it is there any way you could do that for susie wildes?t of all i'm not sure there's any way he could do that for anyone at this point. trump has litigated extensively, the question of both executive privilege, and attorney client privilege. every time he is litigated those questions, including with people who served him at very senior levels in the white house, up to and through mark meadows, those arguments have failed. susie wildes, on the other hand, has only served as trump's campaign aide in as a pack representative at the time. she has never served him in an official capacity, certainly, trump is not working in an official capacity right now i do not think there are any defenses that he could raise with respect to privileges or immunities that would shield her from having to testify. alex at this point. >> okay that makes sense. let's get to another expert, this is from jackie's reporting, several authorities have asked witnesses extensively questions about activities at bedminster, including how the documents were packed, sent, and

that would be the united states of america versus susie wildes. >> that is some heavy stuff, i don'tt side ever. glenn, you are very good at reading the tea leaves, so, the new york times is reporting that subpoenas are still going out in jack smith's documents case, subpoenas from the miami grand jury, the grand jury that indicted donald trump. what do you make of this? >> what i make of this is, that jacks mitt is just getting warmed up, it seems like he is intent on, investigating all of the potential crimes, not only of donald, trump but anybody else down at mar-a-lago, anybody else in florida who may have been involved in assisting, facilitating, or who may be covering, up who may be an accessory after the fact to donald trump's, crimes and in the big investigations, jonathan, it is pretty usual that we will ask the grand jury to vote out one indictment, perhaps one or two defendants, and a limited number of charges, but we will continue to investigate in the grand jury, any other crimes about which we have information, and then ask the grand jury to return a subsequent, or what

that person turned out to be susie wildes, one of the top advisers to trump's presidential campaign.rom cnn suggests that susie wildes has already talked with investigators multiple times. special counsel jack smith's investigation into trump's alleged mishandling of classified documents has already led to criminal charges against the former president. but it appears the investigators are still investigating. according to reporting from the new york times, the federal grand jury in miami has continuing to look into different pieces of the case. in just the last few days, they've issued new subpoenas to several individuals connected to the inquiry. and that is not all. the special counsel's other probe, the one looking into overturning the 2020 election, is also moving right along. last week, the new york times reported that a former trump campaign official named mike roman, who tried to hand deliver fake elector votes to then vice president, mike pence, was cooperating with investigators. while according to new reporting from cnn, that guy is not working with investigators after he e

. >> starting with our campaign chairman susie wildes, who is really the best. really the best in the business. >> what we know about trump ain't susie wildes, and wide to big deal that you talking to jacques mid. >> it seems that susie wildes has spoken with investigators several times, it is earth shattering news. >> when all in starts now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes, we are off today in a pair of 63 -- supreme courts to conservatives supermajority struck down president biden's student loan forgiveness plan, and then ruled in favor of a colorado web designer who wants the legal right to refuse service to gay patrons. now, i'm not a lawyer, but even a layman can tell that both these rulings were legally dubious in a way i will explain in a moment. there is something fundamentally broken here that is on display, i think it is worth taking some time to get into. the archetypical example of judgment, right? the one that we all think of when we think of judging goes back to biblical history, all the way back to the judgment of sullivan. he is a kin

the new york times says the pac represented with susie wildes.ple briefed on the matter first reported by abc news. at the same time the new york post reports that while says a top post in a lobbying firm serving chinese entity that supposedly pose a national security threat and help china promote human rights abuses. -- millions of dollars have been taken from chinese companies. wildes has not responded to requests for comment. joe that was one of the big questions. who was donald trump showing these classified documents to. we have an audiotape this week where we hear voices. we know some people were ghostwriter's for mark meadows memoir. talking an interview with donald trump when he waved around documents he described as being from the department of defense. what is your take on this revelation perhaps to chinese business? chinese entities? . >> the saying is it is not somebody who is a minor player on his campaign. or a minor player that works for him in the white house. it is someone who has been a significant force in american politics for

three current trump staffers, susie wildes, liz harrington, a martyr girl martin, identifies the scene documents. it could not be potential witnesses against him. a pre-trial hearing is set for july 14th 14th in florida, but his co-dependent in l.a., we'll knock a, has not yet been arraigned. two former trump campaign insiders, rudy giuliani and michael roman, have reportedly given voluntary interviews with doj prosecutors investigating the 2020 fake electors scheme. one former trump white house insider personally witnessed trump mishandling government documents. >> i watched him show documents to people of mar-a-lago on the dining room patio. he has no respect for classified information, never dead. very difficult to get a security clearance. i think if people, they miss what's in the reads, obviously, but to be showing it to people who haven't gone through the extreme betting that you go through to get a clearance, it's a disservice to the contrary but also puts people in danger, potentially. joining me now, luke broadwater, pulitzer prize-winning congressional reporter with the new

. >> abc news is reporting that susie wildes, and influential a pro quicken strategist and top trumpified in jackson's indictment as the person that trump display declassify map to. cnn is reporting she spent several times with prosecutors. nbc news hasn't independently confirmed this, but barbara, that sounds like she is cooperating? >> yes. i don't know if she is, the person who is identified there as his representative, but i think it is safe to say that's not only is she cooperating, but also the people who were in the room at bedminster are cooperating. if you look at the language of the indictment, they don't just say he said these things, they say he showed them documents. you need a witness to tell you that he showed some documents. so, these clearly are witnesses, someone who was in the room, who can describe what happened. i think one thing that's really important to keep in mind is at trial, a cheery for just have the benefit of hearing the recording at bedminster. we'll hear from lee are, live witnesses who were there. so the idea that this is just bravado and it wasn't e

about bedminster and the writing of a book, and journalists being present, even aipac person like susie wildesd of stuff we think jack smith would have beaten already? >> he might. katie, it could be valuable. as what you know, it's for a four b evidence. evidence of the persons common scheme or plan. even if he doesn't charge it, you can use that as evidence to show that trump is very reckless on he handles classified information. so, every piece of evidence brings value. >> yeah, in that evidentiary rule would allow the prosecution to basically say it wasn't a mistake, right? it wasn't an accident or mistake on the part of trump. it's part of what he does. it's a part of his motive and his modus operandi. barbara mcquade, as always, i appreciate you being here. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you, katie. >> coming up next, abortion desert. health care workers are warning the accelerating abortion bans could turn the southeast united states into an abortion desert, cutting off critical health care for millions of women. how activists are keeping up the fight as we enter year t

susie wildes, leading advisor to trump's campaign, effectively running as their campaign as presidenthas met with doj investigators multiple times. i wonder what that signals to you? >> well, it's pretty obvious. she some testimony to get. what it really underscores for the legal political link is the people who are really close to him, including evan corcoran, who is still involved, giuliani is on the assist because it was a pay. we are talking about all the self inflicted wounds by trump. now, the people are running in. it was really telling to me last week, alicia, that the after the deputy in the elections committee that had been in charge of the false electors testified, that is when his boss and then, rudy giuliani came in. is it too late? can we maybe give information? even as they are the last vestige of loyalist to trump, they are also becoming the last witnesses for smith. that is quite a double roll. just generally on the political legal count, it seems to me and has seemed for a while, he is toast, legally. but he has this one strange escape route. if he can win as a repub