nick: susi snyder, does this francesca: the danger of escalation? do you think?: it absolutely does increase the danger level. anytime you start moving nuclear weapons around, there are nuclear risks. and now they are starting to add new actors into the decision , making a process that opens the door to miscommunication. there are safety issues. it introduces the possibility of further use of nuclear weapons, further use of the weapons, which would be catastrophic, or where they are targeted. nick: samuel, just that mention of the word nuclear makes everybody sit up and take notice. and the president is ramping up that threat level, using uncertainty toward he would presume to be his advantage. guest: that has been a long-standing russian policy that dates back long before this conflict. we saw that the russians used the threat of nuclear weapons to deter what western arms shipments to ukraine, especially the movement of tanks and fighter jets. that field as a deterrent. so now he is basically ratcheting up the threat as ukraine continues one year into the war. n

while it's now speak to susie snyder, who's program coordinator at the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons, she is joining us live from o trex in the netherlands. susie, thank you very much for being with us on al jazeera, present. put in says this move, this plan would not violate nuclear non proliferation agreements and compared it to, to the u. s. stationing it's weapons in europe. what is your reaction 1st to this announcement by russia, and what are the implications of russia storing tactical nuclear weapons in bellows? this movement is additionally destabilizing. it increases the risk of the use of nuclear weapons by adding more actors who might potentially have the ability to drop nuclear bombs. it creates a potential for, for chaos and miscommunication. and that's a risky scenario at the best of times. and a time of conflict, it's extremely destabilizing and very dangerous. but he said, susie that russia would retain control of the weapons. but it would be indeed the 1st time since the mid 19 ninety's at moscow will have basses. nuclear bay says nuclear arms are eit

emphasize without violating our international obligations on the non proliferation of nuclear weapons. susie snyder is the program coordinator, the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons. she says the agreement between russia and belarus could have catastrophic consequences. it increases the risk of the use of nuclear weapons by adding more actors who might potentially have the ability to drop nuclear bomb. it creates a potential for, for chaos and miscommunication. and that's a risky scenario at the best of time. and a time of conflict, i think, is really stabilizing very well. these weapons are, if used would be, would have results similar or greater than what we saw in hiroshi and nagasaki in 1945 there. hugely, they can cause huge catastrophic harm. and there is no recovery from any health care system they could deal with that type of catastrophe. it doesn't matter. the size of the weapon, the long term consequences are also something that we just don't have the capacity to cope with food. it's highly problematic. the nonproliferation treaty is not explicitly say you cannot store wea

now join me in moscow is a pebble american house who's defense, a military analyst and utrecht. susie snyder is join us program coordinator at the campaign international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons and in london, somebody romani who is an associate fellow at the roll. united services institute. welcome to all of you. probably if i could start with you in moscow, say repeat and says this is in response to a long standing request for the bell resume needle. it sounds like a shank safe to say there's more to it than that. orchestra has been for some time publicly. one thing that he made a grave mistake in the 90s. why? and here re, patrick, the former soviet nuclear weapons from the territory of bowers to rush in the turn numerous into a new, queer state that if he were to retain, he said these weapons and to our roots would be better off. and he was asking moscow to return some weapons bag and woe like now russia sort of agreed. and this is more politico of course bargaining thing of the military significance is there is of course military significance. but this is primarily political

the un nuclear watchdog chief is expected to assess the damage later this week. susie snyder is the program coordinator at the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons. she says the agreement between russia and bela roost could have catastrophic consequences. it increases the risk of the use of nuclear weapons by adding more actors who might potentially have the ability to drop nuclear bomb. it creates a potential for forecasts and miscommunication and that's a risky scenario at the best of times. and a time of conflict, i think is really stabilizing and very these weapons are, if used would be, would have results similar or greater than what we saw in russia and nagasaki in 1945 there. hugely, they can cause huge catastrophic harm. and there is no recovery from any health care system they could deal with that type of catastrophe. it doesn't matter. the size of the weapon, the long term consequences are also something that we just don't have the capacity to cope with. it's highly problematic. the nonproliferation treaty is not explicitly say you cannot store weapons in another coun