more on the speech from susan sullivan on student cheating. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we're joined this morning by marilyn geewax, a senior business editor from npr. the jobless number has dropped to a. 8.1%. guest: most economists expected the economy created about 125,000 jobs. that's what people thought. then the thought maybe it was more like 150,000. the reality is it is 96,000. it is not far from where people were thinking it was but it is still disappointing because it is down. host: 1 prie-dieu was from adp, 150,000 -- one preview was from adp, 150,000. guest: adp is measuring private sector employment. they process perils and keep a watch on what people are paying -- they processed payrolls. estimates can be wrong. it is a big economy. scores of millions of people go to work every day. it is hard to get exact measurements. this number is an estimate that they will probably revise later. with more than 12 million unemployed, this is a slow number of jobs growth. what we're averaging this year -- it is amazing how trapped in a small range we are. unemploym