>> i just have a picture. >> susan williams, a mother of four, meets with an undercover detective posingsin for hire. the intended target, susan's estranged husband peter williams. who runs a successful business installing fences and delivering dumpsters. >> guess you cut yourself out of that picture? >> i did. >> she gives him that photo. in her mind, the murder's as good as happened. and she took such care to write the information on the back and explain it to the detective. >> so what's on the back here? >> i just put his birth date. >> she wrote down more information than he asked her for. right down to the color of the car he drives to his date of birth. >> but authorities are hesitant to charge susan with any crime until they say money changing hands. >> all right. so i should give you some money, right? >> yes. >> and then -- >> hundreds, huh? one, two, three, four, five -- >> you wanted ones? >> no. are they real? are they dry yet? all right. >> the detectives are told to count the money so you can hear it in case the video's not working. >> it's not going to be done obviously to

. >> most of what you hear, comes out of susan williams' mouth. >> if it's an accident, i'd love it. >> but as labella, a former detective sits through the trial and watches susan on tape, he has second thoughts about his role in the case. >> i wanted to be a cop. >> so did i. everybody does, right? >> my brother's an aviation policeman. >> i swear to god, god is my judge. if i knew that she had family on the job, new york city cops, i wouldn't be sitting here telling you this story today. i would have went to her father. i would have went to her brother and said look, cop to cop your sister, your daughter is looking to do something. you got to talk to her. but i never knew. >> in november 2010 susan is convicted of conspireing to murder her husband as well as possession of a forged instrument for falsifying the life insurance document. >> it's a shame. one minute you're saying i do, and it's beautiful. one day you wake up and it goes to [ bleep ]. >> he's not going to be living anymore. >> right. >> do people ignore the fact that they're being taped in these situations? i don't know

. >> most of what you hear, comes out of susan williams' mouth. >> if it's an accident, i'd love it. >> but as labella, a former detective sits through the trial and watches susan on tape, he has second thoughts about his role in the case. >> i wanted to be a cop. >> so did i. everybody does, right? >> my brother's an aviation policeman. >> i swear to god, god is my judge. if i knew that she had family on the job, new york city cops, i wouldn't be sitting here telling you this story today. i would have went to her father. i would have went to her brother and said look, cop to cop your sister, your daughter is looking to do something. you got to talk to her. but i never knew. >> in november 2010 susan is convicted of conspireing to murder her husband as well as possession of a forged instrument for falsifying the life insurance document. >> it's a shame. one minute you're saying i do, and it's beautiful. one day you wake up and it goes to [ bleep ]. >> he's not going to be living anymore. >> right. >> do people ignore the fact that they're being taped in these situations? i don't know

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with me is' lease, susan del percio, and msnbc contributor jimmy williams.ere. elise, sarah palin having rallied the faith of the at the gathering of the conservatives in washington, she went right after president obama. let's take a listen. >> yes, she did. >> and background checks i guess to learn more about a person's thinking and associations and intentions. more background checks. dandy idea, mr. president. should have started with yours. >> so that may work with the right but there are a lot of reasons who said that the gop brand needs to be improved. do you think this kind of rhetoric is going to help on that front? >> well, i think you can always count on sarah palin for some good red meat and that's what we're seeing at cpac. i think the thing to remember about this gathering is that there are all kinds of colorful characters all the time. and some of the panels, some of the speeches are going to be more substantive than the others, but in terms of the rebranding of the gop, that isn't with wha this event is about. this is about the faithful remindi

susan. >> next week sudden death and secret marriages mark the tenure of the first ladies who served in the role between 1841 and 1845. anna harrison's husband william henry harrison dies because of complications from a cold he catches during his inaugural speech. and first lady harrison never steps inside the white house. then for the first time in our country's history, a vice president and his wife assume the office of president and role of first lady. but again, 17 months later, death comes to the white house, as first lady la tisha tyler, beset by health problems, passes away. now entering into the picture julia gardner-tyler of new york will tell the story of the may-december romance that leads the 54-year-old president and his 24-year-old bride to get secretly married in new york to avoid the objection of his hildren. ve on c-span and c-span3 and cspan.org. our website has more about the first ladies including a special section welcome to the white house, produced by our partner white house historical association, which chronicles life in the executive mansion during the tenure of each of the first ladies. and with the association offering sp