this type of suture here costs about $200.d if you look at even devices like -- this is a needle that's used for biopsies. if there's a concern of a tumor, they would use a needle like this. this is going to cost about $800. it's important to keep in mind, if you ask theers of a device -- manufacturers of a device like this why so much money, they'll say it took years to develop it. search and develop cost were needed and guaranteeing the effectiveness of the needle costs money, as well. maybe something you didn't know -- when you look at a hospital bill, it's not just the cost of splice. there are admin-- supplies. there are administrative costs. the costs of covering people who don't have insurance or can't pay. that's built into these costs, as well. keep in mind whether or not insurance pays, those high costs, they're eventually going to be passed on to you, to me, to everybody. joining subcommittee one of our favorite guests, andrew rubin from the nyu medical center. he oversees 1,400 doctors and a budget of $800 million.