reporter: susan stenberg, lisa natalie, so good to have both of you with us. at a book. year. these women you'vehosen to write about, they are women we are familiar with today. u remind us what extraordinary uphill climb they had. >> these women needed a book together to celebrate their work with each other. also, how they helped npr launch. of course, it had not launched. it would not have without them. porter: what was it that your you to them? so many people think they know them. we hear their voices and we have seen them. what drew you to this? >> that's exactly it. i knew their names. i've been following them for years. i did not know where they had come from. that's why i love writing books. i love practicing journalism. writing books, you can dig deeper and find out the why. what really surprised me is the troubles that women faced. new from my mother that the economics for women were not always equitable. i certainly did not realize that there was a time when women weren't allowed to be on the air or even have a byline in the newspaper. as a researcher and a writ

of the founding mothers of npr, author and journalist lisa natalie profiles for journalists, susan stenberg, wilma wertheimer, need dana totenberg and cokie roberts is recording help establish national public radio area sunday at 9 pm eastern on "after words", patrick keith talked about his empire of pain , the secret history of the fackler family which looks at the families wealth from pharmaceuticals such as valium and oxycontin. sunday at 10 pm eastern, former president george w. bush talked about his paintings of immigrants and their journeys to america in his book out of many one. workers of america's immigrants. watch tv this weekend on c-span2. >> members of the facebook oversight board with transit he the board's ruling to hold the man onpresidential discussedfree-speech and public comments in the horse decision-making . this is 30 minutes . >> welcome to axios's special event, i'm sarah fisher, media reporterfor axios . along with our audiences on axios.com you can join the conversation by using the hashtag axios events but over the next 30 minutes i'll be joined by mike allen as w