. >>> emily sussman and rod wheeler former washington, d.c.e detective and rod, let me start with you. you spent a lot of time in ferguson. how do you think this issue is being viewed by people on the ground there? can mccullough give this a fair as assessment in my mind? >> my opinion talking to number of people on the ground in the city of ferguson as well as people in st. louis county, let me say this, the tensions are high there. the tensions remain high there. peel there are really, they don't like the police chief. we know that. but as far as mccullough is concerned, the facts are the facts. we have to give this guy the opportunity to at least do thinks job. and i honestly believe if the people of ferguson and those other surrounding counts if they elected to this guy to the done, he needs to be afforded opportunity to do his job. if they don't like that they don't need to vote for him. it is important real quickly, martha, this prosecutor was elected four times before. if you don't like the guy but don't vote for him. but here is the re