up next author susan stessin cohn talks about the slave experience and the surrounding river valley. >> during the last few years i have done talks are all different age groups, and they always talk about that when they went to school they were told that the ruling no slaves in the north. and everyone come when you pick up a book or talk to someone, they carried the story of slavery and slavery ending with the civil war. and people forget that slaves lived and were part of the economic system of new york, and the north, especially new york which was a hub for slavery. if you wanted to take a look at the hudson river valley in the early to mid 18th century you would see a lot of dutch farmers here, slave labor was predominate for the dutch farmers and the huguenots. and as far as i know when i think when we are looking at households, most families that had enslaved people living in their household had between one and three. obviously the big manners, livingston phillips, morrissey anna i think it was. they had these big manners where they may be somewhere between 20-40 enslaved people