi get into the benghazi site, and, why are we not in benghazi today? i think, president obama is enormously vulnerable on the point, because i think most americans today question whether we are going to be the world's sole superpower, five years from now or maybe three years from now but it is incumbent upon mitt romney to do the same thing in a way that netanyahu did at the u.n. with the chart. you know, the bomb and the 90% red line. he needs to tie it together. in a really visual way. what is the world going to look like and what will we live like if america is not the unquestioned superpower in the world? and how is the vulnerability translating to the lives of every day americans. does it matter? most people want america to be the strongest and want confidence on these issues. >> chris: juan? >> it is obviously taking place in a highly politicd season, in the run-up to the campaign but the timelin

ambassador susan rice today, several words came to mind.nine, nighyev, borderline ignorant. >> most people don't bring rocket-propelled grenades and weapons to a demonstration. that was an act of terror. >> there you have a war hero -- actually, two war heroes there. >> bob: i am going to pass one of them and sort of suggest that some of those words i'd use with him. go back to the point about terror. it is absolutely no question in my mind this was a preplanned terrorist attack. it also is no question in my mind that the movie contributed to demonstrations throughout the muslim world. you can't say protests through indonesia are all terrorists. they are out there demonstrating. if someone did a movie about jesus christ, i'm demonstrate. >> greg: wait. they have, and you didn't. we go to "the last temptation of christ" and talk about bill maher movie and book of mormo mormon. we don't go out there and do it, muslims in america don't go out and do it. if we apologize to maniacs over a film, i am moving to texas where they grow balls op trees

the president of the country and susan rice?> the way these perpetrators acted and moved, i think they are choose will it is no doubt it was preplanned and predetermined. >> our current best assessment based on information present in fact it was a spontanous and not a premed tated. >> brian: she is sping >> chris: clearly it was a coordinated and terrorist attack. the white house can't afford to have terror attack on sovereign american property. >> brian: can they actually expected. she did every single show and every guest after her said you cannot be serious? to quote john mccain most people don't bring rocket grenade and weapons. >> gretchen: the new president of libya hasn't learned how to spin yet. he was warned that these attacks were coming three days prior. >> is that the essence of a new politician who has not learned. >> steve: he's not up for reelection. our friend tony schafer said according to his understanding of the time line, the attack on the consulate started before the riot regarding the movie. that should put

that reason he has not been able to exploit what should be an advantage. >> can you explain why susan rice insisted that the attack on the embassy was the result of a demonstration? >> it is entirely possible -- may i answer? >> i was asking mark. >> we like to hear from everybody. >> if you were actually trying to hide something, you would not send somebody out. you would maintain radio silence -- >> radio silence after an ambassador is murdered? >> can i finish? it may take a little while to figure out exactly what happened. we apparently don't even know for sure -- the fbi has not figured out whether there really was a mob that was exploited, or it was set up by al qaeda or some other group -- we think now it may be some other group -- or not. >> evan? >> i don't think there is any conspiracy here. it does take i think they would dearly love to tell the person who did it, and i think eventually they will. >> you want to read a good book about a cagey chief executive? for a transcript of this broadcast, log on to insidewashington.tv. "ike's bluff," by evan thomas. how would he have handl

susan rice and the house intelligence chair, mike rogers. is all about what happened in foreign pm's this week. you had the ambassador to the u.n., dr. susan rice, to talk about the administration's position on what may have sparked what we saw play out in the middle-east. >> it is intk because jay carney, the white house spokesman said it on friday and ambassador rice backed it up, reinforced it, doubled down on sunday. they say that all of this unrest across the middle-east is all about that video that came out, this obscure video that insults the prophet muhammad, they say it has nothing to do with anti-american feelings and u.s. policies. there are an awful lot of people who question that, but that's the position of the administration. >> shannon: you talked about -- and i know that there is a long ongoing investigation. we will have to wait for the results. whether this was a coordinated, planned attack or a spontaneous protest over this or anything else. >> the one in benghazi that killed four americans. we got two opinions. ambassador

she was responsible, not susan rice.u have security concerns, there are well established bureaucratic procedures to follow. i think the questions ought to be direct at the state department. did the bureau of diplomatic security try to increase its personnel? were they denied for some other reason? if if the answer is there were a lot of libyan security guards for the ambassador, that answer doesn't kit. that may reveal a failing in the overall approach to the region, the idea that you could trust non-americans to protect an american ambassador. that's obviously a mistake. megyn: the state department is expressing its outrage at cnn for coming out with the contents of the so-called diary. cnn is responding saying the level of your outrage speaks volumes about this. >> foreign service officers traditionally have carried around bound notebooks where they take notes of meetings they are in. they jot thousand thoughts and ideas. i'm not sure i would characterize this as a diary. it's not my relations with my family it, a prof

ambassador susan rice calls this a spontaneous event.s call it a pre-planned attack to coincide with the 9/11 anniversary. the state department said it won't answer any more questions on libya. it said go talk to the department of justice. but the department of justice don't answer any questions either. >> given ambassador rice is talking in public about it and referring us to the fbi, can we ask you questions about the circumstances of the attack? if it's fair for the am bar doer to discuss it it should be fair in this room are. >> ambassador rice outranges me as does my own boss. she is often at liberty to say more than i am and i guess that will continue to be the case. what i will say, though, is that ambassador rice in her comments on every network over the weekend was very clear, very precise about our initial assessment of what happened is. this was not just her assessment. it was also an assessment that you heard in comments coming from the intelligence community, in comebts coming from the -- in comment coming from the white hou